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Old 03-02-2008, 09:03 AM   #1
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Default official 9-11 story continues to unravel...

Official 9-11 Story Continues to Unravel...

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Today in America we are witness to a great unraveling, the likes of which we have never seen before. For many months now the official narrative about the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on America has been coming apart, and I mean: at the seams. The official story about that terrible day is disintegrating. The trend shows no sign of abating and in recent weeks it even appears to have accelerated. At the present rate, soon there will be nothing left of the official version of events but a discordant echo and a series of extremely rude after shocks.

Is our nation prepared to face those rude shocks?

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Old 03-02-2008, 09:04 AM   #2
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My article has a typo in the paragraph about Steven Jones. The phrase "the announcement went reported in the US media" should read "the announcement went UNreported in the US media"
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:13 AM   #3
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Good work, Mark.

Amazing how many people continue to believe the bullsh*t story from the WH in spite of the facts.
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Only thing I got out of this was: the CIA is out of control.
NEWSFLASH: everybody in the Fed Govt knows this.
Other NEWSFLASH: so is the DoD, the FBI, the SS, the State Dept and the IRS.
But given how pathetic our amateur politicos are, maybe its for the best.

9/11 is transmogrifying into the "grassy knoll" of this generation.
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Nothing like bad fiction to bore the senses.
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Wow. I didn't know there were black helicopters circling the WTC on 9-11 or that space aliens were directing planes directly into the buildings! I guess I need to listen to George Norey more often. I'm so out of touch.
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Good work, Mark.

Amazing how many people continue to believe the bullsh*t story from the WH in spite of the facts.
You can't possibly be serious.
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It amazes me that Kean and Hamilton, both co-chairs of the 911 Commission would come out in the way that they have and in essense, tell America that the report is incomplete and was obstructed at several levels along the way... And there be absolutely no news coverage about it... And when these facts are brought up to otherwise intelligent people, they completely dismiss it without so much as considering the implications of it.

Apparently the only thing that's real to Americans is Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, and whatever else the media is willing to give scrutiny to.

I mean, I get that people just don't want to believe in conspiracy theories out of hand. That's smart. But what I don't get is why people have just completely turned off their brains to the subject entirely, rather than raising an eyebrow when these key figures start throwing up red flags. I just can't understand it.

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It amazes me that Kean and Hamilton, both co-chairs of the 911 Commission would come out in the way that they have and in essense, tell America that the report is incomplete and was obstructed at several levels along the way... And there be absolutely no news coverage about it... And when these facts are brought up to otherwise intelligent people, they completely dismiss it without so much as considering the implications of it.

Apparently the only thing that's real to Americans is Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, and whatever else the media is willing to give scrutiny to.

I mean, I get that people just don't want to believe in conspiracy theories out of hand. That's smart. But what I don't get is why people have just completely turned off their brains to the subject entirely, rather than raising an eyebrow when these key figures start throwing up red flags. I just can't understand it.
Here's my problem with it.

I truely believe our government knew something was going to happen and they were extremely negligent, allowing something to happen that was ultimately preventable.

But you got Gaff here, who has been crowing about mini-nukes and an inside job and all that...sorry, no way I'm buying that...especially with a lack of credible evidence. You're talking about a conspiracy of such epic proportions it defies logic.
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Good work, Mark.

Amazing how many people continue to believe the bullsh*t story from the WH in spite of the facts.
you 2 should just %uck and get it over with ...
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Here's my problem with it.

I truely believe our government knew something was going to happen and they were extremely negligent, allowing something to happen that was ultimately preventable.

But you got Gaff here, who has been crowing about mini-nukes and an inside job and all that...sorry, no way I'm buying that...especially with a lack of credible evidence. You're talking about a conspiracy of such epic proportions it defies logic.

I don't know anything about mini-nukes. But what I just saw was people knee jerking to a post that is not only convincingly written, but also well sourced with a string of references -- and not one person bothers to challenge a single point of the story.

What difference does Gaff's theory about mini nikes make if the bostruction is true (and it appears that it is) that there was so much obstruction in the 911 investigation to make the conclusions meaningless?

Here we have the greatest unsolved mystery in the history of the united states, and people aren't willing to so much as question whether we need to get to the bottom of it. And why? Because they disagree with a guy on a theory about what might have happened? So how does that work? "I disagree with your theory, and therefore, it doesn't matter that there was so much obstruction in the 911 investigation to make the two lead co-chairs pretty much admit the entire thing was a sham. What's going on with Prince Harry?"

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I don't know anything about mini-nukes. But what I just saw was people knee jerking to a post that is not only convincingly written, but also well sourced with a string of references -- and not one person bothers to challenge a single point of the story.

What difference does Gaff's theory about mini nikes make if it's true (and it appears that it is) that there was so much obstruction in the 911 investigation to make the conclusions meaningless?

Here we have the greatest unsolved mystery in the history of the united states, and people aren't willing to so much as question whether we need to get to the bottom of it. And why? Because they disagree with a guy on a theory about what might have happened? So how does that work? "I disagree with your theory, and therefore, it doesn't matter that there was so much obstruction in the 911 investigation to make the two lead co-chairs pretty much admit the entire thing was a sham. What's going on with Prince Harry?"
Oh geeezus!! Talk about drinking the Net airhead, conspiracy dreamers koolaid.

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Hmm... That came out wrong. I meant the obstruction appears that it's true. I don't know anything about Mini nukes. Literally nothing.
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But you kind of prove my point... Here we have the biggest crime ever committed on US soil, and yu sho abolutely zero intellectual curiosity about any of the very legitimate questions raised by the obstruction of the investigation into it.
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Hmm... That came out wrong. I meant the obstruction appears that it's true. I don't know anything about Mini nukes. Literally nothing.
That's good to know and I agree there is every possibility of some type of coverup of the actual events for whatever purpose.
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But you kind of prove my point... Here we have the biggest crime ever committed on US soil, and yu sho abolutely zero intellectual curiosity about any of the very legitimate questions raised by the obstruction of the investigation into it.
You're wrong, I just don't trade conversation with someone who thinks we shot mininukes into the Trade Center buildings.
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if it's true (and it appears that it is) that there was so much obstruction in the 911 investigation to make the conclusions meaningless?
There's the flaw in your thinking right there, TJ. All the obstruction in the 911 investigation is simple.

The incident happened on George Bush's watch and the Republicans don't want to take the official blame for what happened. Likewise, a lot of the preparation for 9-11 took place (and the roadblocks to effectively thwarting the mission took place) on Bill Clinton's watch and the Democrats don't want to take the official blame for what happened either. So, what results is a commission where both sides care more about covering their own asses than getting at any actual truth.

It's really no more complicated than that. There doesn't need to be some evil conspiracy behind all this to believe there would be obstructionism. All you need are two political parties that, first and foremost, want to avoid getting blamed by the electorate.

In fact, I know of no bi-partisan commission ever assembled by Congress that has ever concluded otherwise than that neither the Democrats or the Republicans are to be blamed. It's just politics as usual.

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You're wrong, I just don't trade conversation with someone who thinks we shot mininukes into the Trade Center buildings.

I can understand that. But do you have any theories of your own on why there was molten metal at the heart of the carnage for weeks after the fact? I don't know what a mini-nuke even is. But I do know that jet fuel isn't going to cause molten metal, let alone a perpetual molten metal that lasts for weeks on end.

So what would cause such a thing? Beats me. I don't have the bredth of knowledge to answer such a question. As a citizen curious about this aspect, where in the 911 report can I go to get an answer on this? I just want to go where the evidence leads. Don't you?

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like if someone who knows something about science explained those two would even understand ....
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I can understand that. But do you have any theories of your own on why there was molten metal at the heart of the carnage for weeks after the fact? I don't know what a mini-nuke even is. But I do know that jet fuel isn't going to cause molten metal, let alone a perpetual molten metal that lasts for weeks on end.

So what would cause such a thing? Beats me. I don't have the bredth of knowledge to answer such a question. As a citizen curious about this aspect, where in the 911 report can I go to get an answer on this?
The heart of carnage was basically where the impacts occurred. Iron workers, Boilermakers and Pipefitters all went into the rubble cutting structural steel with oxygen lances and cutting torches looking for survivors. Eutectic reaction from various possible sources is one possibilty, mininukes are not.
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The heart of carnage was basically where the impacts occurred. Iron workers, Boilermakers and Pipefitters all went into the rubble cutting structural steel with oxygen lances and cutting torches looking for survivors. Eutectic reaction from various possible sources is one possibilty, mininukes are not.
/agree and there is this thing called friction from during the fall of the towers their own friction can make molten steel .... jeez the 9/11 nuts are to simple try harder ..... you should see these fools in cincinnati that do weekly protest calling them selfs cincy911 for truth or some $hit .... ill post the youtube stuff with them later ... and they are actually talking about molten metal ... and listen to these morons .... it like listing to little kids/teenagers trying to get you to think wrestling is real or some crap like that .... maybe you 911 nuts should read/watch the guys from popular mechanics vs the loose change kids ... and watch your heroes fold like a house of cards under the pressure of facts and science ...

if anyone with a brain in the media / science world found fact supporting they would be everywhere and you dont see it ..... you see 21 year old punks with loose change and crap like Michael Moore

and i like mysteries there just aint one here ....
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Was there?
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Was there?

This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. This has been pretty well documented. There are plenty of scientists who have asked questions about this. I guess they're just supposed to accept Beerslug's explination of it, rather than expect any sort of official review of the questions that these scientists have.

The worst crime ever committed on American soil, and Americans have completely turned their brains off to the permeating questions that still remain years after the fact. And here we have the two co-chairs literally telling us that the thing was a sham, and people aren't the least bit interested in seeing any accountability over the matter. It just blows my mind.
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What is the documentation for "molten" metal weeks after 9/11?

Dig a little, and you'll find it's really quite sparse and a lot of hearsay.
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This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. This has been pretty well documented. There are plenty of scientists who have asked questions about this. I guess they're just supposed to accept Beerslug's explination of it, rather than expect any sort of official review of the questions that these scientists have.

The worst crime ever committed on American soil, and Americans have completely turned their brains off to the permeating questions that still remain years after the fact. And here we have the two co-chairs literally telling us that the thing was a sham, and people aren't the least bit interested in seeing any accountability over the matter. It just blows my mind.
What scientists? I've never seen any proof (pictures or "scientists") pointing out piles of molten metal. There were slag piles (pockets) that came from were I told you they did.
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