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Old 02-17-2008, 05:09 PM   #1
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:54 PM   #4
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Nah...I don't like the limelight...I wouldn't want to be First Lady!
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It sucked from Day One. The only redeeming thing will be if I can watch the Democrats throw Her Highness overboard before the general election. She won't even be able to claim that the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy did her in because this was her own party that rejected her.

But I'm not ready to give Oprah Obama the nomination just yet. The Clintons are as dirty as earthworms in a manure farm and there's nothing I wouldn't put past them in their quest for power.

Oh, and Sassy, you'd make a fine First Lady!
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WTF are you talking about?! Clintons ... dirty?!

I'm with Bill Maher on this one: When people hate Hillary Clinton, or demonize her as "dirty," it says more about that person than it does about Hillary. You do realize that the budget-busting 7-year Whitewater special counsel found N O T H I N G, don't you? They looked EVERYwhere, and found nothing more than one unusualy profitable commodities trade. That's it.

No, when it comes to dirty tricks, the GOP makes the Clintons look like amateurs. The phrase "Dirty Tricks" originated with Nixon's Plumbers, Colson, Liddy, Hunt, Segreti ... and Karl Rove learned his robo-calling, McCain-libelling dirty tricks at the foot of Donald Segreti in the 1970s. Rove was actually mentioned - however briefly - in the Watergate hearings.


No, the real dirty tricks in the past decade have been waged against Kerry, McCain (in 2000 primaries), and by SCOTUS on Gore and the voters of Florida. But .... if you have some beef, TexanBob, and I mean some real B E E F, I'll listen. But I think I've heard most everything about Hillary and Bill, and "dirty tricksters" is not an accurate description of either one.
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WTF are you talking about?! Clintons ... dirty?!

I'm with Bill Maher on this one: When people hate Hillary Clinton, or demonize her as "dirty," it says more about that person than it does about Hillary. You do realize that the budget-busting 7-year Whitewater special counsel found N O T H I N G, don't you? They looked EVERYwhere, and found nothing more than one unusualy profitable commodities trade. That's it.

No, when it comes to dirty tricks, the GOP makes the Clintons look like amateurs. The phrase "Dirty Tricks" originated with Nixon's Plumbers, Colson, Liddy, Hunt, Segreti ... and Karl Rove learned his robo-calling, McCain-libelling dirty tricks at the foot of Donald Segreti in the 1970s. Rove was actually mentioned - however briefly - in the Watergate hearings.


No, the real dirty tricks in the past decade have been waged against Kerry, McCain (in 2000 primaries), and by SCOTUS on Gore and the voters of Florida. But .... if you have some beef, TexanBob, and I mean some real B E E F, I'll listen. But I think I've heard most everything about Hillary and Bill, and "dirty tricksters" is not an accurate description of either one.
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We are talking about Clinton who is considering lawsuits to include the Michigan and Florida delegats, taking a page from the GOP I think. I firmly believe that all politicians are dirty in some shape or matter. You have to almost figure out who is the least dirty.
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We are talking about Clinton who is considering lawsuits to include the Michigan and Florida delegats, taking a page from the GOP I think. I firmly believe that all politicians are dirty in some shape or matter. You have to almost figure out who is the least dirty.
Fair enough , so how are the Clintons dirty ?
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Oh, gee, let's start with 700+ FBI files they took and probably xeroxed for their own political purposes.

Does Terry Lensner ring a bell?

The "Nuts and Sluts" defense they were going to hit Monica with until she provided the semen-stained dress.

Billy Dale ring a bell?

The "Bimbo Eruption" team.

The Vince Foster cover-up.

The Ron Brown cover-up.

Oh, and how about bringing surrogates out to call Obama a junkie and a slumlord? If any Republican tried that, they'd immediately be slammed as a racist.

The media went ape over a 30-year-old DWI when it was a Republican but when one of Hillary's key operatives, Sidney Blumenthal, is busted for DWI the night before the New Hampshire Primary, there's a news blackout on it for five days. Who do you think had the juice to pull that off?

Of course, BroncoBuff's head is so far up Hillary's ass that none of this will register with him but if he can't see how the Clintons have tried to bully everyone who has ever tried to get in their way, he's just in denial.
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Case in point regarding Terry Lenzner...

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WTF are you talking about?! Clintons ... dirty?!

I'm with Bill Maher on this one: When people hate Hillary Clinton, or demonize her as "dirty," it says more about that person than it does about Hillary.
Especially when the guy pointing his finger is a Bush supporter.

That makes it even more comical.
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Oh, gee, let's start with 700+ FBI files they took and probably xeroxed for their own political purposes.
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Does Terry Lensner ring a bell?

The "Nuts and Sluts" defense they were going to hit Monica with until she provided the semen-stained dress.

Billy Dale ring a bell?

The "Bimbo Eruption" team.

The Vince Foster cover-up.

The Ron Brown cover-up.

Oh, and how about bringing surrogates out to call Obama a junkie and a slumlord? If any Republican tried that, they'd immediately be slammed as a racist.

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I guess I have my head up Hillrys ass also , cause all of those things except for Monica was a Republican wet dream that never came true
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Oh, gee, let's start with 700+ FBI files they took and probably xeroxed for their own political purposes.

Does Terry Lensner ring a bell?

The "Nuts and Sluts" defense they were going to hit Monica with until she provided the semen-stained dress.

Billy Dale ring a bell?

The "Bimbo Eruption" team.

The Vince Foster cover-up.

The Ron Brown cover-up.
All part of the same bullsh*t fishing expedition.

Face it - if there was any truth or substance to any of these allegations then you guys wouldn't have had to settle for a blowjob scandal in your hunt for grounds for impeachment.

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The media went ape over a 30-year-old DWI...


Went "ape?"

The media made the story go away and the court-appointed pinhead never had to answer any questions about it again (just like his cocaine use.)
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WTF are you talking about?! Clintons ... dirty?!

I'm with Bill Maher on this one: When people hate Hillary Clinton, or demonize her as "dirty," it says more about that person than it does about Hillary. You do realize that the budget-busting 7-year Whitewater special counsel found N O T H I N G, don't you? They looked EVERYwhere, and found nothing more than one unusualy profitable commodities trade. That's it.

No, when it comes to dirty tricks, the GOP makes the Clintons look like amateurs. The phrase "Dirty Tricks" originated with Nixon's Plumbers, Colson, Liddy, Hunt, Segreti ... and Karl Rove learned his robo-calling, McCain-libelling dirty tricks at the foot of Donald Segreti in the 1970s. Rove was actually mentioned - however briefly - in the Watergate hearings.


No, the real dirty tricks in the past decade have been waged against Kerry, McCain (in 2000 primaries), and by SCOTUS on Gore and the voters of Florida. But .... if you have some beef, TexanBob, and I mean some real B E E F, I'll listen. But I think I've heard most everything about Hillary and Bill, and "dirty tricksters" is not an accurate description of either one.
Whitewater was a hit job, and there's been a million b.s. hatchet jobs against the Clintons, but those aren't what most are talking about when they are saying she/they fight dirty.

A recent example would be when the DNC came down hard on MI and FL, and she was asked at that time why she left her name on the ballot in MI when Edwards and Obama removed theirs. Her answer, 'It doesn't matter, it won't count' (you'll have to google the exact quote, but it was almost exactly that). Now, at the end of the game, she wants to change the rules to count a race she was against, where she ran against herself. Is that fair ... or is that dirty? Her campaign manager is a member of the DNC, and he was one the people that made FL and MI be punished for breaking DNC rules. Now he's one of the loudest voices to include it. Is that hypocritical? Is that fair or dirty?

You have the Clinton's past fundraising scandals, notably con-man Norman Hsu who helped raise money for this campaign (and past campaigns). The short story (as I understand it), is that since there is a limit to the amount an individual can give a campaign ($2300/$4600), Hsu would give money to people in order for them to write checks to the Clinton campaign($850,000). Hsu was indicted and I think convicted. Was that fair or dirty?

Back to the recent examples, you have the ''southern strategy'' used on Obama. When Bill Clinton was asked 'does it take two people to beat Obama', Bill Clinton answered "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ‘84 and ‘88. (pause...) Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.” Not only does that not answer the question, those are clear code words. There should be no debate amongst any reasonable man what was intended by those words. And that .... was dirty.

Sure, you can make a very legit argument that what Bush to McCain far exceeded any of those examples. And I'd agree, what happened to McCain crossed the line from dirty to reprehensible, but Clinton is not clean herself, far from it.
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Joe Cahn is an option Sassy. I think you may have met him? Candidate for the Tailgate Party. Seriously.

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I don't think Rick Astley is an American. Otherwise, you'd be seeing Arnold Schwarzeneggar running for President.
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That'll teach em, writing in some loon who thinks the U.S. government has been amassing foreign troops on our borders.
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All part of the same bullsh*t fishing expedition.

Face it - if there was any truth or substance to any of these allegations then you guys wouldn't have had to settle for a blowjob scandal in your hunt for grounds for impeachment.





Went "ape?"

The media made the story go away and the court-appointed pinhead never had to answer any questions about it again (just like his cocaine use.)
Yep, the Repugs had to settle for a silly blowjob scandal and knew they could get Bill to lie because what man wouldn't.

Agree again on the "ape". And when those DWI records were searched for, whalaaa, they were gone. Talk about yet another coverup......except we all knew already!

You're right LA, comical, that he finds these people as absolutely dirty after supporting the dirtiest administration since I've been alive.
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I just have a bad feeling that you democRATS are gonna I'd like to crawl in the same snuggie with my city up.
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worse than the Repukes? I doubt it's possible, even if someone tried real hard.
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worse than the Repukes? I doubt it's possible, even if someone tried real hard.
The Dems have been in charge of Denver for as long as I can remember. So they never had the opportunity.

Anyway, I think if Hillary gets the nomination with the superdelegates, we're gonna get riots.
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