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Old 02-14-2008, 05:12 PM   #1
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Would this make you vote for him? If not, would Romney as VP do it? I'd say no on the first and maybe on the second (unless Billary was running, of course). McCain is what he is whether Romney endorses him or not. I appreciate Romney's desire to put party ahead of politics, but I want the party to stand for something...and John McCain is not it. I'd rather see Obama get it just to stick it to McCain for all the times his screwed us.

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Old 02-14-2008, 05:51 PM   #2
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I think Romney has done nothing but prove that he's a big wimp. Simply put: he's not a fighter. If he ever had a chance at my vote, he lost it when he cowered at a time when his constituents wanted, nay NEEDED him to fight.

I'm just thankful that I'm not one of the folks that he's letting down.
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Old 02-14-2008, 06:14 PM   #3
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Basically, it is the party hacks all lining up to get behind the nominee because they think there's a chance they might get an ambassadorship or a cabinet position out of it or just so they can look like a team-player because they want those party dollars flowing to them the next time they need to be re-elected.

Although I do think some Republican senators are endorsing McCain because they honestly want to see him get out of the Senate.

It really should surprise nobody that anyone connected inside the Beltway is endorsing the presumed nominee. It's all about positioning oneself for the next four years.
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Old 02-14-2008, 06:50 PM   #4
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I was disappointed that Romney endorsed McCain – endorsements do not mean jack – unless you are Oprah. Politicians always line up behind the party -- in order to get power, that is a sacrifice they make. I think that one reason Romney dropped out was that he knew with Huckabee in splitting the vote he was not going to pull it off, so staying in would have the effect of fragmenting things more.

Regarding Romney as a VP for McCain thing --- it would make me able to vote for McCain --- but, McCain HATES Romney, so I doubt it would happen. McCain's best choice would be Fred Thomson -- it would help the most with the base, and the south. Remember that there is a percentage of the religious right who will not vote for McCain, or someone who is LDS – so Romney brings in the Fiscal conservatives, but not the religious right. But Thompson would appeal to the religious right, AND fiscal conservatives.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:36 AM   #6
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I didn't like any of the candidates. At first glance I liked Fred Thompson but he was a dead fish. I didn't like how Huckabee tried to out "Christian" everyone that was just tacky. Can we have a Redo or something??
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I was disappointed that Romney endorsed McCain – endorsements do not mean jack – unless you are Oprah. Politicians always line up behind the party -- in order to get power, that is a sacrifice they make. I think that one reason Romney dropped out was that he knew with Huckabee in splitting the vote he was not going to pull it off, so staying in would have the effect of fragmenting things more.

Regarding Romney as a VP for McCain thing --- it would make me able to vote for McCain --- but, McCain HATES Romney, so I doubt it would happen. McCain's best choice would be Fred Thomson -- it would help the most with the base, and the south. Remember that there is a percentage of the religious right who will not vote for McCain, or someone who is LDS – so Romney brings in the Fiscal conservatives, but not the religious right. But Thompson would appeal to the religious right, AND fiscal conservatives.
Except I know that Thompson wasn't a big McCain fan either. He was railing on him in the last primary he participated in.
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:24 AM   #8
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I think Romney has done nothing but prove that he's a big wimp. Simply put: he's not a fighter. If he ever had a chance at my vote, he lost it when he cowered at a time when his constituents wanted, nay NEEDED him to fight.

I'm just thankful that I'm not one of the folks that he's letting down.
This coming from the guy who is supporting the candidate that makes Ralph Nader look electable. At least Romney knows when to cut his loses and go. After Florida it was pretty much over.
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This coming from the guy who is supporting the candidate that makes Ralph Nader look electable. At least Romney knows when to cut his loses and go. After Florida it was pretty much over.

I have no problem proudly supporting the most principled conservative of the bunch. Principled conservatives might not be electable in this day and age, but I have no problem proudly backing them. I'll be writing Ron Paul's name on my ballot regardless. I'm not going to waste my vote on someone who I don't believe in.

And for what it's worth, my candidate is still fighting. He knows the odds are against him, but he hasn't given up. Romney cut bait and run.

Laugh if you want, but Romney had a chance to fight. In fact, the fight was just getting good. Romney was down, sure. But he was starting to get some big names in his corner and they were starting to carry the water. Romney let them all down by giving up the fight just when things started to look tough.

Huckabee didn't give up. He's still in there fighting for everything he's worth.

Romney proved two things:
1. He's a politician
2. He's a wimp

A guy with his disposition would never make it through November anyway. I think the writing was on the wall, but not the McCain writing. I think Romney knew that his flip flopping past was going to get him into trouble against Obama, and that the loser of the upcoming landslide is effectively finished politically. It was probably a smart move. Just not one that showed any backbone.

You might see it differently. I'm just calling it like I see it.
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Yeah, well ... somebody's gotta run and lose to Obama in 2012. May as well be Romney.
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I think Romney has done nothing but prove that he's a big wimp. Simply put: he's not a fighter. If he ever had a chance at my vote, he lost it when he cowered at a time when his constituents wanted, nay NEEDED him to fight.

I'm just thankful that I'm not one of the folks that he's letting down.
Ah a Bitter Ron Paul supporter whose fringe candidate effectively had zero shot at getting the nomination after Romney suspended his campaign.


Simply put, Romney fought as best he could, spend millions of his own money to continue his campaign. He ran a good race against two candidates, had it been just McCain vs Romney we would be looking at a different outcome. Don't worry about the Romney supporters, their money wasn't wasted on blimps and staging tea parties. Now Paul has a problem in his own district with a full-spectrum conservative (Peden) running against Ron Paul. Hmm, Hear that? Your "revolution" is crumbling to bits.
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would Romney as VP do it?
I really don't know and I honestly don't see that happening. I'd be VERY surprised and frankly would make for a very tough decision there.
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Unlike some other candidates, Romney understands the game and how it works (why continue to waste more of his and American citizen's money on a losing cause?).
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Ah a Bitter Ron Paul supporter whose fringe candidate effectively had zero shot at getting the nomination after Romney suspended his campaign.

Bitter? Why would I be bitter? The cause of founding father conservativism is ten years further than I had imagined it was. I'm excited if anything.


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Simply put, Romney fought as best he could, spend millions of his own money to continue his campaign. He ran a good race against two candidates, had it been just McCain vs Romney we would be looking at a different outcome. Don't worry about the Romney supporters, their money wasn't wasted on blimps and staging tea parties. Now Paul has a problem in his own district with a full-spectrum conservative (Peden) running against Ron Paul. Hmm, Hear that? Your "revolution" is crumbling to bits.
Haha... Peden is a joke. Not too worried about him... Also, to be clear: Peden is not a full spectrum conservative. He's a full spectrum Republican. There's a difference.

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I have no problem proudly supporting the most principled conservative of the bunch. Principled conservatives might not be electable in this day and age, but I have no problem proudly backing them. I'll be writing Ron Paul's name on my ballot regardless. I'm not going to waste my vote on someone who I don't believe in.

And for what it's worth, my candidate is still fighting. He knows the odds are against him, but he hasn't given up. Romney cut bait and run.

Laugh if you want, but Romney had a chance to fight. In fact, the fight was just getting good. Romney was down, sure. But he was starting to get some big names in his corner and they were starting to carry the water. Romney let them all down by giving up the fight just when things started to look tough.

Huckabee didn't give up. He's still in there fighting for everything he's worth.

Romney proved two things:
1. He's a politician
2. He's a wimp

A guy with his disposition would never make it through November anyway. I think the writing was on the wall, but not the McCain writing. I think Romney knew that his flip flopping past was going to get him into trouble against Obama, and that the loser of the upcoming landslide is effectively finished politically. It was probably a smart move. Just not one that showed any backbone.

You might see it differently. I'm just calling it like I see it.
He is a politician, and is positioning himself for the future -- the Repubs seem to value waiting in line for the nomination, which was part of the resentment of Romney (the upstart.)

One does need to look at the states that were coming... the southern states were going to go Hucks way, not his. Romney was going to loose more money, and hurt his chances for a later run. I think that Romney also saw what was going on every day with talk radio bashing McCain and comparing him to Romney. As McCain was going to with win it anyway and caculatingly deciding that staying in would make things worse for the Repub party as McCain will need every week to galvinize folks.

Personally, I dont think McCain can galvinze the support to beat Obama, and wish Romney would have stayed in another two weeks -- but if he had and lost the Southern states badly he woulld have hurt his chances for the future, and the way the ecomomy is headed I think he may be needed four years from now.
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