What would you call this?

[alkemical]

Another poster on a board i'm on posted this:


The speech George W. Bush SHOULD give:

Normally, I start these things out by saying "My Fellow Americans." Not doing it this time. If the polls are any indication, I don't know who more than half of you are anymore. I do know something terrible, you're really not fellow Americans any longer.

I'll cut right to the chase here: I quit. Now before anyone gets all in a lather about me quitting to avoid impeachment, or to avoid prosecution or something, let me assure you: There's been no breaking of laws or impeachable offenses in this office.

The reason I'm quitting is simple. I'm fed up with you people. I'm fed up because you have no understanding of what's really going on in the world. Or of what's going on in this once-great nation of ours. And the majority of you are too damned lazy to do your homework and figure it out.

Let's start local. You've been sold a bill of goods by politicians and the news media. Polls show that the majority of you think the economy is in the tank. And that's despite record numbers of homeowners, including record numbers of MINORITY homeowners. And while we're mentioning minorities, I'll point out that minority business ownership is at an all-time high. Our unemployment rate is as low as it ever was during the Clinton administration. I've mentioned all those things before, but it doesn't seem to have sunk in.

Despite the shock to our economy of 9/11, the stock market has rebounded to record levels and more Americans than ever are participating in these markets. Meanwhile, all you can do is whine about gas prices, and most of you are too damn stupid to realize that gas prices are high because there's increased demand in other parts of the world, and because a small handful of noisy idiots are more worried about polar bears and beachfront property than your economic security.

We face real threats in the world. Don't give me this "blood for oil" thing. If I were trading blood for oil I would've already seized Iraq 's oil fields and let the rest of the country go to hell. And don't give me this 'Bush Lied; People Died' crap either. If I were the liar you morons take me for, I could've easily had chemical weapons planted in Iraq so they coul d be 'discovered.' Instead, I owned up to the fact that the intelligence was faulty.

Let me remind you that the rest of the world thought Saddam had the goods, same as me. Let me also remind you that regime change in Iraq was official US policy before I came into office. Some guy named 'Clinton' established that policy. Bet you didn't know that, did you?

You idiots need to understand that we face a unique enemy. Back during the cold war, there were two major competing political and economic models squaring off. We won that war, but we did so because fundamentally, the Communists wanted to survive, just as we do. We were simply able to out spend and out-tech them.

That's not the case this time. The soldiers of our new enemy don't care if they survive. In fact, they want to die. That'd be fine, as long as they weren't also committed to taking as many of you with them as they can. But they are. They want to kill you, and the bastards are all over the globe.

You should be grateful that they haven't gotten any more of us here in the United States since September 11. But you're not. That's because you've got no idea how hard a small number of intelligence, military, law enforcement, and homeland security people have worked to make sure of that. When this whole mess started, I warned you that this would be a long and difficult fight. I'm disappointed how many of you people think a long and difficult fight amounts to a single season of 'Survivor.'

Instead, you've grown impatient. You're incapable of seeing things through the long lens of history, the way our enemies do. You think that wars should last a few months, a few years, tops.

Making matters worse, you actively support those who help the enemy. Every time you buy the New York Times, every time you send a donation to a cut-and-run Democrat's political campaign, well, dang it, you might just as well FedEx a grenade launcher to a Jihadist. It amounts to the same thing.

In this day and age, it's easy enough to find the truth. It's all over the Internet. It just isn't on the pages of the New York Times or on NBC News. But even if it were, I doubt you'd be any smarter. Most of you would rather watch American Idol.

I could say more about your expectations that the government will always be there to bail you out, even if you're too stupid to leave a city that's below sea level and has a hurricane approaching.

I could say more about your insane belief that government, not your own wallet, is where the money comes from. But I've come to the conclusion that were I to do so, it would sail right over your heads.

So I quit. I'm going back to Crawford. I've got an energy-efficient house down there (Al Gore could only dream) and the capability to be fully self-sufficient. No one ever heard of Crawford before I got elected, and as soon as I'm done here pretty much no one will ever hear of it again. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to die of old age before the last pillars of America fall.

Oh, and by the way, Cheney's quitting too. That means Pelosi is your new President. You asked for it. Watch what she does carefully, because I still have a glimmer of hope that there are just enough of you remaining who are smart enough to turn this thing around in 2008.

So that's it. God bless what's left of America. Some of you know what I mean. The rest of you, kiss off.

[TheDave]

Talk about reality tunnels...

[alkemical]

Yep. Now, here's fun. Outline or colour the parts that you find to be true, or false to your perspective.

[alkemical]

Bold = Propaganda/Dualistic approach to reinforce us v. them mentality

Red = Possible True Statement (I read it "out of context")

Green = Half-Truth

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Another poster on a board i'm on posted this:


The speech George W. Bush SHOULD give:

Normally, I start these things out by saying "My Fellow Americans." Not doing it this time. If the polls are any indication, I don't know who more than half of you are anymore. I do know something terrible, you're really not fellow Americans any longer.

I'll cut right to the chase here: I quit. Now before anyone gets all in a lather about me quitting to avoid impeachment, or to avoid prosecution or something, let me assure you: There's been no breaking of laws or impeachable offenses in this office.

The reason I'm quitting is simple. I'm fed up with you people. I'm fed up because you have no understanding of what's really going on in the world. Or of what's going on in this once-great nation of ours. And the majority of you are too damned lazy to do your homework and figure it out.

Let's start local. You've been sold a bill of goods by politicians and the news media. Polls show that the majority of you think the economy is in the tank. And that's despite record numbers of homeowners, including record numbers of MINORITY homeowners. And while we're mentioning minorities, I'll point out that minority business ownership is at an all-time high. Our unemployment rate is as low as it ever was during the Clinton administration. I've mentioned all those things before, but it doesn't seem to have sunk in.

Despite the shock to our economy of 9/11, the stock market has rebounded to record levels and more Americans than ever are participating in these markets. Meanwhile, all you can do is whine about gas prices, and most of you are too damn stupid to realize that gas prices are high because there's increased demand in other parts of the world, and because a small handful of noisy idiots are more worried about polar bears and beachfront property than your economic security.

We face real threats in the world. Don't give me this "blood for oil" thing. If I were trading blood for oil I would've already seized Iraq 's oil fields and let the rest of the country go to hell. And don't give me this 'Bush Lied; People Died' crap either. If I were the liar you morons take me for, I could've easily had chemical weapons planted in Iraq so they coul d be 'discovered.' Instead, I owned up to the fact that the intelligence was faulty.

Let me remind you that the rest of the world thought Saddam had the goods, same as me. Let me also remind you that regime change in Iraq was official US policy before I came into office. Some guy named 'Clinton' established that policy. Bet you didn't know that, did you?

You idiots need to understand that we face a unique enemy. Back during the cold war, there were two major competing political and economic models squaring off. We won that war, but we did so because fundamentally, the Communists wanted to survive, just as we do. We were simply able to out spend and out-tech them.

That's not the case this time. The soldiers of our new enemy don't care if they survive. In fact, they want to die. That'd be fine, as long as they weren't also committed to taking as many of you with them as they can. But they are. They want to kill you, and the bastards are all over the globe.

You should be grateful that they haven't gotten any more of us here in the United States since September 11. But you're not. That's because you've got no idea how hard a small number of intelligence, military, law enforcement, and homeland security people have worked to make sure of that. When this whole mess started, I warned you that this would be a long and difficult fight. I'm disappointed how many of you people think a long and difficult fight amounts to a single season of 'Survivor.'

Instead, you've grown impatient. You're incapable of seeing things through the long lens of history, the way our enemies do. You think that wars should last a few months, a few years, tops.

Making matters worse, you actively support those who help the enemy. Every time you buy the New York Times, every time you send a donation to a cut-and-run Democrat's political campaign, well, dang it, you might just as well FedEx a grenade launcher to a Jihadist. It amounts to the same thing.

In this day and age, it's easy enough to find the truth. It's all over the Internet. It just isn't on the pages of the New York Times or on NBC News. But even if it were, I doubt you'd be any smarter. Most of you would rather watch American Idol.

I could say more about your expectations that the government will always be there to bail you out, even if you're too stupid to leave a city that's below sea level and has a hurricane approaching.

I could say more about your insane belief that government, not your own wallet, is where the money comes from. But I've come to the conclusion that were I to do so, it would sail right over your heads.

So I quit. I'm going back to Crawford. I've got an energy-efficient house down there (Al Gore could only dream) and the capability to be fully self-sufficient. No one ever heard of Crawford before I got elected, and as soon as I'm done here pretty much no one will ever hear of it again. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to die of old age before the last pillars of America fall.

Oh, and by the way, Cheney's quitting too. That means Pelosi is your new President. You asked for it. Watch what she does carefully, because I still have a glimmer of hope that there are just enough of you remaining who are smart enough to turn this thing around in 2008.

So that's it. God bless what's left of America. Some of you know what I mean. The rest of you, kiss off.

Just an example.

[Breaker]

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Another poster on a board i'm on posted this:


The speech George W. Bush SHOULD give:

Normally, I start these things out by saying "My Fellow Americans." Not doing it this time. If the polls are any indication, I don't know who more than half of you are anymore. I do know something terrible, you're really not fellow Americans any longer.

I'll cut right to the chase here: I quit. Now before anyone gets all in a lather about me quitting to avoid impeachment, or to avoid prosecution or something, let me assure you: There's been no breaking of laws or impeachable offenses in this office.

The reason I'm quitting is simple. I'm fed up with you people. I'm fed up because you have no understanding of what's really going on in the world. Or of what's going on in this once-great nation of ours. And the majority of you are too damned lazy to do your homework and figure it out.

Let's start local. You've been sold a bill of goods by politicians and the news media. Polls show that the majority of you think the economy is in the tank. And that's despite record numbers of homeowners, including record numbers of MINORITY homeowners. And while we're mentioning minorities, I'll point out that minority business ownership is at an all-time high. Our unemployment rate is as low as it ever was during the Clinton administration. I've mentioned all those things before, but it doesn't seem to have sunk in.

Despite the shock to our economy of 9/11, the stock market has rebounded to record levels and more Americans than ever are participating in these markets. Meanwhile, all you can do is whine about gas prices, and most of you are too damn stupid to realize that gas prices are high because there's increased demand in other parts of the world, and because a small handful of noisy idiots are more worried about polar bears and beachfront property than your economic security.

We face real threats in the world. Don't give me this "blood for oil" thing. If I were trading blood for oil I would've already seized Iraq 's oil fields and let the rest of the country go to hell. And don't give me this 'Bush Lied; People Died' crap either. If I were the liar you morons take me for, I could've easily had chemical weapons planted in Iraq so they coul d be 'discovered.' Instead, I owned up to the fact that the intelligence was faulty.

Let me remind you that the rest of the world thought Saddam had the goods, same as me. Let me also remind you that regime change in Iraq was official US policy before I came into office. Some guy named 'Clinton' established that policy. Bet you didn't know that, did you?

You idiots need to understand that we face a unique enemy. Back during the cold war, there were two major competing political and economic models squaring off. We won that war, but we did so because fundamentally, the Communists wanted to survive, just as we do. We were simply able to out spend and out-tech them.

That's not the case this time. The soldiers of our new enemy don't care if they survive. In fact, they want to die. That'd be fine, as long as they weren't also committed to taking as many of you with them as they can. But they are. They want to kill you, and the bastards are all over the globe.

You should be grateful that they haven't gotten any more of us here in the United States since September 11. But you're not. That's because you've got no idea how hard a small number of intelligence, military, law enforcement, and homeland security people have worked to make sure of that. When this whole mess started, I warned you that this would be a long and difficult fight. I'm disappointed how many of you people think a long and difficult fight amounts to a single season of 'Survivor.'

Instead, you've grown impatient. You're incapable of seeing things through the long lens of history, the way our enemies do. You think that wars should last a few months, a few years, tops.

Making matters worse, you actively support those who help the enemy. Every time you buy the New York Times, every time you send a donation to a cut-and-run Democrat's political campaign, well, dang it, you might just as well FedEx a grenade launcher to a Jihadist. It amounts to the same thing.

In this day and age, it's easy enough to find the truth. It's all over the Internet. It just isn't on the pages of the New York Times or on NBC News. But even if it were, I doubt you'd be any smarter. Most of you would rather watch American Idol.

I could say more about your expectations that the government will always be there to bail you out, even if you're too stupid to leave a city that's below sea level and has a hurricane approaching.

I could say more about your insane belief that government, not your own wallet, is where the money comes from. But I've come to the conclusion that were I to do so, it would sail right over your heads.

So I quit. I'm going back to Crawford. I've got an energy-efficient house down there (Al Gore could only dream) and the capability to be fully self-sufficient. No one ever heard of Crawford before I got elected, and as soon as I'm done here pretty much no one will ever hear of it again. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to die of old age before the last pillars of America fall.

Oh, and by the way, Cheney's quitting too. That means Pelosi is your new President. You asked for it. Watch what she does carefully, because I still have a glimmer of hope that there are just enough of you remaining who are smart enough to turn this thing around in 2008.

So that's it. God bless what's left of America. Some of you know what I mean. The rest of you, kiss off.

Is this Bush channeling his inner mhgaffney

[Crushaholic]

While the name-calling is a bit too much, I would love for Bush to give a speech like this. There's not one bit of content with which I disagree in that speech. The only thing I would add is saying that wiretapping is the right thing to do. I truly believe that the government doesn't care the least about the average calls to grandma. They are looking for signs of trouble from terrorists.

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

While the name-calling is a bit too much, I would love for Bush to give a speech like this. There's not one bit of content with which I disagree in that speech. The only thing I would add is saying that wiretapping is the right thing to do. I truly believe that the government doesn't care the least about the average calls to grandma. They are looking for signs of trouble from terrorists.

Aside from Cheney, Inever thought I would find another total clone of the BushCo mentality until I read your response.

What the **** is in the water where you live. You are part of what is wrong with this country. Do you still sport one of those W stickers? If someone in a white Ford pickup pull up beside you and flip you the bird, it might be me.

1. there have been plenty of impeachable offenses.
2. there have been plenty of laws broken and ignored.
3. the home ownership comment are laughable, at best, considering the foreclosure numbers, the comment isn't even funny anymore.
4. the only reason the "rest of the world" thought that Saddam had "the goods" is because vacation boy didn't allow the real intelligance to be made available to them. He selected what he wanted them to know/ think.


In closing his last statement should have been: Kiss off America, I never cared about this country anyway.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

While the name-calling is a bit too much, I would love for Bush to give a speech like this. There's not one bit of content with which I disagree in that speech. The only thing I would add is saying that wiretapping is the right thing to do. I truly believe that the government doesn't care the least about the average calls to grandma. They are looking for signs of trouble from terrorists.

So by not agreeing with the Administration, you aren't "American"?

[TexanBob]

I don't want Bush to quit. I want him to endorse Hillary. You know, Bill and Dubya are chums sharing the secret handshakes at Keenebunkport with Bush41 and McCain has still got a grudge against Bush from 2000. Maybe George wants that Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton thing going awhile longer.

The lefties would have their heads explode if Dubya endorsed Hillary. It would be so great to watch them flap around like Chicken Littles if that happened.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by TexanBob

I don't want Bush to quit. I want him to endorse Hillary. You know, Bill and Dubya are chums sharing the secret handshakes at Keenebunkport with Bush41 and McCain has still got a grudge against Bush from 2000. Maybe George wants that Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton thing going awhile longer.

The lefties would have their heads explode if Dubya endorsed Hillary. It would be so great to watch them flap around like Chicken Littles if that happened.

Bush has basically endorsed McCain.

[baja]

Well that should prove to be the kiss of death.

[rugbythug]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Aside from Cheney, Inever thought I would find another total clone of the BushCo mentality until I read your response.

What the **** is in the water where you live. You are part of what is wrong with this country. Do you still sport one of those W stickers? If someone in a white Ford pickup pull up beside you and flip you the bird, it might be me.

1. there have been plenty of impeachable offenses.
2. there have been plenty of laws broken and ignored.
3. the home ownership comment are laughable, at best, considering the foreclosure numbers, the comment isn't even funny anymore.
4. the only reason the "rest of the world" thought that Saddam had "the goods" is because vacation boy didn't allow the real intelligance to be made available to them. He selected what he wanted them to know/ think.


In closing his last statement should have been: Kiss off America, I never cared about this country anyway.

Your Nutty- Actually since you seem to think it is ok to Demean people based on message board posts you disagree with I should put lots of *** in here and stuff.

There are no Impeachable offenses or Broken Laws. Just because case law is being made right now and not everything is swinging the way W wanted it to does not mean Bush broke laws.

Minority Ownership is at an alltime high. No matter what you say with no backing. When the left gets mad because banks were descriminating against the poor and underpaid forcing banks to loan out more suspect loans, they cannot then whine and moan about banks having to forclose on these same risky loans when people can't pay.

Also are you foolish enough to think that other countries do not have their own intelligence operations?

[Bronco Jamus]

Originally Posted by rugbythug

Your Nutty- Actually since you seem to think it is ok to Demean people based on message board posts you disagree with I should put lots of *** in here and stuff.

There are no Impeachable offenses or Broken Laws. Just because case law is being made right now and not everything is swinging the way W wanted it to does not mean Bush broke laws.

Minority Ownership is at an alltime high. No matter what you say with no backing. When the left gets mad because banks were descriminating against the poor and underpaid forcing banks to loan out more suspect loans, they cannot then whine and moan about banks having to forclose on these same risky loans when people can't pay.

Also are you foolish enough to think that other countries do not have their own intelligence operations?

Indeed.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by rugbythug

Your Nutty- Actually since you seem to think it is ok to Demean people based on message board posts you disagree with I should put lots of *** in here and stuff.

There are no Impeachable offenses or Broken Laws. Just because case law is being made right now and not everything is swinging the way W wanted it to does not mean Bush broke laws.

Minority Ownership is at an alltime high. No matter what you say with no backing. When the left gets mad because banks were descriminating against the poor and underpaid forcing banks to loan out more suspect loans, they cannot then whine and moan about banks having to forclose on these same risky loans when people can't pay.

Also are you foolish enough to think that other countries do not have their own intelligence operations?

uhhhhhhh The outing of a CIA agent .... thats not impeachable ?
what about the downing street memo ?
The whole Ken lay thing , you know Cheney still hasnt released the energy meeting minuts back in 2000 ....
those are just a couple I can come up with on the spur of the moment

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by rugbythug

When the left gets mad because banks were descriminating against the poor and underpaid forcing banks to loan out more suspect loans, they cannot then whine and moan about banks having to forclose on these same risky loans when people can't pay.

You lose a lot of credibility when you make up bull**** like this...

Todays foreclosure problem has absolutely nothing to do with the right or the left. It has everything to do with risky lending practices that made millions for brokers, lenders, hedge fund managers, and consumers while RE values were increasing at 20% annually. Unfortunately, the bubble burst leaving certian members of each of the above groups holding the bag.

[enjolras]

The amount of denial in the mock-speech is... head hurting. The most amazing part is that the guy is capable of even formulating a sentence, much less mustering the neurons to work a computer.

We're really making these things to easy these days.

[enjolras]

Originally Posted by TheDave

You lose a lot of credibility when you make up bull**** like this...

Todays foreclosure problem has absolutely nothing to do with the right or the left. It has everything to do with risky lending practices that made millions for brokers, lenders, hedge fund managers, and consumers while RE values were increasing at 20% annually. Unfortunately, the bubble burst leaving certian members of each of the above groups holding the bag.

Spot on. Greed caused this bubble. That same greed that you see on black fridays with folks stomping on each others heads at WalMarts across the country to get at the $20 DVD player.

Greed is a hell of a drug.

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by Bronco Jamus

Indeed.

Indeed my ass. There are plenty of impeachable offenses. This is why he has made the effort to pardon himself and his buttbudddies.

Just because you and the rugby kid want to close your eyes and allow a president to re-write the laws to fit his agenda doesn't mean he is imune from prosecution.

[Rohirrim]

That somebody in America could write such a piece of Bush propaganda is just another indication to me of how bad our system of education has become.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Indeed my ass. There are plenty of impeachable offenses. This is why he has made the effort to pardon himself and his buttbudddies.

Just because you and the rugby kid want to close your eyes and allow a president to re-write the laws to fit his agenda doesn't mean he is imune from prosecution.

Yep.

Sometimes it seems these morons approach rooting for GeeDubya and the GOP in the same manner as pulling for a football team and its QB - no matter how bad the team and QB f*@k up.

[baja]

Originally Posted by enjolras

Spot on. Greed caused this bubble. That same greed that you see on black fridays with folks stomping on each others heads at WalMarts across the country to get at the $20 DVD player.

Greed is a hell of a drug.

Greed is more of an addiction that a drug.

[rugbythug]

Originally Posted by enjolras

Spot on. Greed caused this bubble. That same greed that you see on black fridays with folks stomping on each others heads at WalMarts across the country to get at the $20 DVD player.

Greed is a hell of a drug.

To me it seems more of a problem with brokers fine tuning applications, however it is the banks that end up holding the bag.

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by rugbythug

To me it seems more of a problem with brokers fine tuning applications, however it is the banks that end up holding the bag.

Actually it's the mortgage backed securities that are holding the bag... the vast majority of loans that are defaulting packaged and sold on the secondary market. Banks that hold and service all of their loans are nearly unheard of.

[baja]

Derivatives and Hedge funds - big troubles ahead

[rugbythug]

Originally Posted by TheDave

Actually it's the mortgage backed securities that are holding the bag... the vast majority of loans that are defaulting packaged and sold on the secondary market. Banks that hold and service all of their loans are nearly unheard of.

I was under the impression both Countrywide and Citibank were in serious trouble, is this not true?