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Chiefs > Broncos
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!! |
Shanny article.
Some people are rightfully angered by this offseason’s turn of events. After a 4-12 record, the worst Chiefs season since the 1980s, fans wanted blood. When Carl Peterson wasn’t fired and Herm Edwards was retained, many were outraged. Perhaps those sentiments aren’t completely appropriate given what we’ve witnessed around the AFC West the last month. While the Chiefs were busy searching for their new offensive coordinator, the Denver Broncos and now the Oakland Raiders were busy dealing with their own in-house problems created out of impatience and to be frank, incompetence. Two weeks ago Denver fired Jim Bates from his position as defensive coordinator. Shortly thereafter, they released Mike Heimerdinger from his position as assistant head coach. And most recently, the news out of Oakland is that Al Davis is ready for head coach Lane Kiffin, after just one year on the job, to hit the bricks. The Broncos and the Raiders are overreacting to poor seasons. The situation in Denver is the bigger mess because of Mike Shanahan’s history. Since taking over as head coach of the Broncos in 1995, Shanahan has employed four different defensive coordinators – Greg Robinson, Ray Rhodes, Larry Coyer and Bates. He has now fired all four. Only Robinson managed to stick longer than four seasons, mostly because he rode the coattails of Shanahan’s dynamic, John Elway-led offense to Super Bowl victories. Shanahan had little patience with Robinson after those championship seasons despite the fact his team was rebuilding. Rhodes was shipped out after only two seasons and even Coyer, who actually found decent success as Denver's defensive coordinator (the Broncos were a top 10 scoring defense every year of Coyer’s tenure), was given little leeway. Now Bates, a man with a resume for building successful defenses, has been unceremoniously dumped after just one year. These men have all become scapegoats for Shanahan, whose real failure in the post-Elway era has been horrible drafting. Of course, even if his four defensive coordinators deserved to be fired (at least two of which you can argue did not), how does Shanahan escape blame for hiring so many men who apparently couldn’t get the job done? To make matters worse, the Broncos promoted Bob Slowik, Denver’s defensive backs coach in 2007, to replace Bates as defensive coordinator. What? No disrespect for David Gibbs, but can you imagine the outrage in Kansas City if the Chiefs suddenly threw Gunther Cunningham out on the street and replaced him with the defensive backs coach from the previous two seasons? Jason Whitlock would have a field day with such an event. To make matters worse, Shanahan is replacing Bates with someone whose history as an NFL defensive coordinator is spotty, and that’s being kind. In eight seasons as a coordinator, Slowik has produced one top ten defense and a litany of uninspiring units on horrible football teams. Most recently, he produced the league’s 25th ranked unit in Green Bay before being replaced by none other than Jim Bates the following season (Bates immediately elevated the Packers’ defense back to respectability). Patience? Shanahan could definitely use the dose Clark Hunt has shown with his franchise and the men running it this offseason, especially considering he has just one playoff win since 1998 and has now missed the playoffs two years in a row. The best part of Shanahan – Gary Kubiak, his long-standing offensive coordinator – just might be in Houston at the moment. If Heimerdinger, now the offensive coordinator in Tennessee, winds up making something of Vince Young next season, Shanahan will look awfully foolish. As for the Raiders, Al Davis’ impatience needs no introduction. A Norv Turner here, an Art Shell there, now Lane Kiffin. Is it any surprise Oakland hasn’t posted a winning season since Rich Gannon was playing like an MVP and Bill Callahan was riding the success of Jon Gruden? Friday the Raiders denied Kiffin was under the gun, but they did the same thing last year when Adam Schefter first reported Art Shell was on the chopping block. If Kiffin is eventually ousted as Oakland’s head coach in the coming days, Chiefs fans can be secure in the knowledge that the Raiders will never be a threat to win the AFC West until Al Davis loses patience with this mortal coil and shuffles right off it. Chiefs fans look at Carl Peterson as a roadblock to the Super Bowl, but right now Davis' meddling ways have the Raiders stuck firmly in neutral. Yes, Kansas City was bad last season. But at least the ship has a course, and a patient captain to man the helm. You may not agree with the direction the Chiefs are taking, but at least it's a direction. |
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Chiefs > Broncos
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 25,918
Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!! |
Oh, and I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAACK!
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Got trolls?
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Location: Tampa Bay
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You guys get that nauseous feeling too? I think that was the effect of the rapid drop in the collective IQ and rise in body fat index for the entire forum.
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Lost In Space
Join Date: Apr 2004
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****, who didn't flush
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Bailey brothers kick a$$
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Is this thing on???
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Obviously, this is an excellent article since the Chiefs have been so successful. Write it down as gospel, the Chiefs know how to build a winning organization (and draft right next to the Raiders)...
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San Diego changed more coaches than almost everyone in the division combined last year and made it to the AFCCG. No mention of that, huh? Is this a C.E. Clayton original?
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"Only Robinson managed to stick longer than four seasons, mostly because he rode the coattails of Shanahan’s dynamic, John Elway-led offense to Super Bowl victories."
This is where you have to believe the writer isn't atuned to our team. Those defense were great. |
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Ring of Famer
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By the way, I'm sure Oakland, Denver, and San Diego are all thrilled with the Chiefs' patience.
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Lost In Space
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Clueless...
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Who let this ****ing douchebag back in?
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Chiefs > Broncos
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!! |
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Shanahan will never get back to the Super Bowl if he doesn't find a defensive coordinator and stick with him. Right now it looks like he's completely unable to do just that. |
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Got trolls?
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Can we move this to the butt where it belongs?
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lets go partner
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Hanna Montana is on bob.
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bring the Bobo ban back.
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Chiefs > Broncos
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!! |
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.
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lets go partner
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Ring of farmers
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More KC threads *Throws up*
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lets go partner
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A new beginning!
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Now you are defending one of the most pathetic posters on the mane? Next to you of course. A little history cry baby. When Broncos or anyone playing the KC Chiefs get hurt the first thing he posts is stay down b****. Now that falls in line with what you are crying about in the LT thread.
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lets go partner
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He don't know bobo yet.. ![]() |
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