Mayocks New Top 5 - Shuffle Begins - The Orange Mane

SpringStein · 01-23-2008, 08:15 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

DaJuan Morgan over Phillips at safety
McKelvin at #1 in CB class
Manningham at #1 at WR - Jackson not in top 5
Henne over Brohm and Woodson

Interesting....

socalorado · 01-23-2008, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpringStein

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

DaJuan Morgan over Phillips at safety
McKelvin at #1 in CB class
Manningham at #1 at WR - Jackson not in top 5
Henne over Brohm and Woodson

Interesting....

WOW.

Mayock's top 5 Safeties:
Rank Player College
1. DaJuan Morgan N.C. State
2. Kenny Phillips Miami (Fla.)
3. Thomas DeCoud Auburn
4. Marcus Griffin Texas
5. Tyrell Johnson Arkansas State

DeCoud goes to CAL and Tyrell Johnsons level of competition is obviously a concern.
Morgan is considered a solid FS, but jeez, ahead of Phillips is a bit much.

SpringStein · 01-23-2008, 08:56 AM

He has several players at the wrong school - Brandon Albert and Jack Ikegwuono are also wrong. I'm sure that will be cleaned up.

Northman · 01-23-2008, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpringStein

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

DaJuan Morgan over Phillips at safety
McKelvin at #1 in CB class
Manningham at #1 at WR - Jackson not in top 5
Henne over Brohm and Woodson

Interesting....

Dont agree with Morgan over Phillips. Dont know much about McKelvin so thats a possibility. Manningham is definitely one of the best if not the best receiver in this class. And i wouldnt argue about Henne too much although i think overall the Qb class this year is extremely weak.

Broncos_OTM · 01-23-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalorado

WOW.

Mayock's top 5 Safeties:
Rank Player College
1. DaJuan Morgan N.C. State
2. Kenny Phillips Miami (Fla.)
3. Thomas DeCoud Auburn
4. Marcus Griffin Texas
5. Tyrell Johnson Arkansas State

DeCoud goes to CAL and Tyrell Johnsons level of competition is obviously a concern.
Morgan is considered a solid FS, but jeez, ahead of Phillips is a bit much.

Did you actually watch Phillips this year. Color me unimpressed.

Broncos_OTM · 01-23-2008, 12:14 PM

Has any of you even watched Morgan play. How do you KNOW phillips is better or vice versa

nickademus · 01-23-2008, 06:29 PM

Mayoc always puts his michigan man-crush into his evaluations. and to leave the kid from Cal out of his wr prospects is plain dumb.

bpc · 01-23-2008, 06:40 PM

I haven't seen Morgan a bunch but he looks very solid and consistent. Probably not as big a playmaker potentially as Phillips though.

Manningham has had a great collegiate career when healthy. He is definitely a more polished WR than DeSean Jackson. DJ has all the rare ability that can make a player extremely special though. Obviously Mayock isn't buying it. Whatever, its just his opinion. He likes to stand alone in his picks though vs. the masses which all try to pile on the same players like ESPN, Kiper, and a plethora of others.

lex · 01-23-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by superceriani

Mayoc always puts his michigan man-crush into his evaluations. and to leave the kid from Cal out of his wr prospects is plain dumb.

Mayock went to BC. I guess "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"...since they both hate Notre Dame.

lex · 01-23-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

I haven't seen Morgan a bunch but he looks very solid and consistent. Probably not as big a playmaker potentially as Phillips though.

Manningham has had a great collegiate career when healthy. He is definitely a more polished WR than DeSean Jackson. DJ has all the rare ability that can make a player extremely special though. Obviously Mayock isn't buying it. Whatever, its just his opinion. He likes to stand alone in his picks though vs. the masses which all try to pile on the same players like ESPN, Kiper, and a plethora of others.

Its more why he likes a player. I dont have to agree with him but whats most important is sound reasoning and Mayock usually has good reasons and does a good job of demonstrating on film. Having said that, I thought his analysis of McKelvin was interesting last night. I thought it was interesting to see someone who is that poor at coming up with INT, being ranked as the top CB.

oubronco · 01-23-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncos_OTM

Did you actually watch Phillips this year. Color me unimpressed.

I watched as one Oklahoma reciever after another ABUSED him

nickademus · 01-24-2008, 12:16 AM

I know that he went to bc but if you have followed him over the past few years you would know what I mean. I was suprised that he didnt include hart in his evals.

lex · 01-24-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by superceriani

I know that he went to bc but if you have followed him over the past few years you would know what I mean. I was suprised that he didnt include hart in his evals.

Who has he hyped that didnt deliver?

want2bAbronco2 · 01-31-2008, 10:20 PM

Mayocks has to be the worest Draft person I have ever seen... He is never close to getting anything right. They should just pay me and I would get 100x closer then him!

SpringStein · 02-01-2008, 10:28 AM

Wow. I happen to think Mayock is the best draft guru out there...

Great13 · 02-01-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpringStein

Wow. I happen to think Mayock is the best draft guru out there...

He was one of the first people to sing Cutler's praises in the 06 pre-draft hype.

PRBronco · 02-01-2008, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpringStein

Wow. I happen to think Mayock is the best draft guru out there...

Yes but you didn't write in bold, so you must not be right

elsid13 · 02-11-2008, 07:08 PM

Updated again and Larsen is starting to get some love.

Mayock's top 5 ILBs:
Rank Player College
1. Dan Connor Penn State
2. Curtis Lofton Oklahoma
3. Spencer Larsen Arizona
4. Beau Bell UNLV
5. Jolonn Dunbar Boston College

PRBronco · 02-11-2008, 07:49 PM

Woah, he's got Mendenhall as the top running back. While I don't agree with it (or Elliss passing Dorsey) it's really nice to see a change from what everyone else has.

Dedhed · 02-11-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by want2bAbronco2

Mayocks has to be the worest Draft person I have ever seen... He is never close to getting anything right. They should just pay me and I would get 100x closer then him!

Mayock ranked Cutler as the #4 prospect in 2006.

DivineLegion · 02-12-2008, 12:49 AM

as a State fan...any secondary player comming out of the great North state not named Adrian Wilson is not a top Saftey.

SpringStein · 02-19-2008, 05:23 PM

New one today.

Otah now listed over Clady. Who was it, BPC that propped him a long time back?

Sweed as #1 WR - must think he's going to rumn better than expected at Indy.

Flowers fom VaTech as #1 CB - that surprises me, but I think he will be really good.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09...o&confirm=true

cmhargrove · 02-20-2008, 09:20 AM

All this stuff will probably be different by next week (after the combine). It should be interesting to see how the O-line tests out.

I keep asking myself what Cutler's opinion of Chris Williams is. I thought Jay was always running for his life behind a sub-standard line? Why is Williams now one of the top O-line picks? Anyway, just asking. Maybe it was a lack of talent down the whole line, or maybe it was just the level of defensive competition in the SEC.

Broncoman13 · 02-20-2008, 09:45 AM

Man, we could end up with a very nice haul in rounds 1 and 2.

Ryan Clady and DeSean Jackson

Some questions... if Rodgers-Cromartie is there in the 2nd do you draft him

How about Felix Jones or Malcolm Kelly?

I wonder if the Niners would have any interest in giving up their 1st and 2nd for our #12.

Chris Williams, DeSean Jackson, and Trevor Laws anybody>

Broncoman13 · 02-20-2008, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elsid13

Updated again and Larsen is starting to get some love.

Mayock's top 5 ILBs:
Rank Player College
1. Dan Connor Penn State
2. Curtis Lofton Oklahoma
3. Spencer Larsen Arizona
4. Beau Bell UNLV
5. Jolonn Dunbar Boston College

Larsen made some money when he played so well against Johnathon Stewart. He was Johnny on the spot and stood him up time and time again. Very good power at the POA, but range is an issue for him.

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01-23-2008, 08:15 AM	#1
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	Mayocks New Top 5 - Shuffle Begins http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true DaJuan Morgan over Phillips at safety McKelvin at #1 in CB class Manningham at #1 at WR - Jackson not in top 5 Henne over Brohm and Woodson Interesting....

01-23-2008, 08:56 AM	#3
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	He has several players at the wrong school - Brandon Albert and Jack Ikegwuono are also wrong. I'm sure that will be cleaned up.

01-23-2008, 12:14 PM	#6
Broncos_OTM Born Again HOOLIGAN Broncos Over All Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,542 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Has any of you even watched Morgan play. How do you KNOW phillips is better or vice versa

01-23-2008, 06:29 PM	#7
nickademus Samurai of Smack Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,105 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Mayoc always puts his michigan man-crush into his evaluations. and to leave the kid from Cal out of his wr prospects is plain dumb.

01-23-2008, 06:40 PM	#8
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I haven't seen Morgan a bunch but he looks very solid and consistent. Probably not as big a playmaker potentially as Phillips though. Manningham has had a great collegiate career when healthy. He is definitely a more polished WR than DeSean Jackson. DJ has all the rare ability that can make a player extremely special though. Obviously Mayock isn't buying it. Whatever, its just his opinion. He likes to stand alone in his picks though vs. the masses which all try to pile on the same players like ESPN, Kiper, and a plethora of others.

01-24-2008, 12:16 AM	#12
nickademus Samurai of Smack Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,105 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I know that he went to bc but if you have followed him over the past few years you would know what I mean. I was suprised that he didnt include hart in his evals.

01-31-2008, 10:20 PM	#14
want2bAbronco2 Pro Bowler Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 618	Mayocks has to be the worest Draft person I have ever seen... He is never close to getting anything right. They should just pay me and I would get 100x closer then him!

02-01-2008, 10:28 AM	#15
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	Wow. I happen to think Mayock is the best draft guru out there...

02-11-2008, 07:08 PM	#18
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,087	Updated again and Larsen is starting to get some love. Mayock's top 5 ILBs: Rank Player College 1. Dan Connor Penn State 2. Curtis Lofton Oklahoma 3. Spencer Larsen Arizona 4. Beau Bell UNLV 5. Jolonn Dunbar Boston College

02-11-2008, 07:49 PM	#19
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	Woah, he's got Mendenhall as the top running back. While I don't agree with it (or Elliss passing Dorsey) it's really nice to see a change from what everyone else has.

02-12-2008, 12:49 AM	#21
DivineLegion There can only be one... G.O.A.T Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Peak of Good Living Posts: 4,120 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	as a State fan...any secondary player comming out of the great North state not named Adrian Wilson is not a top Saftey.

02-19-2008, 05:23 PM	#22
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	New one today. Otah now listed over Clady. Who was it, BPC that propped him a long time back? Sweed as #1 WR - must think he's going to rumn better than expected at Indy. Flowers fom VaTech as #1 CB - that surprises me, but I think he will be really good. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09...o&confirm=true

02-20-2008, 09:20 AM	#23
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,409 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	All this stuff will probably be different by next week (after the combine). It should be interesting to see how the O-line tests out. I keep asking myself what Cutler's opinion of Chris Williams is. I thought Jay was always running for his life behind a sub-standard line? Why is Williams now one of the top O-line picks? Anyway, just asking. Maybe it was a lack of talent down the whole line, or maybe it was just the level of defensive competition in the SEC.

02-20-2008, 09:45 AM	#24
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	Man, we could end up with a very nice haul in rounds 1 and 2. Ryan Clady and DeSean Jackson Some questions... if Rodgers-Cromartie is there in the 2nd do you draft him How about Felix Jones or Malcolm Kelly? I wonder if the Niners would have any interest in giving up their 1st and 2nd for our #12. Chris Williams, DeSean Jackson, and Trevor Laws anybody>