Shanny's statement on Heimerdinger. - The Orange Mane

HEAV · 01-16-2008, 05:20 PM

The team asked the Broncos for permission to interview Heimerdinger to run their offense and the Broncos granted them access, Denver coach Mike Shanahan said.

"The Tennessee Titans have requested consent to talk to Mike Heimerdinger about their offensive coordinator position, and we have granted them permission," Shanahan said.

"The opportunity in Tennessee would give Mike the chance to go back to an organization and work with a head coach with whom he is very familiar, handling the entire offense and having full control over game-planning and play-calling responsibilities."

The Titans fired offensive coordinator Norm Chow on Tuesday, and Heimerdinger appears to be the top choice of Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher to run the team's offense. Heimerdinger was a successful offensive coordinator with Tennessee earlier this decade.

Heimerdinger has been the Broncos' assistant head coach in charge of offense the past two seasons. The Titans' job might entice Heimerdinger because he'd be in total charge of the unit, while Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has final say of the Denver offense.

If Heimerdinger were to leave, former Broncos assistants could be candidates to replace him. One possibility would be Karl Dorrell, who recently was fired as the head coach at UCLA. Dorrell is a former wide receivers coach with Denver.

Former Georgia Tech coach Chan Gailey, who might have drawn interest from the Broncos, was hired by the Kansas City Chiefs today as their offensive coordinator.

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"The opportunity in Tennessee would give Mike the chance to go back to an organization and work with a head coach with whom he is very familiar, handling the entire offense and having full control over game-planning and play-calling responsibilities."

You need to let go a little Shanny. Hanging onto the riens too tight bro.

Need a new mind a fresh look a secon par of eyes.

Kaylore · 01-16-2008, 05:29 PM

You're way off on this one, HEAV. Nobody let's a coordinator go to interview for another coordinator position, a lateral move, unless they want to get rid of him. The good news is we'll probably get a pick out of this. The other good news is Shanahan will be able to take over the play-calling again without worrying about offending his buddy.

MechanicalBull · 01-16-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

You're way off on this one, HEAV. Nobody let's a coordinator go to interview for another coordinator position, a lateral move, unless they want to get rid of him. The good news is we'll probably get a pick out of this. The other good news is Shanahan will be able to take over the play-calling again without worrying about offending his buddy.

How would we get a pick out of this? If you are talking trade I think the NFL got rid of that after Herm going to the Chiefs. Unless you mean another way.

Kaylore · 01-16-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MechanicalBull

How would we get a pick out of this? If you are talking trade I think the NFL got rid of that after Herm going to the Chiefs. Unless you mean another way.

I wasn't aware that the NFL got rid of that. Well then never mind. There's one good thing about this.

HEAV · 01-16-2008, 05:49 PM

Come on Kay.

Take over the play calling? Shanny never let it go!

He stated so in this release statement.

How many more cords does Shanny have to get rid of before he gets out for being the problem?

Really you think it was Heimerdinger that called back to back FB draws at the goal line?

Shanny has to see that, since kubes left, his strong arm control hasn't worked.

It's one thing to have the boss controlling the staff and making sure they are getting the job done.

But when he steps in is wearing all the hats it's just too much.

From GM, Head Coach, O.C., SP coach, part time D-Cord, QB coach.

He's stretched too thin. He needs to trust his staff and let go of some control.

MechanicalBull · 01-16-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I wasn't aware that the NFL got rid of that. Well then never mind. There's one good thing about this.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0116/1493904.html

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NEW YORK -- The NFL barred teams from trading draft picks for the right to sign a coach, the type of swap that allowed the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to get Jon Gruden.

The new policy was announced in a memo to all 32 teams by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, league spokesman Greg Aiello said Thursday.

The NFL's competition committee was worried that such trades might be undermining the purpose of the draft.

That committee's co-chairman is Bucs general manager Rich McKay, who sent two first-round picks and two second-round picks, plus $8 million, to Oakland for the right to negotiate with Gruden. At the time, Gruden had a year left on his contract with the Raiders.

Aiello said the league's owners could decide at their March 23-26 meetings in Phoenix to restore a team's right to make a coach-for-picks deal.

In 1997, the New York Jets sent draft picks to New England in order to be able to hire then-Patriots coach Bill Parcells. Three years later, the Patriots gave New York draft picks so they could sign Bill Belichick, then under contract to the Jets.

Dead Head · 01-16-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HEAV

Come on Kay.

Take over the play calling? Shanny never let it go!

He stated so in this release statement.

How many more cords does Shanny have to get rid of before he gets out for being the problem?

Really you think it was Heimerdinger that called back to back FB draws at the goal line?

Shanny has to see that, since kubes left, his strong arm control hasn't worked.

It's one thing to have the boss controlling the staff and making sure they are getting the job done.

But when he steps in is wearing all the hats it's just too much.

From GM, Head Coach, O.C., SP coach, part time D-Cord, QB coach.

He's stretched too thin. He needs to trust his staff and let go of some control.

the coaches and cords don't line up in the trenches. We can't run the ball, and when you can't run the ball in our offense everything else fails.

Atwater His Ass · 01-16-2008, 05:57 PM

Depending on the title Tenn would give him, this would actually be a downward move for Dinger. Going from Assistant Head Coach to Offensive Coordinator.

rovolution · 01-16-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

Depending on the title Tenn would give him, this would actually be a downward move for Dinger. Going from Assistant Head Coach to Offensive Coordinator.

not really. the title really means nothing. he gets to design plays and call them, which he didnt get to do in Denver with Shanny running the show.

SoCalBronco · 01-16-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MechanicalBull

How would we get a pick out of this? If you are talking trade I think the NFL got rid of that after Herm going to the Chiefs..

That sucks.

montrose · 01-16-2008, 06:08 PM

I have thought we've had "too many cooks in the kitchen" with Dinger and Bates as Asst. Head Coaches of Offense and Defense, respectively, and Dennison and Slowik as the O and D Coordinators. Maybe these moves will sort some of that out. I'm not sure what to think about Dorrell possibly coming on, but I would like to see a veteran QB coach brought on to work with Jay.

Coordinators = Overrated
Position Coaches = Underrated

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

Depending on the title Tenn would give him, this would actually be a downward move for Dinger. Going from Assistant Head Coach to Offensive Coordinator.

Maybe in title, but in Tennessee, Dinger will be given free reign to run the offense whereas in Denver - he's a clear #2 to Shanny. That said, I'm sure Dinger - a guy who loves to throw the ball - will be checked into an insane asylum within two years of coaching Vince Young.

CBF1 · 01-16-2008, 06:09 PM

I guess the NFL is low on real talent for the position.

TheDave · 01-16-2008, 06:14 PM

and this strange, long offseason continues....

Kaylore · 01-16-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HEAV

Come on Kay.

Take over the play calling? Shanny never let it go!

He stated so in this release statement.

How many more cords does Shanny have to get rid of before he gets out for being the problem?

Really you think it was Heimerdinger that called back to back FB draws at the goal line?

Shanny has to see that, since kubes left, his strong arm control hasn't worked.

It's one thing to have the boss controlling the staff and making sure they are getting the job done.

But when he steps in is wearing all the hats it's just too much.

From GM, Head Coach, O.C., SP coach, part time D-Cord, QB coach.

He's stretched too thin. He needs to trust his staff and let go of some control.

You'd have to be brain dead to not see huge differences in the offense between Heimerdinger and Kubiak. I think Kubes showed he can call the plays and did so, but with Herimerdinger and Dennison Shanahan let them try and do their thing and it wasn't working and now Shanahan needs to run his system. Our offense hasn't looked like a Shanahan offense since Heimerdinger was here.

elsid13 · 01-16-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDave

and this strange, long offseason continues....

At least it ain't boring.

wolf754life · 01-16-2008, 06:36 PM

coordinators fault, not the players, not the Gm, if we just had better coaches our players wouldn't suck, if we had better players our GM wouldn't suck...........

wake up people, it all keeps circling back to the RAT!

one more year of this and we can begin anew!!!

BroncoBuff · 01-16-2008, 06:59 PM

"earlier this decade" ?!

Who wrote that article?

elsid13 · 01-16-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

"earlier this decade" ?!

Who wrote that article?

Dinger was Tenn OC from 2000 to 2004 (that earlier this decade)

DenverBrit · 01-16-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf754life

coordinators fault, not the players, not the Gm, if we just had better coaches our players wouldn't suck, if we had better players our GM wouldn't suck...........

wake up people, it all keeps circling back to the RAT!

one more year of this and we can begin anew!!!

So you won't be back?? Byeee

DenverBrit · 01-16-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

You'd have to be brain dead to not see huge differences in the offense between Heimerdinger and Kubiak. I think Kubes showed he can call the plays and did so, but with Herimerdinger and Dennison Shanahan let them try and do their thing and it wasn't working and now Shanahan needs to run his system. Our offense hasn't looked like a Shanahan offense since Heimerdinger was here.

But, but.....everyone knows that Shanny is a control freak. Are you saying he let's others coach?? That can't be right.

Traveler · 01-16-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by montrose

I have thought we've had "too many cooks in the kitchen" with Dinger and Bates as Asst. Head Coaches of Offense and Defense, respectively, and Dennison and Slowik as the O and D Coordinators. Maybe these moves will sort some of that out. I'm not sure what to think about Dorrell possibly coming on, but I would like to see a veteran QB coach brought on to work with Jay.

For all the coaches on staff, hiring an experienced QB coach for Cutler should pay major divdends.

BroncoFiend · 01-16-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Traveler

For all the coaches on staff, hiring an experienced QB coach for Cutler should pay major divdends.

This mentality I don't get, with all the faults you can pin on the Broncos the one you really can't is the development of Cutler.

In his second year, with a beat up line in front of him and a terrible defense, he put up numbers that rival the best in history at this point in his career. How could anyone have expected his development to be better so far?

HEAV · 01-16-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoFiend

This mentality I don't get, with all the faults you can pin on the Broncos the one you really can't is the development of Cutler.

In his second year, with a beat up line in front of him and a terrible defense, he put up numbers that rival the best in history at this point in his career. How could anyone have expected his development to be better so far?

Foot work, reading defense, making sure he doesn't fall into bad habits. Someone that can tutor in at being an NFL QB.

Someone that has the time to be there with him and not have other coaching duties.

worm · 01-16-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HEAV

Foot work, reading defense, making sure he doesn't fall into bad habits. Someone that can tutor in at being an NFL QB.

Someone that has the time to be there with him and not have other coaching duties.

Bring Steve Young in!

BroncoBuff · 01-16-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Dinger was Tenn OC from 2000 to 2004 (that earlier this decade)

No, I meant "earlier this decade" is terrible writing. No link, but this is a guy who would probably write that a player "inked a pact."

Sheeesh ... unworthy of Burger Bill even.

The sentence before that was just as awkward: "Heimerdinger appears to be the top choice of Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher to run the team's offense."

01-16-2008, 05:20 PM	#1
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Shanny's statement on Heimerdinger. The team asked the Broncos for permission to interview Heimerdinger to run their offense and the Broncos granted them access, Denver coach Mike Shanahan said. "The Tennessee Titans have requested consent to talk to Mike Heimerdinger about their offensive coordinator position, and we have granted them permission," Shanahan said. "The opportunity in Tennessee would give Mike the chance to go back to an organization and work with a head coach with whom he is very familiar, handling the entire offense and having full control over game-planning and play-calling responsibilities." The Titans fired offensive coordinator Norm Chow on Tuesday, and Heimerdinger appears to be the top choice of Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher to run the team's offense. Heimerdinger was a successful offensive coordinator with Tennessee earlier this decade. Heimerdinger has been the Broncos' assistant head coach in charge of offense the past two seasons. The Titans' job might entice Heimerdinger because he'd be in total charge of the unit, while Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has final say of the Denver offense. If Heimerdinger were to leave, former Broncos assistants could be candidates to replace him. One possibility would be Karl Dorrell, who recently was fired as the head coach at UCLA. Dorrell is a former wide receivers coach with Denver. Former Georgia Tech coach Chan Gailey, who might have drawn interest from the Broncos, was hired by the Kansas City Chiefs today as their offensive coordinator. ----- "The opportunity in Tennessee would give Mike the chance to go back to an organization and work with a head coach with whom he is very familiar, handling the entire offense and having full control over game-planning and play-calling responsibilities." You need to let go a little Shanny. Hanging onto the riens too tight bro. Need a new mind a fresh look a secon par of eyes.

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01-16-2008, 05:29 PM	#2
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,010 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	You're way off on this one, HEAV. Nobody let's a coordinator go to interview for another coordinator position, a lateral move, unless they want to get rid of him. The good news is we'll probably get a pick out of this. The other good news is Shanahan will be able to take over the play-calling again without worrying about offending his buddy.

01-16-2008, 05:49 PM	#5
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Come on Kay. Take over the play calling? Shanny never let it go! He stated so in this release statement. How many more cords does Shanny have to get rid of before he gets out for being the problem? Really you think it was Heimerdinger that called back to back FB draws at the goal line? Shanny has to see that, since kubes left, his strong arm control hasn't worked. It's one thing to have the boss controlling the staff and making sure they are getting the job done. But when he steps in is wearing all the hats it's just too much. From GM, Head Coach, O.C., SP coach, part time D-Cord, QB coach. He's stretched too thin. He needs to trust his staff and let go of some control.

01-16-2008, 05:57 PM	#8
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,360 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Depending on the title Tenn would give him, this would actually be a downward move for Dinger. Going from Assistant Head Coach to Offensive Coordinator.

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CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	I guess the NFL is low on real talent for the position.

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TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	and this strange, long offseason continues....

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wolf754life Bleed Orange and Blue more scoring + more tackling = $$$ Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,776	coordinators fault, not the players, not the Gm, if we just had better coaches our players wouldn't suck, if we had better players our GM wouldn't suck........... wake up people, it all keeps circling back to the RAT! one more year of this and we can begin anew!!!

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BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	"earlier this decade" ?! Who wrote that article?