Finally some good news about the national ID - The Orange Mane

baja · 01-16-2008, 12:05 PM

very Victory Makes Us Stronger -

Here's Victory Number Two

In the American Spiritual, "Jacob's Ladder" the slaves told their masters through their song, "Every victory makes us stronger" and so it does. Although the fronts on which the health freedom battle is fought are many, the issues are always the same, "Who makes the decisions about what goes into MY SKIN? Is that my choice or is it the choice of some corporate-driven government bureaucrat or doctor?

Chemotherapy? Vaccination? Herbal treatments? GM Food? Biochemically effective supplements, pesticide-free food? "Organic" that means "clean and chemical free"? Health care professionals treating me the way we both agree they can treat me without the State interfering and criminalizing my health care provider? Truthful information about how food might be able to help me? The State taking my children away because it wants to drug or vaccinate them and I do not? The answers are plain to see if you love your health and you love your freedom. That means the victories are ours and for the hope of the future! Victory Number Two is about Freedom first and health second. The Real ID bill passed recently to the howls of outrage of freedom advocates (mine included) when we said that we did not want a national ID card (a prelude to control of movement within a country with huge historical precedent - like Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russian, Apartheid South Africa, for example). We also did not want an ID card with a Radio Frequency Identification Device or RFID embedded in it which could be read from afar, activated or turned off by the government or through malicious manipulation (again, from afar), encoded with all financial, medical and other personal information, etc. Bad idea. But the government seemed hell bent for leather to force us to carry these cards regardless of our desires as part of the "war on terror" (whose terror, of course, is never discussed).

But that is not the way things turned out.

"Real ID is dead in the water, and it is clear that no amount of money can save it," said ACLU Legislative Counsel Tim Sparapani." The only solution to Real ID is to scrap it, and Congress is catching on. "With seventeen states opposed to this program and the U.S. Senate standing behind them, this is the beginning of the end of Real ID..."

The Natural Solutions Foundation joined other NGO's (nongovernmental organizations or "civil society" as it is know elsewhere in the world) to educate Congress and decision makers about the dangers to health and freedom of programs like Real ID. But the program would not have been stopped but for a loud public outcry -- People Power!

This is a People's Power victory. Alone we may appear to be "voices in the wilderness" but together we are powerful!

We are heading toward a state of siege in which the "authorities" determine what you may, may not and must do with your body and your child's. This is what Dr. Ron Paul has decried as "soft Fascism." The issues at stake can be lumped together under the heading "Health Freedom" - The authority of the state ends at my skin!

In February, 2006 I published an article called "Whose Blood Sugar is it, Anyway?" (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/docs/blood_sugar.pdf)
about the fact that if you have your blood sugar drawn in New York City, your doctor will get a letter scolding him/her if the City does not like your lab results and so will you! Vermont had already enacted the same invasive laws. (Is there any "nanny state" nonsense intervention that our regulators would think too noxious for their bureaucratic attention?) Alas, we did not rise up then and stop the process of the State Regulators taking over our bodies. So they expanded their powers considerably. This time, the time is now to take back control of our own bodies. We ignore this warning at our peril.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 01-16-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

"Real ID is dead in the water, and it is clear that no amount of money can save it," said ACLU Legislative Counsel Tim Sparapani." The only solution to Real ID is to scrap it, and Congress is catching on. "With seventeen states opposed to this program and the U.S. Senate standing behind them, this is the beginning of the end of Real ID..."

Wow - great news if true.

Bronco Bob · 01-16-2008, 10:09 PM

We don't need no stink'en ID cards.

baja · 01-16-2008, 11:21 PM

It is amazing this thread is not getting more response.

This is huge news and it's oh hum here, wow!

baja · 01-16-2008, 11:22 PM

It is amazing this thread is not getting more response.

This is huge news and it's oh hum here, wow!

alkemical · 01-17-2008, 08:10 AM

Baja,

I'm waiting on this - due to other legislation i heard was on the books about having to have it to travel by like 2010.

01-16-2008, 12:05 PM	#1
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,779 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Finally some good news about the national ID very Victory Makes Us Stronger - Here's Victory Number Two In the American Spiritual, "Jacob's Ladder" the slaves told their masters through their song, "Every victory makes us stronger" and so it does. Although the fronts on which the health freedom battle is fought are many, the issues are always the same, "Who makes the decisions about what goes into MY SKIN? Is that my choice or is it the choice of some corporate-driven government bureaucrat or doctor? Chemotherapy? Vaccination? Herbal treatments? GM Food? Biochemically effective supplements, pesticide-free food? "Organic" that means "clean and chemical free"? Health care professionals treating me the way we both agree they can treat me without the State interfering and criminalizing my health care provider? Truthful information about how food might be able to help me? The State taking my children away because it wants to drug or vaccinate them and I do not? The answers are plain to see if you love your health and you love your freedom. That means the victories are ours and for the hope of the future! Victory Number Two is about Freedom first and health second. The Real ID bill passed recently to the howls of outrage of freedom advocates (mine included) when we said that we did not want a national ID card (a prelude to control of movement within a country with huge historical precedent - like Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russian, Apartheid South Africa, for example). We also did not want an ID card with a Radio Frequency Identification Device or RFID embedded in it which could be read from afar, activated or turned off by the government or through malicious manipulation (again, from afar), encoded with all financial, medical and other personal information, etc. Bad idea. But the government seemed hell bent for leather to force us to carry these cards regardless of our desires as part of the "war on terror" (whose terror, of course, is never discussed). But that is not the way things turned out. "Real ID is dead in the water, and it is clear that no amount of money can save it," said ACLU Legislative Counsel Tim Sparapani." The only solution to Real ID is to scrap it, and Congress is catching on. "With seventeen states opposed to this program and the U.S. Senate standing behind them, this is the beginning of the end of Real ID..." The Natural Solutions Foundation joined other NGO's (nongovernmental organizations or "civil society" as it is know elsewhere in the world) to educate Congress and decision makers about the dangers to health and freedom of programs like Real ID. But the program would not have been stopped but for a loud public outcry -- People Power! This is a People's Power victory. Alone we may appear to be "voices in the wilderness" but together we are powerful! We are heading toward a state of siege in which the "authorities" determine what you may, may not and must do with your body and your child's. This is what Dr. Ron Paul has decried as "soft Fascism." The issues at stake can be lumped together under the heading "Health Freedom" - The authority of the state ends at my skin! In February, 2006 I published an article called "Whose Blood Sugar is it, Anyway?" (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/docs/blood_sugar.pdf) about the fact that if you have your blood sugar drawn in New York City, your doctor will get a letter scolding him/her if the City does not like your lab results and so will you! Vermont had already enacted the same invasive laws. (Is there any "nanny state" nonsense intervention that our regulators would think too noxious for their bureaucratic attention?) Alas, we did not rise up then and stop the process of the State Regulators taking over our bodies. So they expanded their powers considerably. This time, the time is now to take back control of our own bodies. We ignore this warning at our peril.

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01-16-2008, 10:09 PM	#3
Bronco Bob Tastee Freeze Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,464 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	We don't need no stink'en ID cards.

01-16-2008, 11:21 PM	#4
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,779 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	It is amazing this thread is not getting more response. This is huge news and it's oh hum here, wow!

01-16-2008, 11:22 PM	#5
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,779 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	It is amazing this thread is not getting more response. This is huge news and it's oh hum here, wow!

01-17-2008, 08:10 AM	#6
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,691 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Baja, I'm waiting on this - due to other legislation i heard was on the books about having to have it to travel by like 2010.