Last nights' debate. - The Orange Mane

TailgateNut · 01-16-2008, 09:45 AM

After watching the debate on MSNBC last night I have come to the conclusion that Obama and Hillary will go by the wayside and my candidate of choice will/ should get the nomination.
Get us the **** out of Iraq. Clean up the mess in DC. Kill the lobbyists! Truly support our vets (not the Repukelican version). Give power back to the middle class (the backbone of our country). Fix the healthcare mess (legalized robbery). Require our young men and women to provide some type of service to our country and make continued education affordable/available to all who wish to attend. Repeal the taxcuts for the wealthy. Have an open season on lobbyists ( free tags for each citizen)!

Opinions?

orangenblue2 · 01-16-2008, 11:00 AM

Now you're talking...

TailgateNut · 01-16-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by orangenblue2

Now you're talking...

He's been "my guy". Hopefully Hillary and Obama will continue to "argue amongst themselves" and dig a deep crater for themselves and Edwards rises above it by addressing the issues which currently affect our country.

Taco John · 01-16-2008, 11:10 AM

I used to think so, but Edwards has been finishing a lot lower than I thought he would already, and after the exit polling of the "undeclared" voters in Michigan, his campaign looks to be on life support.

I think it will be a Hillary/Obama ticket.

orangenblue2 · 01-16-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I used to think so, but Edwards has been finishing a lot lower than I thought he would already...

A second and a third place finish for Edwards is lower than you thought?

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Originally Posted by Taco John

and after the exit polling of the "undeclared" voters in Michigan, his campaign looks to be on life support.

I could be wrong, but the only exit polling that I've seen out of Michigan shows that roughly 40% of Michiganders are undecided. Exit polling data only allowed for these choices: Clinton, Kucinich, Dodd, Gravel, and undecided. If I'm wrong, could you provide a link for me?

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I think it will be a Hillary/Obama ticket.

Possible, but hardly the ideal, in my opinion...

cutthemdown · 01-16-2008, 12:33 PM

Hilliary and Obama ticket? No way after how they have attacked each other. It's like you all have never followed an election before.

at Hilliary and Obama it will never happen. Obama would rather stay in senate then be Clintons boy. Hilliary would never be vice president she would stay in Senate.

Bronco Bob · 01-16-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by orangenblue2

A second and a third place finish for Edwards is lower than you thought?

I could be wrong, but the only exit polling that I've seen out of Michigan shows that roughly 40% of Michiganders are undecided. Exit polling data only allowed for these choices: Clinton, Kucinich, Dodd, Gravel, and undecided. If I'm wrong, could you provide a link for me?

Possible, but hardly the ideal, in my opinion...

Obama and Edwards made a big effort to have their supporters vote
uncommitted, as they had taken their names off the Michigan ballot
and so their supporters couldn't vote for them. This was a way of
showing support for them vs Hillary. If the national polls are used
as a guide, the 40% uncommitted most likely went 25% Obama and
15% Edwards.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...s_n_81713.html

Chupacabra · 01-16-2008, 12:50 PM

A senate seat is usually more powerful than the VP's chair. Billary/Obama will never happen.

Anyone hear about Hillary nominating Bill to the SC?

Bronco Bob · 01-16-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

A senate seat is usually more powerful than the VP's chair. Billary/Obama will never happen.

Anyone hear about Hillary nominating Bill to the SC?

I've heard it, but I doubt it would happen. I think it's mostly just people kidding around.
He would make a good one though, the guy borders on genius.

Taco John · 01-16-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by orangenblue2

A second and a third place finish for Edwards is lower than you thought?

Yeah. I thought Edwards folks were going to show us something in Iowa by coming in first.

Bronco Bob · 01-16-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Yeah. I thought Edwards folks were going to show us something in Iowa by coming in first.

Interestingly Obama's big win in Iowa got him exactly one delegate more
than Clinton, and even though Edwards barely beat Hillary to claim second
place, Edwards actually got one less delegate than Hillary.

Candidate Delegates

Obama 16
Clinton 15
Edwards 14

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ate_count.html

TailgateNut · 01-16-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Yeah. I thought Edwards folks were going to show us something in Iowa by coming in first.

This message was brought to you by a Ron Paul supporter.

Tell me Taco, how is your wunderkind doing?

Re: Edwards. He has a much better chance at a nomination than #1 RP and #2 than people think he does. Especially if Billary and Obama keep up the "infighting".

I was however pleasantly suprised at the civility of the debate last night. They brought up more intelligent takes in 5 minutes than the whole gaggle of republicans can muster in a whole day!

TailgateNut · 01-16-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Interestingly Obama's big win in Iowa got him exactly one delegate more
than Clinton, and even though Edwards barely beat Hillary to claim second
place, Edwards actually got one less delegate than Hillary.

Candidate Delegates

Obama 16
Clinton 15
Edwards 14

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ate_count.html

Go Country Boy, GO!

Bronco Bob · 01-16-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Go Country Boy, GO!

Don't get too excited yet. Of total delegate count so far it's:

Clinton 187
Obama 124
Edwards 50

Ultimately that's what counts in the end, who gets the most delegates,
not who wins the most states. In super Tuesday, California has more
delegates then Arizona, Alabama, Connecticut, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
Kansas, New Mexico, Utah, Delaware, Idaho, and North Dakota combined.
And so far Hillary is polling strong in California, as well as New York and
New Jersey.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ate_count.html

TailgateNut · 01-16-2008, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Don't get too excited yet. Of total delegate count so far it's:

Clinton 187
Obama 124
Edwards 50

Ultimately that's what counts in the end, who gets the most delegates,
not who wins the most states. In super Tuesday, California has more
delegates then Arizona, Alabama, Connecticut, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
Kansas, New Mexico, Utah, Delaware, Idaho, and North Dakota combined.
And so far Hillary is polling strong in California, as well as New York and
New Jersey.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ate_count.html

Hey, I'm just doin' my cheer!

I'm currently planning a trip to the witchdoctor and am getting the voodoo dolls out of the closet, so if you see Billary and Obama cringe, you'll know who's behind it!

Bronco Bob · 01-16-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Hey, I'm just doin' my cheer!

I'm currently planning a trip to the witchdoctor and am getting the voodoo dolls out of the closet, so if you see Billary and Obama cringe, you'll know who's behind it!

Witch? Voodoo. Sound sort of sexist and racist to me.

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01-16-2008, 09:45 AM	#1
TailgateNut Bleedin' orange! .......as much as tebonites Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mile High Posts: 20,018 Adopt-a-Bronco: Howard Griffith	Last nights' debate. After watching the debate on MSNBC last night I have come to the conclusion that Obama and Hillary will go by the wayside and my candidate of choice will/ should get the nomination. Get us the **** out of Iraq. Clean up the mess in DC. Kill the lobbyists! Truly support our vets (not the Repukelican version). Give power back to the middle class (the backbone of our country). Fix the healthcare mess (legalized robbery). Require our young men and women to provide some type of service to our country and make continued education affordable/available to all who wish to attend. Repeal the taxcuts for the wealthy. Have an open season on lobbyists ( free tags for each citizen)! Opinions?

01-16-2008, 11:00 AM	#2
orangenblue2 High-Priced Free Agent It's a Miracle!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reality Posts: 566	Now you're talking...

01-16-2008, 11:10 AM	#4
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,704 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I used to think so, but Edwards has been finishing a lot lower than I thought he would already, and after the exit polling of the "undeclared" voters in Michigan, his campaign looks to be on life support. I think it will be a Hillary/Obama ticket.

01-16-2008, 12:33 PM	#6
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,460	Hilliary and Obama ticket? No way after how they have attacked each other. It's like you all have never followed an election before. at Hilliary and Obama it will never happen. Obama would rather stay in senate then be Clintons boy. Hilliary would never be vice president she would stay in Senate.

01-16-2008, 12:50 PM	#8
Chupacabra Goat Sucker Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 565	A senate seat is usually more powerful than the VP's chair. Billary/Obama will never happen. Anyone hear about Hillary nominating Bill to the SC?