Why I support John Edwards as president

[Meck77]

Discuss....

[Spider]

John Edwards ? naw probably not ....... The only reason I will vote for him is because he wont win ...... I wont skip an election , I dont have anyone else to vote for ......

[Meck77]

Ok I changed the thread title. This should be more appropriate.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by Spider

John Edwards ? naw probably not ....... The only reason I will vote for him is because he wont win ...... I wont skip an election , I dont have anyone else to vote for ......

That's BS spider. You have to do better than that. You are dropping dozens of posts here everyday slamming anyone in sight yet you can't even come up with 10 reasons why you are voting for Edwards over another candidate?

Come on Spider. 1-10. I don't know much about Edwards to be honest. Educate me.

[Hotrod]

His hair is better then billarys........thats something I guess

[theAPAOps5]

Edwards is more of an attractive woman than Hillary.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Edwards is more of an attractive woman than Hillary.

TheDave would hit it..............I kid I kid

[Meck77]

Come on Spider. Time to "MAN UP" as you say....

http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samples...gle.php?id=420 Great tune here Spider. Hit play!

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Edwards is more of an attractive woman than Hillary.

Yes, but Obama is prettier than either of them.

[orangenblue2]

OK, Meck. Here's my Top 10:
1. He comes from a solid and authentic blue-collar, middle-class background.
2. He is a self-made man. He wasn't given anything in life...he earned it.
3. He made his money by representing the poor, the defenseless, the over-matched, the voiceless, and the victimized.
4. He recognizes and has vowed to fight against the stranglehold that huge corporations, lobbyists, and PAC's have on our everyday lives.
5. He refuses to take any money from the same.
6. He believes that every American deserves affordable health coverage...as do I.
7. He believes that the US Tax Code is inherently unfair, and punishes working, struggling, middle-class families...like mine.
8. He believes that the US must "reengage" with the rest of the world, and strive to reclaim that moral and ethical "high ground" that we've wasted and lost. Throughout our short history as a nation, the United States has shone like a beacon of excellence for all of the other countries on Earth. John Edwards wants that distinction back for our us...as do I.
9. This sumb**** is a fighter without an ounce of quit in him. Unlike most politicians these days, when Edwards speaks about the issues that he cares about, I believe him.
10. This one is purely personal, but...the Edwards' have gone through the agony of losing a child, not only emerging from it, but dedicating both of their lives to making the US and the world, a better place for all of the children living now, as well as the ones yet to be born. Isn't that what is truly most important?

I would invite anyone who likes these ideas to have a look for themselves at:

http://www.johnedwards.com

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Meck77

That's BS spider. You have to do better than that. You are dropping dozens of posts here everyday slamming anyone in sight yet you can't even come up with 10 reasons why you are voting for Edwards over another candidate?

Come on Spider. 1-10. I don't know much about Edwards to be honest. Educate me.

why ? I dont believe that much in Edwards ... why do I have to believe in any of the **** heads running ?
Edwards is a rat like the rest of them , he is a ****ing politician now what that means is , he will look you in the eye smile shake your hand , then if it means more votes , he will stab you in the back ..........We havent had a decent president since JFK ......

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Come on Spider. Time to "MAN UP" as you say....

http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samples...gle.php?id=420 Great tune here Spider. Hit play!

why ? are you suggesting I go all out defend Edwards every move cause I dont like the rest of them ? WTF kind of logic is that ?
No I wont do like the republicans did in defense of Bush ........

[Spider]

Originally Posted by orangenblue2

OK, Meck. Here's my Top 10:
1. He comes from a solid and authentic blue-collar, middle-class background.
2. He is a self-made man. He wasn't given anything in life...he earned it.
3. He made his money by representing the poor, the defenseless, the over-matched, the voiceless, and the victimized.
4. He recognizes and has vowed to fight against the stranglehold that huge corporations, lobbyists, and PAC's have on our everyday lives.
5. He refuses to take any money from the same.
6. He believes that every American deserves affordable health coverage...as do I.
7. He believes that the US Tax Code is inherently unfair, and punishes working, struggling, middle-class families...like mine.
8. He believes that the US must "reengage" with the rest of the world, and strive to reclaim that moral and ethical "high ground" that we've wasted and lost. Throughout our short history as a nation, the United States has shone like a beacon of excellence for all of the other countries on Earth. John Edwards wants that distinction back for our us...as do I.
9. This sumb**** is a fighter without an ounce of quit in him. Unlike most politicians these days, when Edwards speaks about the issues that he cares about, I believe him.
10. This one is purely personal, but...the Edwards' have gone through the agony of losing a child, not only emerging from it, but dedicating both of their lives to making the US and the world, a better place for all of the children living now, as well as the ones yet to be born. Isn't that what is truly most important?

I would invite anyone who likes these ideas to have a look for themselves at:

http://www.johnedwards.com

Yeah what he said meck .......

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by Spider

why ? are you suggesting I go all out defend Edwards every move cause I dont like the rest of them ? WTF kind of logic is that ?
No I wont do like the republicans did in defense of Bush ........

Uh Spider see Orangeandblue2's post and thread title. Stating facts or opinions about why you support a candidate really isn't a trick question even though you make think it is. It's ok Spider the Edwards supporters will answer the question when they see this thread.

I've known you for a long time and can appreciate (Some) of your smak but I'm really hoping that the right candidate comes out of this election and turns our country around.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Uh Spider see Orangeandblue2's post and thread title. Stating facts about why you support a candidate really isn't a trick question even though you make think it is.

no I know it isnt a trick question , but what are my choices ? Hillary , Obama , Huckabee ( sounds like a fast food joint ) Romny , Mccain ...... color me thrilled ...... Edwards about the only encouraging thing I can say about Edwards is , He married well , Elizabeth is one hellva woman ......

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by Spider

no I know it isnt a trick question , but what are my choices ? Hillary , Obama , Huckabee ( sounds like a fast food joint ) Romny , Mccain ...... color me thrilled ...... Edwards about the only encouraging thing I can say about Edwards is , He married well , Elizabeth is one hellva woman ......

ok then fair enough.....

Spider supports Spider for President in 2008.....Sounds like Javon.

Give me your top 10 ways to turn this country around and explain to me why Edwards is the closest match for you.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Meck77

ok then fair enough.....

Spider supports Spider for President in 2008.....Sound like Javon.

Give me your top 10 ways to turn this country around how you see fit and explain to me why that Edwards is the closest match for you.

The Spider would want this .....
1A. Universal Healthcare , not Canadas system but the French system ..
1B. we rebuild our Military , and we give them the health care they deserve
2. The Spider says .. more Nookler Power plants .........
3. We force Mexico to take back Texas ..... could lead to war .....
4. we allow Pot for the terminaly Ill .. what the hell they will be dead soon , nit like they will be knocking off liquior stores ...
5. we find alternitive fuel sources ...
6. Child care services .......this is huge alot of single income familys get their asses kicked here ..
7. We rebuild the middle class
8. We shít can Chinas MNF status ... screw em , the yeither play by the law , of they can take their **** back home ....
9. NAFTA , we scale some of that back ....
10. No more tax breaks for companies outsourcing our Jobs ....still cant figure that one out ......
.Ok the texas thing maybe a little much , but the rest I am serious about ....I dont have a freaking clue as to where Edwards stands on this .......

[Spider]

And if that isnt good enough how about this ...........Edwards is the only candidate who isn't bat****-crazy-religious, wasn't born-with-a-silver-spoon-in-his-mouth, isn't in-bed-with-the-corporations, and believes in power-to-the-effin-workin-man champion that we have...and thats why you will support him...:

[Bob]

[QUOTE=orangenblue2;1847365]OK, Meck. Here's my Top 10:
1. He comes from a solid and authentic blue-collar, middle-class background.
Yup, true.

2. He is a self-made man. He wasn't given anything in life...he earned it.

So how is it earning it? -- when he through his slick talking is able to channel millions from companies, through various lawsuits? Taking millions from folks does not seem to be earning anything -- its like investing, gambling, or stealing.

3. He made his money by representing the poor, the defenseless, the over-matched, the voiceless, and the victimized.
Yes, he made his millions out of the goodness of his heart.

4. He recognizes and has vowed to fight against the stranglehold that huge corporations, lobbyists, and PAC's have on our everyday lives.
Yes,big business is bad -- I say do away with them all -- "welcome to the USSR, you dont know how lucky you are..."

5. He refuses to take any money from the same.
Great if true -- back it up, if you can.

6. He believes that every American deserves affordable health coverage...as do I.
Yes, we can afford it conisidering we are collectively $400,000 per American in debt.
7. He believes that the US Tax Code is inherently unfair, and punishes working, struggling, middle-class families...like mine.
I do believe that he wants folks to feel that everyone is out to get them, and to playup the victim mentality, which ensures folks will stay victims.

10. This one is purely personal, but...the Edwards' have gone through the agony of losing a child, not only emerging from it, but dedicating both of their lives to making the US and the world, a better place for all of the children living now, as well as the ones yet to be born. Isn't that what is truly most important?
Seems true, his wife also is dealing with some difficult medical issues as well -- I certainly wish him well in this area.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by orangenblue2

OK, Meck. Here's my Top 10:
1. He comes from a solid and authentic blue-collar, middle-class background.
2. He is a self-made man. He wasn't given anything in life...he earned it.
3. He made his money by representing the poor, the defenseless, the over-matched, the voiceless, and the victimized.
4. He recognizes and has vowed to fight against the stranglehold that huge corporations, lobbyists, and PAC's have on our everyday lives.
5. He refuses to take any money from the same.
6. He believes that every American deserves affordable health coverage...as do I.
7. He believes that the US Tax Code is inherently unfair, and punishes working, struggling, middle-class families...like mine.
8. He believes that the US must "reengage" with the rest of the world, and strive to reclaim that moral and ethical "high ground" that we've wasted and lost. Throughout our short history as a nation, the United States has shone like a beacon of excellence for all of the other countries on Earth. John Edwards wants that distinction back for our us...as do I.
9. This sumb**** is a fighter without an ounce of quit in him. Unlike most politicians these days, when Edwards speaks about the issues that he cares about, I believe him.
10. This one is purely personal, but...the Edwards' have gone through the agony of losing a child, not only emerging from it, but dedicating both of their lives to making the US and the world, a better place for all of the children living now, as well as the ones yet to be born. Isn't that what is truly most important?

I would invite anyone who likes these ideas to have a look for themselves at:

http://www.johnedwards.com

Great post!

I admire all of these things about Edwards too.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Spider

And if that isnt good enough how about this ...........Edwards is the only candidate who isn't bat****-crazy-religious, wasn't born-with-a-silver-spoon-in-his-mouth, isn't in-bed-with-the-corporations, and believes in power-to-the-effin-workin-man champion that we have...and thats why you will support him...:

Really? Richardson, Clinton, McCain, and Thompson are crazy religious?

[orangeatheist]

Originally Posted by orangenblue2

4. He recognizes and has vowed to fight against the stranglehold that huge corporations, lobbyists, and PAC's have on our everyday lives.
5. He refuses to take any money from the same.

This cracks me up.

Against huge corporations, lobbyists and PACs, refusing to take their money. But, if voted in, will carry along with him the entire Democratic coalition including Big Labor, the Teacher's Union, Environmentalists, etc. All with deep pockets and willing to pay to get what they want.

Come on guys, when are you going to learn? The President isn't King. He won't be elected to office and then run the show as he ran on his platform. He's merely a member of a Party and will go along with all that Party represents. So, do you think it really matters who the Democratic or Republican nominee is? Whoever it is you're voting in a Party and its Coalition. All this lipservice is just a way to get elected.

And all of you who want to throw away your vote because no one's quite good enough, you're deluded. What you're really saying is you are going to give your vote to your opposition. Think of all the folks who didn't like Bush or Gore in 2000. Who did a bunch of those guys vote for? They certainly didn't like Bush. They were more to the Left than that. So where did their votes go? Nader. You know what that did? That got someone even further away from their agenda elected than if they had simply held their nose and cast a vote for Gore. At least then they would have a had a more Left-leaning President in office than a more Right-leaning one. They may not have liked Gore but it's a two Party system, like it or not. And a "protest" or "throw away" vote in the long run simply gets someone further away from your position elected to office.

Quit voting personality and vote for Party agenda. You like the major platforms the Democrats stand for? Vote Democrat regardless of who represents. You prefer the Republican platforms? Vote for the Republican regardless of who it is.

[theAPAOps5]

Originally Posted by Spider

6. Child care services .......this is huge alot of single income familys get their asses kicked here ..

Spider I agree with most of what you said except this. Why should the government provide for child care support. Its your choice to have a child or not it shouldn't be the governments responsibility if you can't take care of your choice. I'm not trying to start a fight just curious why this would be an issue.

I can totally understand health care because too often people are stricken with something they can't care for. It should be available to them.

But having a child is a choice you make no matter what thats where I can't fathom government or my tax dollars being spent on a service.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Spider I agree with most of what you said except this. Why should the government provide for child care support. Its your choice to have a child or not it shouldn't be the governments responsibility if you can't take care of your choice. I'm not trying to start a fight just curious why this would be an issue.
I can totally understand health care because too often people are stricken with something they can't care for. It should be available to them.
But having a child is a choice you make no matter what thats where I can't fathom government or my tax dollars being spent on a service.

Because only the middle class and wealthy can afford health services and child care in this country. Just because people have children who shouldn't have or can't afford to doesn't mean we should throw away these children (millions of them now).

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Spider I agree with most of what you said except this. Why should the government provide for child care support. Its your choice to have a child or not it shouldn't be the governments responsibility if you can't take care of your choice. I'm not trying to start a fight just curious why this would be an issue.

I can totally understand health care because too often people are stricken with something they can't care for. It should be available to them.

But having a child is a choice you make no matter what thats where I can't fathom government or my tax dollars being spent on a service.

No I understand your thinking on this . but there are alot single familys not working cause the cost of daycare , now either we can spend Money and welfare helping these people or we can offer help in day care and let these people work .... pretty much a slam dunk