So how do we fix those lines then? (PLEASE READ CAREFULLY) - The Orange Mane

chrisp · 12-29-2007, 05:02 PM

We can all agree that there is one glaring area where we need improvement - and that is the lines, both lines.

So clearly going into the offseason that should be our #1 priority, however the key question is HOW.

Now before you all leap in with the obvious answers there are rules to this thread: You must carefully consider the following two points before posting:

1) very very little true free-agent talent hits the market these days. True top-notch guys (the type we need) get signed before the free-agency period begins. The guys that hit the market will all have some kind of question-mark against them, even if it is only a small one...

2) Even the best draft choices on the line usually take 2-3 years to really find their feet and start to play. Its not uncommon to find even future pro-bowlers riding the pine most of their first year.

So, can you honestly say that taking both of the above factors into account there is an answer for us this offseason? Please consider your answer carefully.....

PLOWHORSE · 12-29-2007, 05:49 PM

Probably.

Spider · 12-29-2007, 05:50 PM

we cut Walker , trade Champ , and get Ocho Droppo ... jeez get a clue already ........oh and fire Shanny bring in the almight and super great coach Cowher aka the chin, who will bring in the great Foneco .....

SDRaiderH8er · 12-29-2007, 05:58 PM

Maybe you can lobby the NFL to bring back your illegal blocking “Techniques”. That way you can start to win more games by breaking players ankles.

FantomForce · 12-29-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider

we cut Walker , trade Champ , and get Ocho Droppo ... jeez get a clue already ........oh and fire Shanny bring in the almight and super great coach Cowher aka the chin .....

Spider · 12-29-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SDRaiderH8er

Maybe you can lobby the NFL to bring back your illegal blocking “Techniques”. That way you can start to win more games by breaking players ankles.

this is just a guess , but did you forget to take any meds today ?

SoCalBronco · 12-29-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider

we cut Walker , trade Champ , and get Ocho Droppo ... jeez get a clue already ........oh and fire Shanny bring in the almight and super great coach Cowher aka the chin .....

You forgot signing Foneco.

Florida_Bronco · 12-29-2007, 06:14 PM

Right now I only really see us having trouble at offensive and defensive tackles. We are pretty solid with our offensive interior and we have young talent to develop at defensive end.

At offensive tackle, Lepsis had a rough year BUT he may bounce back some next year, hopefully giving us a year or two to groom someone behind him. I really think our 1st round pick will be our LT of the future. We have Harris waiting in the wings at RT and according to Wabbit the staff is very pleased with what he brings to the table.

Defensive tackle concerns me. As you said, it's uncommon for rookies to really come in and light it up on the lines, so we need to get a FA here, and I really like Corey Williams from Green Bay. I think signing Williams (or a comparable player) and drafting a DT should leave us with enough depth for us to make a good push.

Florida_Bronco · 12-29-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SDRaiderH8er

Maybe you can lobby the NFL to bring back your illegal blocking “Techniques”. That way you can start to win more games by breaking players ankles.

This post is just full of garbage. Our blocking scheme is not illegal (never has been, never will be) and even your team runs it at times. With the exception of that guy from the Bengals, we have never injured a player with cut blocking.

2KBack · 12-29-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

This post is just full of garbage. Our blocking scheme is not illegal (never has been, never will be) and even your team runs it at times. With the exception of that guy from the Bengals, we have never injured a player with cut blocking.

Dude, ignore, the guy has less than a hundred posts in almost 5 years and he has posted 50 of those in the past week. He is a front running troll.

Florida_Bronco · 12-29-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

Dude, ignore, the guy has less than a hundred posts in almost 5 years and he has posted 50 of those in the past week. He is a front running troll.

Good point. I guess I was too tempted to point out all the inaccuracies in his post.

Spider · 12-29-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

You forgot signing Foneco.

I dont know how I could forget Foneco ........

I hope Foneco forgives me

SDRaiderH8er · 12-29-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

This post is just full of garbage. Our blocking scheme is not illegal (never has been, never will be) and even your team runs it at times. With the exception of that guy from the Bengals, we have never injured a player with cut blocking.

would you like a list of every ankle that has been broken while the defensive team was on the field, and the Broncos were on offense?

Spider · 12-29-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

You forgot signing Foneco.

i fixed it , I hope Foneco doesnt notice

Spider · 12-29-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SDRaiderH8er

would you like a list of every ankle that has been broken while the defensive team was on the field, and the Broncos were on offense?

I doubt you can count past 3 without help from the puter ....... But I am sure mom and Dad are proud of you anyway .......

chrisp · 12-29-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SDRaiderH8er

would you like a list of every ankle that has been broken while the defensive team was on the field, and the Broncos were on offense?

Thanks for ****ing up my thread ****head. This had promise before you got involved, now its headed for the horses' butt.

Charger troll filling the vacuum created by the Cheifs and Raiders both sucking in the same season......

chrisp · 12-29-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Right now I only really see us having trouble at offensive and defensive tackles. We are pretty solid with our offensive interior and we have young talent to develop at defensive end.

At offensive tackle, Lepsis had a rough year BUT he may bounce back some next year, hopefully giving us a year or two to groom someone behind him. I really think our 1st round pick will be our LT of the future. We have Harris waiting in the wings at RT and according to Wabbit the staff is very pleased with what he brings to the table.

Defensive tackle concerns me. As you said, it's uncommon for rookies to really come in and light it up on the lines, so we need to get a FA here, and I really like Corey Williams from Green Bay. I think signing Williams (or a comparable player) and drafting a DT should leave us with enough depth for us to make a good push.

have to say I agree with you there, and thanks for providing the kind of considered response I was looking for.

I do happen to think that quality FA DTs are hard ot find, but easier to find than quality FA Offensive LTs. Now we have our franchise QB via the draft we need to be looking for out franchise LT via the same route.

NFLBRONCO · 12-29-2007, 06:43 PM

Definately get started on upgrading OT and DT spots. This is a 2 or 3 year rebuild so that gives OL time to develop by the time we are real solid.

Blueflame · 12-29-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider

i fixed it , I hope Foneco doesnt notice

Yeah...if he does notice, he might "smite" you...

2KBack · 12-29-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisp

have to say I agree with you there, and thanks for providing the kind of considered response I was looking for.

I do happen to think that quality FA DTs are hard ot find, but easier to find than quality FA Offensive LTs. Now we have our franchise QB via the draft we need to be looking for out franchise LT via the same route.

How often do rookie OT's make an impact? I want to say that you have a better chance of finding a rookie OL to contribute than a rookie DT. Though I guess it could be argued that the young guys on both lines may improve.

Spider · 12-29-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame

Yeah...if he does notice, he might "smite" you...

I hope not , I already have a date for new years

Blueflame · 12-29-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider

I hope not , I already have a date for new years

On a more serious note, I hope the coaches have learned their lesson re: signing over-the-hill, overweight DTs like Sam Adams and Simeon Rice... that experiment failed craptacularly...

Los Broncos · 12-29-2007, 07:03 PM

To me the o-line comes first, we have been so bad the last few games.

We did ok earlier in the year, but we need some serious beef up front.

With Moss hopefully coming back healthy, we need a big, run stuffing DT.

SDRaiderH8er · 12-29-2007, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp

Thanks for ****ing up my thread ****head. This had promise before you got involved, now its headed for the horses' butt.

Charger troll filling the vacuum created by the Cheifs and Raiders both sucking in the same season......

Spider · 12-29-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame

On a more serious note, I hope the coaches have learned their lesson re: signing over-the-hill, overweight DTs like Sam Adams and Simeon Rice... that experiment failed craptacularly...

Lets hope so

12-29-2007, 05:50 PM	#3
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12-29-2007, 05:02 PM	#1
chrisp Friend of the unsung Not into the football......yet Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 1,304 Adopt-a-Bronco: Danny Trevathan	So how do we fix those lines then? (PLEASE READ CAREFULLY) We can all agree that there is one glaring area where we need improvement - and that is the lines, both lines. So clearly going into the offseason that should be our #1 priority, however the key question is HOW. Now before you all leap in with the obvious answers there are rules to this thread: You must carefully consider the following two points before posting: 1) very very little true free-agent talent hits the market these days. True top-notch guys (the type we need) get signed before the free-agency period begins. The guys that hit the market will all have some kind of question-mark against them, even if it is only a small one... 2) Even the best draft choices on the line usually take 2-3 years to really find their feet and start to play. Its not uncommon to find even future pro-bowlers riding the pine most of their first year. So, can you honestly say that taking both of the above factors into account there is an answer for us this offseason? Please consider your answer carefully.....

12-29-2007, 05:49 PM	#2
PLOWHORSE Who wants LOBSTER!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 711 Adopt-a-Bronco: Is FONECO taken	Probably.

12-29-2007, 05:58 PM	#4
SDRaiderH8er Solid Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 169	Maybe you can lobby the NFL to bring back your illegal blocking “Techniques”. That way you can start to win more games by breaking players ankles.

12-29-2007, 06:14 PM	#8
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	Right now I only really see us having trouble at offensive and defensive tackles. We are pretty solid with our offensive interior and we have young talent to develop at defensive end. At offensive tackle, Lepsis had a rough year BUT he may bounce back some next year, hopefully giving us a year or two to groom someone behind him. I really think our 1st round pick will be our LT of the future. We have Harris waiting in the wings at RT and according to Wabbit the staff is very pleased with what he brings to the table. Defensive tackle concerns me. As you said, it's uncommon for rookies to really come in and light it up on the lines, so we need to get a FA here, and I really like Corey Williams from Green Bay. I think signing Williams (or a comparable player) and drafting a DT should leave us with enough depth for us to make a good push.

12-29-2007, 06:43 PM	#18
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,425	Definately get started on upgrading OT and DT spots. This is a 2 or 3 year rebuild so that gives OL time to develop by the time we are real solid.

12-29-2007, 07:03 PM	#23
Los Broncos Flaw Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 18,803 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	To me the o-line comes first, we have been so bad the last few games. We did ok earlier in the year, but we need some serious beef up front. With Moss hopefully coming back healthy, we need a big, run stuffing DT.