The Offical "Positive" Thread

[no-pseudo-fan]

I am just as sick as the rest of you when it comes to the games this year.
So lets put some positive things together as we more forward into a long off season. Here is my positive thoughts:

I did see some good things. I think that Thomas played well, and DJ was very good last night. He blew up some holes and ran to open spaces well.

I don't think that we are that far off. One DT, one LB, one Safety on Defense would fix things on that side. As for the offense, we need 1 OL, maybe 2. We just need to get healthy

I like the young guys that we have on this team, and we just need to add some talent at a couple of spots. When we pull it all together, we will forget this year and chalk it up to a transition year.

[BlaK-Argentina]

Originally Posted by no-pseudo-fan

I am just as sick as the rest of you when it comes to the games this year.
So lets put some positive things together as we more forward into a long off season. Here is my positive thoughts:

I did see some good things. I think that Thomas played well, and DJ was very good last night. He blew up some holes and ran to open spaces well.

I don't think that we are that far off. One DT, one LB, one Safety on Defense would fix things on that side. As for the offense, we need 1 OL, maybe 2. We just need to get healthy

I like the young guys that we have on this team, and we just need to add some talent at a couple of spots. When we pull it all together, we will forget this year and chalk it up to a transition year.

Definitely. I haven't even read all the sky is falling threads. This is not our year, never has been, and it's been a very un-Broncos like season.

Injuries and bad breaks had plagued us from day one, but next year will be a completely different story.

[Mountain Bronco]

Dude, injuries and bad breaks aside, our players just aren't that good. There are some positives (Cutler, Marshal, Stockley, Champ) so hopefully we can get some better OLine protection and beef up the front next year.

[broncos-rock]

I like how Mallard has played along the d-line, he is a guy that plays hard on every play hopefully will get a shot to make the team next year!

[BlaK-Argentina]

Originally Posted by Mountain Bronco

Dude, injuries and bad breaks aside, our players just aren't that good. There are some positives (Cutler, Marshal, Stockley, Champ) so hopefully we can get some better OLine protection and beef up the front next year.

I prefer to stay positive. I know that is forbidden on this board but I could care less.

I see bad teams rise and play very well the next year all the time, I think we have the core to do something good, we just need a couple of players here and there, specially at the lines.

GO BRONCOS.

[Mountain Bronco]

I am positive, but realistic.

[BleedingOrange]

Most people on this board had unrealistic expectations of this team coming into this season.

When your offensive line has two first year starters (one calling your oline adjustments), a second year starter playing in a different position, a free agent pick-up, and one comming back off injury you are going to have trouble.

Throw in a QB starting his first full season, his two familiar weapons are both second year players and one was sidelined with injuries early in camp and this is a set-up for disaster on offense. Cutler never had a healthy compliment of weapons. Not one player on offense has started the last two full seasons. We changed over 10 of 11 and that leads to no consistancy.

Next year Cutler will be entering his third year, this is the year that he should finally grasp the offense (Elway's third year in this offense was impressive). I Believe that Shanahan was calling plays with an adhoc oline and young QB in mind. This lead to some frustrating calls this year, but no one can question that Cutler has come along rather well for a young QB and I think Shanahan deserves some of the credit. The most important improvement that I am looking for is audibles. Cutler needs to be able to change the play when the D is stacked against it. With the extra experience from this year, he should be able to attack what the D is giving. It should also help him make faster decisions and get rid of the ball.

Brandon Marshall and Scheffler will both be entering their third year. This is when recievers tend to hit their full potential. If this team is healthy, they will have weapons in Marshall, Walker, Stokely, and Scheffler. Throw in a capable Graham and this team can put up some points.

On the ground, Henry looked good early this year before the injuries and drug test results. Hopefully he will return to form, add in a years experience for Young and Hall and our running attack should put up some numbers.

Oline, the interior should get better with experience and continuity. I'm not to concerned about them. I don't see a rookie playing OT for this team. I believe that we'll see a FA OT or two brought in to compete. Of course, Lepsis may come back next year and play up to his usual level. Pears may improve or Harris could work his way into the line-up. I have no doubt that the team will look to improve in this area. If Nalen comes back, we can either shift Meyers to guard or have a quality back up that has some game time. I doubt Hamilton will be back.

[BleedingOrange]

On defense, The line should look better next year. Dumervil is still learning and I don't think we've seen his best yet. Crowder looked good early, but the long season has taken a toll on the rookies as they are not used to playing this many games. Thomas is in the same boat. I think we can expect some improvement from them next year. Moss looked promising before the injury, I hope he can return and show why we made him our top draft choice. We have some role players in Mallard and Peterson, but need at least one starting tackle.

LBs. I think we see two different LBs next season. DJ being the one left. I wouldn't mind seeing Winborn get an opportunity to start. I expect at least one LB in the draft and one or more in FA. They may bring back one or two of the SLB that were injured in camp. LB is one of the positions that a rookie can come in and make an impact.

We have corners covered in Bly and Bailey once we fix the line. At safety, Abdullah should get better with playing time, but I'm concerned about Ramadan. The last two years, he hasn't played much during that time. The other slot is open. I wouldn't mind seeing Cargile get a shot as he seemed to make plays in the preseason. We could see a FA or draft one. Again, safety is one of the positions that a rookie can come in and impact right away.

The coaching staff has added some players during the season that have contributed and look good. The defensive players we drafted seem to be working out. The FA pick-ups didn't work out that well, but I think they were brought in to play Bates normal scheme and when it didn't work out were shown the door. Hopefully with another off season to add his players and being more familiar with what he has, Bates will improve this Defense.

[oubronco]

just beef up the lines for once! nothing but meanass mad playing trench mongrols that dominate would fuggin kickass

[Sassy]

Does anyone else think Bly sucks?

[oubronco]

Originally Posted by Sassy

Does anyone else think Bly sucks?

i think everyone knows it but will they admit it ............probably not

[Garcia Bronco]

Bly doesn't suck...but if you're going to compare him to Champ...or forget the fact that he plays with Champ....it's hard to be that guy across from Champ...because they are looking at you first. Darrent Williams had no where near the accomplishments of Dre Bly, nor the skill, but he looked just as bad at times

[2KBack]

Originally Posted by Sassy

Does anyone else think Bly sucks?

He certainly got burned a lot this season, but now that I've calmed down and thought about it, Champ got burned a lot his first year in Denver. I think it takes a little time to settle into a new defense.

[oubronco]

Originally Posted by 2KBack

He certainly got burned a lot this season, but now that I've calmed down and thought about it, Champ got burned a lot his first year in Denver. I think it takes a little time to settle into a new defense.

champ got burned quite a bit this year! go figure

[broncos-rock]

I thought this was a positive thread!!!What happened?

[Los Broncos]

Now that the SD game is out of my system.

I'm looking forward to our final game sunday.

There are showing double headers on both FOX and CBS, im hoping they show our game, but i doubt it.

[BMF Bronco]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Bly doesn't suck...but if you're going to compare him to Champ...or forget the fact that he plays with Champ....it's hard to be that guy across from Champ...because they are looking at you first. Darrent Williams had no where near the accomplishments of Dre Bly, nor the skill, but he looked just as bad at times

Ha, you just sounded like Bud off of Kill Bill 2. If you're gonna compare a Hanzo sword, you compare it to every other sword ever made... that wasn't made by Hattori Hanzo.

[Florida_Bronco]

Originally Posted by Sassy

Does anyone else think Bly sucks?

Probably, but they would be very, very wrong.

[broncosteven]

I am positive that next year can't be this bad.

...can it?

[Drek]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Bly doesn't suck...but if you're going to compare him to Champ...or forget the fact that he plays with Champ....it's hard to be that guy across from Champ...because they are looking at you first. Darrent Williams had no where near the accomplishments of Dre Bly, nor the skill, but he looked just as bad at times

I hate to speak ill of the dearly departed, but Bly has looked significantly better this year to me than Darrent ever did.

With basically no pass rush Bly has at least had a few games where he was very effective (like the Steelers game), and he's been playing with a bad shoulder most of the season now. Williams had a bit more effective front seven to work with and still only had good quarters and halves, there were very few complete games where Williams didn't make a few mistakes that cost this defense.

I know Bly is new and he got paid so everyone is taking shots at him, but he's a better player than most give him credit for on here. Put a legitimate front seven out there so he isn't asked to tackle RBs all day and we'll probably see a significantly better level of production from him.

[BroncoBuff]

My POSITIVE takes:

1. We are LOADED at e v e r y offensive skill position - Solid 2+ deep at every spot (if you like Glen Martinez like I do anyway). Aside from maybe a veteran 3-down FB, I don't think we need ANY offensive skill people. None.

2. We are LOADED at cornerback - Solid 2+ deep at both spots. I do not agree that Bly sucks. His tackling sucks, but he's very good in coverage, and has shown undeniable talent at forcing turnovers.

3. We are LOADED at Defensive End - Solid 2-3 deep at both spots. I realize this wil strike many as a dubious claim, but Click Here to see my reasoning. We have 1 borderline elite DE, one solid, tough veteren (Ekuban), two talented top rookies, and one solid running-down DE who's already starting. So that's 5 right there.

4. D.J. Williams is a stud. It hurts my insides to watch the other guy - the one I begged us to trade up for - come into the league and as a rookie and effortlessly become the best MLB in all of football hands down. But DJ's development is a pretty good consolation prize. And it turns out this year's #1 pick will be very high ... so I'm glad we kept it.

5. Hamza missed a lotta time, but I'm trusting John Lynch and smalltowngrll that he's a star in the making. So a healthy Hamza Abdullah - teamed with a healthy Lynch - should push our safety corps solidly into the 'above average' range.

Okay, our DTs are the worst in the league, the OLBs are a mess, the O-Line unit is experiencing transitional nightmares, and John Lynch might retire and screw everything up .... but these are excellent positive points we should all be optimistic about.

In this thread anyway.

[oubronco]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

My POSITIVE takes:

1. We are LOADED at e v e r y offensive skill position - Solid 2+ deep at every spot (if you like Glen Martinez like I do anyway). Aside from maybe a veteran 3-down FB, I don't think we need ANY offensive skill people. None.

2. We are LOADED at cornerback - Solid 2+ deep at both spots. I do not agree that Bly sucks. His tackling sucks, but he's very good in coverage, and has shown undeniable talent at forcing turnovers.

3. We are LOADED at Defensive End - Solid 2-3 deep at both spots. I realize this wil strike many as a dubious claim, but Click Here to see my reasoning. We have 1 borderline elite DE, one solid, tough veteren (Ekuban), two talented top rookies, and one solid running-down DE who's already starting. So that's 5 right there.

4. D.J. Williams is a stud. It hurts my insides to watch the other guy - the one I begged us to trade up for - come into the league and as a rookie and effortlessly become the best MLB in all of football hands down. But DJ's development is a pretty good consolation prize. And it turns out this year's #1 pick will be very high ... so I'm glad we kept it.

5. Hamza missed a lotta time, but I'm trusting John Lynch and smalltowngrll that he's a star in the making. So a healthy Hamza Abdullah - teamed with a healthy Lynch - should push our safety corps solidly into the 'above average' range.

Okay, our DTs are the worst in the league, the OLBs are a mess, the O-Line unit is experiencing transitional nightmares, and John Lynch might retire and screw everything up .... but these are excellent positive points we should all be optimistic about.

In this thread anyway.

i like the optimism and those are some good points

[orinjkrush]

schedule will help.
regression towards the mean will help.
hopefully the draft will help.