Huckaturd's son hangs a dog.

[24champ]

As Mike Huckabee gains in the polls, the former Arkansas governor is finding that his record in office is getting more scrutiny. One issue likely to get attention is his handling of a sensitive family matter: allegations that one of his sons was involved in the hanging of a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp in 1998. The incident led to the dismissal of David Huckabee, then 17, from his job as a counselor at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, Ark. It also prompted the local prosecuting attorney— bombarded with complaints generated by a national animal-rights group—to write a letter to the Arkansas state police seeking help investigating whether David and another teenager had violated state animal-cruelty laws. The state police never granted the request, and no charges were ever filed. But John Bailey, then the director of Arkansas's state police, tells NEWSWEEK that Governor Huckabee's chief of staff and personal lawyer both leaned on him to write a letter officially denying the local prosecutor's request. Bailey, a career officer who had been appointed chief by Huckabee's Democratic predecessor, said he viewed the lawyer's intervention as improper and terminated the conversation. Seven months later, he was called into Huckabee's office and fired. "I've lost confidence in your ability to do your job," Bailey says Huckabee told him. One reason Huckabee cited was "I couldn't get you to help me with my son when I had that problem," according to Bailey. "Without question, [Huckabee] was making a conscious attempt to keep the state police from investigating his son," says I. C. Smith, the former FBI chief in Little Rock, who worked closely with Bailey and called him a "courageous" and "very solid" professional.

Huckabee called Bailey's account "totally untrue" and described him as a "bitter" exemployee. "I asked him to resign because he had so alienated the entire state police," he said. "It had nothing to do with my son." Brenda Turner, Huckabee's then chief of staff, and Kevin Crass, the Huckabee family lawyer, also disputed Bailey's account, although both acknowledged talking to him about the dog killing. "I asked him, 'Is it normal for the state police to … investigate something that happened at a Boy Scout camp?' " Turner says. "We wanted the same treatment that anybody else would get." (Animal cruelty in Arkansas is a misdemeanor, not a felony.)

The details of the incident remain murky. The Animal Legal Defense Fund got an anonymous fax that summer alleging that David Huckabee and another youth had been involved in the hanging of a stray dog at the camp on July 11. A local animal-rights activist, Joyce Hillard, later contacted the camp director. Notes of Hillard's report to the defense fund read, "Boys confessed & were fired. Dir. is making excuses, saying dog was sic & boys were putting him out of his misery." (The director told NEWSWEEK only that a stray dog was "put down" and that the counselors were fired for violating the Scout credo to be "kind.") The father of the other counselor was quoted by the Arkansas Democrat Gazette in August 1998 as saying that his son found the dog "hung over a limb and choking." David Huckabee did not respond to requests for comment. (In April of this year, he was arrested—and paid a fine—when he forgot to remove a loaded gun from his carry-on luggage at Little Rock airport.) His father told NEWSWEEK that his son did not engage in "intentional torture." "There was a dog that apparently had mange and was absolutely, I guess, emaciated." A campaign official says David "regrets" the incident and notes that he later made Eagle Scout.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241

[cutthemdown]

And so it begins. We all know the game people. If you can't make them like you, make them hate your opponent.

[Pendejo]

I don't think I want to know a man who hasn't: 1) Hung a dog 2) Slit it's throat 3) Stoned it for good measure.

I don't care who your father is. Boys will be boys.

[24champ]

"The dog was sick so I let my son torture it"?

Can't wait to see his health-care plan!

[cutthemdown]

Under my plan we would save money is 1 simple way

all patients emaciated or mangy we hang. That saves 400 million a year right there.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Heh!

Whose dog would Jesus hang?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

"The dog was sick so I let my son torture it"?

Can't wait to see his health-care plan!

See also:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...8&postcount=66

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

And so it begins. We all know the game people. If you can't make them like you, make them hate your opponent.

Yep. What does what someone's son did while they were a kid have to
do with Huckabee being president. Huckabee didn't hang the dog and
Huckabee's son isn't running for president.

If Barack Obama gets a free pass for using cocaine because he was a high
school kid when he did it, why shouldn't Huckabee's kid get a pass for doing
something stupid too?

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

"The dog was sick so I let my son torture it"?

Can't wait to see his health-care plan!

Huckabee's son has a health care plan?

[snowspot66]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Yep. What does what someone's son did while they were a kid have to
do with Huckabee being president. Huckabee didn't hang the dog and
Huckabee's son isn't running for president.

If Barack Obama gets a free pass for using cocaine because he was a high
school kid when he did it, why shouldn't Huckabee's kid get a pass for doing
something stupid too?

It's a perfect example of what to expect when **** hits the fan. He'll try to cover it up and fire people for not cooperating. Sound familiar?


-edit-

Oh yeah, torturing animals is a warning sign of a serial killer, using dugs is just a dumb idea.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Yep. What does what someone's son did while they were a kid have to
do with Huckabee being president. Huckabee didn't hang the dog and
Huckabee's son isn't running for president.

If Barack Obama gets a free pass for using cocaine because he was a high
school kid when he did it, why shouldn't Huckabee's kid get a pass for doing
something stupid too?

Well they are saying Huckabee used his power to thwart an investigation into it. That would be an abuse of power and subject to being looked at IMO.

[The Lone Bolt]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Yep. What does what someone's son did while they were a kid have to
do with Huckabee being president. Huckabee didn't hang the dog and
Huckabee's son isn't running for president.

If Barack Obama gets a free pass for using cocaine because he was a high
school kid when he did it, why shouldn't Huckabee's kid get a pass for doing
something stupid too?

You realize of course in LABF's eyes you are now a "Huckabee Supporter."

[Spider]

Religion does make you stupid , Hell the kid could have got ahold of Michale Vick and made some $$$ in a dog fight ...........

[TheDave]

That's a scary looking thing right there...

[DomCasual]

Originally Posted by TheDave

That's a scary looking thing right there...

He looks like he picks his nose. A lot.

[DomCasual]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Yep. What does what someone's son did while they were a kid have to
do with Huckabee being president. Huckabee didn't hang the dog and
Huckabee's son isn't running for president.

If Barack Obama gets a free pass for using cocaine because he was a high
school kid when he did it, why shouldn't Huckabee's kid get a pass for doing
something stupid too?

I agree. I hope you're saying that because you really think it's irrelevant; rather than to complain about Obama's drug use.

I always start out the process to elect a president eager for information, and excited for the process. I always end up wishing it would just get over. It just seems to become unhealthy and counterproductive.

Although, I will say that throwing your weight around for personal benefit (if it's true) is a whole different deal than getting blamed for something your 17-year-old son did.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Yep. What does what someone's son did while they were a kid have to
do with Huckabee being president. Huckabee didn't hang the dog and
Huckabee's son isn't running for president.

If Barack Obama gets a free pass for using cocaine because he was a high
school kid when he did it, why shouldn't Huckabee's kid get a pass for doing
something stupid too?

Two different standards bob, one candidate is running on social issues, family values, claims to be the Christian leader etc.


and the other candidate is not.

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

Two different standards bob, one candidate is running on social issues, family values, claims to be the Christian leader etc.

That is a good point, if you are running around screaming family values and good morals... I becomes more of a problem when your kid shrek starts hangin' dogs for kicks.


Not matter really... I wasn't going to vote for him anyways.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Huckabee's son has a health care plan?

If he did then it would be one more health plan than his father has laid out.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by TheDave

That is a good point, if you are running around screaming family values and good morals... I becomes more of a problem when your kid shrek starts hangin' dogs for kicks.


Not matter really... I wasn't going to vote for him anyways.

Yup...but hey Merry Christmas...that's what REALLY matters.

[baja]

Originally Posted by TheDave

That's a scary looking thing right there...

That looks like a bag of shiit with a face on it.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by snowspot66

It's a perfect example of what to expect when **** hits the fan. He'll try to cover it up and fire people for not cooperating. Sound familiar?


-edit-

Oh yeah, torturing animals is a warning sign of a serial killer, using dugs is just a dumb idea.

Abusing and torturing animals is a socio/psychopathic issue, while allot of serial killers may have this tendency - it's not a definite. I'd be more apt to say that he maybe a spousal abuser before a serial killer though. Mostly due to age, etc.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by The Lone Bolt

You realize of course in LABF's eyes you are now a "Huckabee Supporter."

Only in the whacky, parallel universe Lone Bolt inhabits (read: BushWorld.)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Yep. What does what someone's son did while they were a kid have to do with Huckabee being president.

The things relatives of politicians do are no reflection on those politicians (unless, of course, your last name is "Clinton.")

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

The things relatives of politicians do are no reflection on those politicians (unless, of course, your last name is "Clinton.")

Wasn't aware Chelsea hung a dog.