Another PFT Rumor - Marshall Meltdown In Denver? - Page 9 - The Orange Mane

BroncoInferno · 12-18-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

His comments about the supposed "banwagon fans" in Denver would clearly meet this criteria for some.

Actually, no, it wouldn't. He was 100% correct about that.

TailgateNut · 12-18-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Actually, no, it wouldn't. He was 100% correct about that.

Please elaborate!

Beantown Bronco · 12-18-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Actually, no, it wouldn't. He was 100% correct about that.

Reading comp time.

I said "for some." You cannot speak for how 100% of the population feels about Marshall's comments re: Denver fans.

It is your opinion that he was correct in what he said. Many folks (including fans and season ticket holders here - who both stuck out and left that game early) disagree.

TheReverend · 12-18-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

1. How did I show I was wrong?
2. what is a "minorly serious" infraction? Is this some sort of "legalese"?
3. wanna bet that he will plead guilty to a lesser charge of DWAI? (hint: they do not take you to DETOX, unless you are frigging hammered!)

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

1. The Commish can't do squat if he isn't convicted.

But Pacman Jones was suspended a year without a conviction...

Then you show such a high amount of confidence in the legal system in regards to his DUI but no amount of confidence in the legal system in regards to the "domestic dispute".

So which one is it?

TheReverend · 12-18-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

What was the topic again!

Let's order pizza...

Rev...you are just digging yourself a hole.
Why can't you respect others opinions without making an idiot out of yourself?
Where are some of us not stating facts?
It's our right whether to like a guy or not...and I never
said I didn't like Brandon...whatever. I want Brandon to prove me
wrong in my assessment of his character as much as anyone does that is a Bronco fan.

Lol, what hole and I'm making an idiot out of MYSELF? What facts have you stated? What convictions has he faced? What has he done that's hurts this team?

Jason in LA · 12-18-2007, 03:17 PM

I thought this thread was pretty much a wrap around page three when it was confirmed that PFT was wrong (like that really needed to be confirmed). Now it's up to 9 pages?!?! This place has gone crazy.

TailgateNut · 12-18-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

But Pacman Jones was suspended a year without a conviction...

Then you show such a high amount of confidence in the legal system in regards to his DUI but no amount of confidence in the legal system in regards to the "domestic dispute".

So which one is it?

It is BOTH!

I believe there was a video showing Pacmans "brawl" which sufficed as enough evidence for the Comish to suspend him!

The domestic dispute was obviously resolved by ordering Anger Mgt. classes, which in itself implies guilt. If he wasn't guilty of the infraction, I highly doubt he would attend classes just for the hell of it!

The DUI issue can and probably will be reduced to a DWAI if it was his first infraction, but pleading to the lesser charge will in turn prove he was guilty.

DMV, on the other hand has strict guidelines regarding the issuance and revocation of drivers licences when any proof of impairment is shown!

TheReverend · 12-18-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

It is BOTH!

I believe there was a video showing Pacmans "brawl" which sufficed as enough evidence for the Comish to suspend him!

The domestic dispute was obviously resolved by ordering Anger Mgt. classes, which in itself implies guilt. If he wasn't guilty of the infraction, I highly doubt he would attend classes just for the hell of it!

The DUI issue can and probably will be reduced to a DWAI if it was his first infraction, but pleading to the lesser charge will in turn prove he was guilty.

DMV, on the other hand has strict guidelines regarding the issuance and revocation of drivers licences when any proof of impairment is shown!

And I think a conviction of Rod Smith for more severe charges leading to 2 years of probation and 36 weeks counseling is a REAL implication of guilt...

I'll restate my point nice and slow for you since you're not that bright... when Brandon Marshall is suspended or convicted by anyone for whatever reason, then it will be fair to label him a "problem". When Brandon Marshall becomes even a minor issue for the locker room or throws a teammate under the bus, then it will be fair to label him with an "attitude".

Until then, you've got nothing.

Is DJ Williams an attitude problem?
He got a DUI.

Is Rod Smith?
He was convicted.

So why not lay off the kid until you have an ACTUAL reason?

Sassy · 12-18-2007, 03:34 PM

I'll restate my point nice and slow for you since you're not that bright... when Brandon Marshall is suspended or convicted by anyone for whatever reason, then it will be fair to label him a "problem". When Brandon Marshall becomes even a minor issue for the locker room or throws a teammate under the bus, then it will be fair to label him with an "attitude".

How many times does he need to get "arrested" convicted or not...to prove that he has issues?
You're saying the because he hasn't been convicted his arrests..."issues" are not a problem.
I say that it has to do with character...how long before Brandon's "arrests" do get him into trouble yet again?

Rod learned from his...Brandon has yet to prove that he has.

BMF Bronco · 12-18-2007, 03:36 PM

TheReverend · 12-18-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

I'll restate my point nice and slow for you since you're not that bright... when Brandon Marshall is suspended or convicted by anyone for whatever reason, then it will be fair to label him a "problem". When Brandon Marshall becomes even a minor issue for the locker room or throws a teammate under the bus, then it will be fair to label him with an "attitude".

How many times does he need to get "arrested" convicted or not...to prove that he has issues?

Rod learned from his...Brandon has yet to prove that he has.

Brandon apparently hasn't gotten the opportunity to... and "convicted or not", huh?

"Innocent until proven guilty" has no meaning with you? You believe not only in "Guilty until proven innocent" but "Guilty even if proven innocent".

Northman · 12-18-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

I don't recall this. All I remember was the mile high salute he gave to the fan who was badgering him. Did he call out Denver fans as being "bandwagon fans"?

Not so much bandwagon as he said he had seen much better fans in AZ.

Northman · 12-18-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

He allegedly flat out insulted the fans when he went off on that reporter for exposing his relationship with the cheerleader that he now lives with.

Yea, this was around the time he called out the fans.

TailgateNut · 12-18-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

And I think a conviction of Rod Smith for more severe charges leading to 2 years of probation and 36 weeks counseling is a REAL implication of guilt...

I'll restate my point nice and slow for you since you're not that bright... when Brandon Marshall is suspended or convicted by anyone for whatever reason, then it will be fair to label him a "problem". When Brandon Marshall becomes even a minor issue for the locker room or throws a teammate under the bus, then it will be fair to label him with an "attitude".

Until then, you've got nothing.

Is DJ Williams an attitude problem?
He got a DUI.

Is Rod Smith?
He was convicted.

So why not lay off the kid until you have an ACTUAL reason?

OK Master!

Marshall IMO has been "convicted" Domestic abuse. If he had'nt he would'nt have attended Anger Mgt. Classes. PERIOD!

Marshall did call out the fans! "A classless act by a ROOKIE"!

Marshall was thrown into DETOX. He was driving under the influence of alcohol. If he was not under the influence his lawyers would be filing "false imprisonment" charges against the County!

HE IS GUILTY IMO!

You have yours, and I have mine!

Rod Smith isn't the topic of this thread, nor is Pacman.

I don't condone Rod's actions, but he learned and changed. That's all I would expect Brandon to do. If not, ****CAN HIS ASS!

Sassy · 12-18-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Brandon apparently hasn't gotten the opportunity to... and "convicted or not", huh?

"Innocent until proven guilty" has no meaning with you? You believe not only in "Guilty until proven innocent" but "Guilty even if proven innocent".

See TGN's post.
Why would they send him to anger management classes if not guilty of something...and gee, I wonder why he is being charged with DUI if his blood level did not have above the legal limits of alcohol in his system...re: DETOX!

Northman · 12-18-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

OK Master!

Marshall IMO has been "convicted" Domestic abuse. If he had'nt he would'nt have attended Anger Mgt. Classes. PERIOD!

Marshall did call out the fans! "A classless act by a ROOKIE"!

Marshall was thrown into DETOX. He was driving under the influence of alcohol. If he was not under the influence his lawyers would be filing "false imprisonment" charges against the County!

HE IS GUILTY IMO!

You have yours, and I have mine!

Rod Smith isn't the topic of this thread, nor is Pacman.

I don't condone Rod's actions, but he learned and changed. That's all I would expect Brandon to do. If not, ****CAN HIS ASS!

Are you sure you dont have anger management issues?

TheReverend · 12-18-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

OK Master!

Marshall IMO has been "convicted" Domestic abuse. If he had'nt he would'nt have attended Anger Mgt. Classes. PERIOD!

Marshall did call out the fans! "A classless act by a ROOKIE"!

Marshall was thrown into DETOX. He was driving under the influence of alcohol. If he was not under the influence his lawyers would be filing "false imprisonment" charges against the County!

HE IS GUILTY IMO!

You have yours, and I have mine!

Rod Smith isn't the topic of this thread, nor is Pacman.

I don't condone Rod's actions, but he learned and changed. That's all I would expect Brandon to do. If not, ****CAN HIS ASS!

Yes, I suppose relative, factual history has no bearing to your insane, facist rants.

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

"Innocent until proven guilty" has no meaning with you? You believe not only in "Guilty until proven innocent" but "Guilty even if proven innocent".

TheReverend · 12-18-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

See TGN's post.
Why would they send him to anger management classes if not guilty of something...and gee, I wonder why he is being charged with DUI if his blood level did not have above the legal limits of alcohol in his system...re: DETOX!

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

"Innocent until proven guilty" has no meaning with you? You believe not only in "Guilty until proven innocent" but "Guilty even if proven innocent".

TailgateNut · 12-18-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

See TGN's post.
Why would they send him to anger management classes if not guilty of something...and gee, I wonder why he is being charged with DUI if his blood level did not have above the legal limits of alcohol in his system...re: DETOX!

He seems to think Brandon attended Anger Mgt Classes just for fun!
He also seems to think that Cops just grab you out of your vehicle and throw you into DETOX for no apparant reason.

If I am charged with something I'm not guilty of, I fight it to the bitter end. I don't give in to the whim of the court!

....and you damn sure are not throwing me into a detox cell if I haven't broken the law.

Blueflame · 12-18-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Brandon apparently hasn't gotten the opportunity to... and "convicted or not", huh?

"Innocent until proven guilty" has no meaning with you? You believe not only in "Guilty until proven innocent" but "Guilty even if proven innocent".

Right because Shanahan certainly waited for the conviction before dealing with the recent Sauerbrun incident... oh wait...

Sassy · 12-18-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

He seems to think Brandon attended Anger Mgt Classes just for fun!
He also seems to think that Cops just grab you out of your vehicle and throw you into DETOX for no apparant reason.

If I am charged with something I'm not guilty of, I fight it to the bitter end. I don't give in to the whim of the court!

....and you damn sure are not throwing me into a detox cell if I haven't broken the law.

You're stating the facts and so am I.
I think the rev's love for Marshall is overriding his common sense...if he has any.

TailgateNut · 12-18-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Yes, I suppose relative, factual history has no bearing to your insane, facist rants.

Insane

Facist

...any attorneys can hop right in to this conversation, and explain the system to the REV!

TheReverend · 12-18-2007, 03:57 PM

You're so clever! Why not go back to being a make-believe fan and then **** talking the players that are giving effort for no reason.

I've met AIDs patients with brighter futures than you.

TheReverend · 12-18-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

You're stating the facts and so am I.
I think the rev's love for Marshall is overriding his common sense...if he has any.

Let me ask you something... if I call the police and say you stole something from me, does it matter if you did or not?

Because that's exactly how you're treating Marshall. Due process exists for a reason.

But I'm the one lacking common sense........

BMF Bronco · 12-18-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

If I am charged with something I'm not guilty of, I fight it to the bitter end. I don't give in to the whim of the court!

....and you damn sure are not throwing me into a detox cell if I haven't broken the law.

hence the not guilty plea and March court date

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12-18-2007, 03:17 PM	#206
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,254	I thought this thread was pretty much a wrap around page three when it was confirmed that PFT was wrong (like that really needed to be confirmed). Now it's up to 9 pages?!?! This place has gone crazy.

12-18-2007, 03:34 PM	#209
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I'll restate my point nice and slow for you since you're not that bright... when Brandon Marshall is suspended or convicted by anyone for whatever reason, then it will be fair to label him a "problem". When Brandon Marshall becomes even a minor issue for the locker room or throws a teammate under the bus, then it will be fair to label him with an "attitude". How many times does he need to get "arrested" convicted or not...to prove that he has issues? You're saying the because he hasn't been convicted his arrests..."issues" are not a problem. I say that it has to do with character...how long before Brandon's "arrests" do get him into trouble yet again? Rod learned from his...Brandon has yet to prove that he has.

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TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,026 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	You're so clever! Why not go back to being a make-believe fan and then **** talking the players that are giving effort for no reason. I've met AIDs patients with brighter futures than you.