Teams Needing OT - The Orange Mane

SpringStein · 12-13-2007, 04:37 PM

I'm probably missing some - and of course not all these will take a OT, but off the top of my head here are teams that might consider an OT in the first or second round this year:

Falcons
Rams
Chiefs
Ravens
Texans
Bears
Lions
Broncos
Chargers
Steelers
Cowboys
Packers

That's 12 teams - would it be surprising if 5-6 OT's went in the first 35 picks?

Requiem · 12-13-2007, 07:44 PM

I think you're spot on Spring, with the great depth there is (and quality top talent) at the position this year, I think you're going to see a lot of teams bite early and look for their future stalwart at the position. I think you and I have been in agreement that this class probably has 8-10, perhaps even more picks at tackle in the top three rounds. My dream is for Denver to get a guy like Christopher Williams in the second, but he might not even be there: some people say he's going to sneak into round one.

San Francisco is ****ing retarded. Helped the Patriots, got a decent prospect in Staley (what they gave up and who to makes me pissed) but there are probably eight tackles at least who are better than him.

Some people seem to think we're fine, but I think we need to get Harris a running mate for the future. I know you and some others are concerned about his back as well (Harris') so that might be even more of a point to go out and surround Jay with some more talent.

I see Denver getting a DT/LB/WR/OT with their first four picks or so, if that fifth from Oakland accelerates, toss in a safety too.

SpringStein · 12-13-2007, 08:02 PM

I'm hoping a guy like Oher will see the team needs and decide to come out and make this OT class even better.

lex · 12-13-2007, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem

I think you're spot on Spring, with the great depth there is (and quality top talent) at the position this year, I think you're going to see a lot of teams bite early and look for their future stalwart at the position. I think you and I have been in agreement that this class probably has 8-10, perhaps even more picks at tackle in the top three rounds. My dream is for Denver to get a guy like Christopher Williams in the second, but he might not even be there: some people say he's going to sneak into round one.

San Francisco is ****ing retarded. Helped the Patriots, got a decent prospect in Staley (what they gave up and who to makes me pissed) but there are probably eight tackles at least who are better than him.

Some people seem to think we're fine, but I think we need to get Harris a running mate for the future. I know you and some others are concerned about his back as well (Harris') so that might be even more of a point to go out and surround Jay with some more talent.

I see Denver getting a DT/LB/WR/OT with their first four picks or so, if that fifth from Oakland accelerates, toss in a safety too.

It would be a mistake to bank on Harris coming through...especially at RT.

SpringStein · 12-13-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lex

It would be a mistake to bank on Harris coming through...especially at RT.

QFT - hope we are wrong.

Requiem · 12-13-2007, 10:54 PM

I don't think Harris will be a RT either (effective) but Pears is horrid.

SpringStein · 12-13-2007, 11:15 PM

Raiders should be added to the above list as well.

Elway777 · 12-13-2007, 11:50 PM

I'm thinking the Broncos take Ryan Clady in the first and Erin Henderson in the second. If the Broncos get a 3 rounder then Dre Moore or B.J. Raja.

elsid13 · 12-14-2007, 09:10 PM

I would take the Ravens off the list. They really like the kid from Maryland they picked in the supplemental draft. Plus I expect a QB is #1 target this season.

SpringStein · 12-14-2007, 09:28 PM

True about Ravens - I was thinking with Ogden on his last legs...

-Slap- · 12-19-2007, 02:21 AM

Anybody think Loadholt is the first OT off the board if he declares?

bpc · 12-19-2007, 02:56 AM

Him and Otah don't have near the polish that Long has as a player but Long is maxed out and in my opinion will never be a top flight LT in the NFL. Loadholt and Otah (Ogden and Tarik Glenn) both have chances to be pro bowl players at LT with some time and good coaching.

I do think that if Loadholt has some good workouts IF he declares, he could easily jump Long as the first offensive lineman selected. He is still a little raw but he is screaming with potential that can't be denied.

Elway777 · 12-19-2007, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bpc

Him and Otah don't have near the polish that Long has as a player but Long is maxed out and in my opinion will never be a top flight LT in the NFL. Loadholt and Otah (Ogden and Tarik Glenn) both have chances to be pro bowl players at LT with some time and good coaching.

I do think that if Loadholt has some good workouts IF he declares, he could easily jump Long as the first offensive lineman selected. He is still a little raw but he is screaming with potential that can't be denied.

I think Long is the prefect offensive tackle for the Broncos because he has played in zone blocking scheme . I would be willing to trade our 2008 and 2009 first round picks to get him. I still would not mind draft Clady loadholt or Otah.

SpringStein · 12-26-2007, 01:15 PM

A guy I repsect just posted this mock on another board - and I think a lot of people will like it for the Broncos. But it also reinforces my point that if we don't take an OT in roound 1, the likeliehood of getting a really good one diminish by the time we pick in round 2. In this scenario, there were 7 OTs taken in the first 35 picks.

Here it is:

ROUND ONE
01. MIA - DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
02. SL - DE Chris Long, Virginia
03. NYJ - RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
04. ATL - QB Matt Ryan, Boston College
05. KC - RT Jake Long, Michigan
06. OAK - OT Michael Oher, Mississippi
07. BAL - QB Brian Brohm, Louisville
08. NE from SF - ILB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
09. CIN - DE Vernon Gholston, Ohio State
10. DEN - DT Sedrick Ellis, USC
11. CAR - FS Kenny Phillips, Miami
12. CHI - LT Ryan Clady, Boise State
13. AZ - CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
14. NO - CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida
15. BUF - OLB Keith Rivers, USC
16. HOU - RB Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois
17. DET - DE Calais Campbell, Miami
18. PHI - WR DeSean Jackson, California
19. MN - QB Andre Woodson, Kentucky
20. WA - DE Derrick Harvey, Florida
21. TN - WR Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma
22. DAL from CLE - RB Felix Jones, Arkansas
23. TB - RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
24. SEA - OT Alex Boone, Ohio State
25. PIT - OT Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh
26. SD - ILB Curtis Lofton, Oklahoma
27. NYG - OLB Dan Connor, Penn. State
28. JAX - CB Tracy Porter, Indiana
29. GB - CB Antoine Cason, Arizona
30. SF from IND - WR Early Doucet, LSU
31. DAL - WR Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State
32. Forfeited by NE

ROUND TWO
01. MIA - LT Sam Baker, USC
02. NYJ - DE Tyson Jackson, LSU
03. ATL - DT Pat Sims, Auburn
04. SL - LT Chris Williams, Vanderbilt
05. OAK - WR James Hardy, Indiana
06. BAL - WR Mario Manningham, Michigan
07. KC - CB Aqib Talib, Kansas
08. SF - ILB Rey Maualuga, USC
09. DEN - MLB James “Beau” Bell, UNLV
10. CAR - QB Colt Brennan, Hawaii
11. CHI - RB Steve Slaton, West Virginia
12. CIN - NT Frank Okam, Texas
13. NO - MLB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
14. BUF - WR Limas Sweed, Texas
15. ATL from HOU - OT Gosder Cherilus, Boston College
16. DET - CB DeJuan Tribble, Boston College
17. PHI - TE Chase Coffman, Missouri
18. AZ - FS Reggie Smith, Oklahoma
19. WA - WR Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt
20. MN - DE Phillip Merling, Clemson
21. CLE - DE Kentwan Balmer, North Carolina
22. TB - WR Harry Douglas, Louisville
23. TN - CB Terrell Thomas, USC
24. PIT - OG George “Duke” Robinson, Oklahoma
25. MIA from SD - DE Quentin Groves, Auburn
26. NYG - CB Leodis McKelvin, Troy
27. SEA - RB Kevin Smith, Central Florida
28. JAX - DE Lawrence Jackson, USC
29. GB - RB Chris Johnson, East Carolina
30. IND - OC Alex Mack, California
31. DAL - CB Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech.
32. NE - CB Jack Ikegwuonu, Wisconsin

socalorado · 12-26-2007, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpringStein

A guy I repsect just posted this mock on another board - and I think a lot of people will like it for the Broncos. But it also reinforces my point that if we don't take an OT in roound 1, the likeliehood of getting a really good one diminish by the time we pick in round 2. In this scenario, there were 7 OTs taken in the first 35 picks.

Here it is:

ROUND ONE
01. MIA - DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
02. SL - DE Chris Long, Virginia
03. NYJ - RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
04. ATL - QB Matt Ryan, Boston College
05. KC - RT Jake Long, Michigan
06. OAK - OT Michael Oher, Mississippi
07. BAL - QB Brian Brohm, Louisville
08. NE from SF - ILB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
09. CIN - DE Vernon Gholston, Ohio State
10. DEN - DT Sedrick Ellis, USC
11. CAR - FS Kenny Phillips, Miami
12. CHI - LT Ryan Clady, Boise State
13. AZ - CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
14. NO - CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida
15. BUF - OLB Keith Rivers, USC
16. HOU - RB Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois
17. DET - DE Calais Campbell, Miami
18. PHI - WR DeSean Jackson, California
19. MN - QB Andre Woodson, Kentucky
20. WA - DE Derrick Harvey, Florida
21. TN - WR Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma
22. DAL from CLE - RB Felix Jones, Arkansas
23. TB - RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
24. SEA - OT Alex Boone, Ohio State
25. PIT - OT Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh
26. SD - ILB Curtis Lofton, Oklahoma
27. NYG - OLB Dan Connor, Penn. State
28. JAX - CB Tracy Porter, Indiana
29. GB - CB Antoine Cason, Arizona
30. SF from IND - WR Early Doucet, LSU
31. DAL - WR Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State
32. Forfeited by NE

ROUND TWO
01. MIA - LT Sam Baker, USC
02. NYJ - DE Tyson Jackson, LSU
03. ATL - DT Pat Sims, Auburn
04. SL - LT Chris Williams, Vanderbilt
05. OAK - WR James Hardy, Indiana
06. BAL - WR Mario Manningham, Michigan
07. KC - CB Aqib Talib, Kansas
08. SF - ILB Rey Maualuga, USC
09. DEN - MLB James “Beau” Bell, UNLV
10. CAR - QB Colt Brennan, Hawaii
11. CHI - RB Steve Slaton, West Virginia
12. CIN - NT Frank Okam, Texas
13. NO - MLB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
14. BUF - WR Limas Sweed, Texas
15. ATL from HOU - OT Gosder Cherilus, Boston College
16. DET - CB DeJuan Tribble, Boston College
17. PHI - TE Chase Coffman, Missouri
18. AZ - FS Reggie Smith, Oklahoma
19. WA - WR Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt
20. MN - DE Phillip Merling, Clemson
21. CLE - DE Kentwan Balmer, North Carolina
22. TB - WR Harry Douglas, Louisville
23. TN - CB Terrell Thomas, USC
24. PIT - OG George “Duke” Robinson, Oklahoma
25. MIA from SD - DE Quentin Groves, Auburn
26. NYG - CB Leodis McKelvin, Troy
27. SEA - RB Kevin Smith, Central Florida
28. JAX - DE Lawrence Jackson, USC
29. GB - RB Chris Johnson, East Carolina
30. IND - OC Alex Mack, California
31. DAL - CB Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech.
32. NE - CB Jack Ikegwuonu, Wisconsin

Thats not bad, except Ellis doesnt fit Bates scheme, but hes good anyways.
Bell at #41 is spot on, and i would just LOVE to move back into the bottom of the 2nd and snag Terrell Thomas.Guy can play FS, return kicks and punts and play CB.

nickademus · 12-26-2007, 06:04 PM

yea that mock isnt horrible but I would rather see a OT instead of Ellis if Loadholt comes out that would be perfect. I could also see us making a trade to attempt to get a dt as well. possibly trade up and take okam and bell. who knows.

Drek · 12-27-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpringStein

A guy I repsect just posted this mock on another board.....

I'd rather see us take Clady in the first and Okam in the 2nd, but I wouldn't be pissed over that draft either.

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12-13-2007, 04:37 PM	#1
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	Teams Needing OT I'm probably missing some - and of course not all these will take a OT, but off the top of my head here are teams that might consider an OT in the first or second round this year: Falcons Rams Chiefs Ravens Texans Bears Lions Broncos Chargers Steelers Cowboys Packers That's 12 teams - would it be surprising if 5-6 OT's went in the first 35 picks?

12-13-2007, 07:44 PM	#2
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,515 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I think you're spot on Spring, with the great depth there is (and quality top talent) at the position this year, I think you're going to see a lot of teams bite early and look for their future stalwart at the position. I think you and I have been in agreement that this class probably has 8-10, perhaps even more picks at tackle in the top three rounds. My dream is for Denver to get a guy like Christopher Williams in the second, but he might not even be there: some people say he's going to sneak into round one. San Francisco is ****ing retarded. Helped the Patriots, got a decent prospect in Staley (what they gave up and who to makes me pissed) but there are probably eight tackles at least who are better than him. Some people seem to think we're fine, but I think we need to get Harris a running mate for the future. I know you and some others are concerned about his back as well (Harris') so that might be even more of a point to go out and surround Jay with some more talent. I see Denver getting a DT/LB/WR/OT with their first four picks or so, if that fifth from Oakland accelerates, toss in a safety too.

12-13-2007, 08:02 PM	#3
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	I'm hoping a guy like Oher will see the team needs and decide to come out and make this OT class even better.

12-13-2007, 10:54 PM	#6
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,515 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I don't think Harris will be a RT either (effective) but Pears is horrid.

12-13-2007, 11:15 PM	#7
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	Raiders should be added to the above list as well.

12-13-2007, 11:50 PM	#8
Elway777 Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,886	I'm thinking the Broncos take Ryan Clady in the first and Erin Henderson in the second. If the Broncos get a 3 rounder then Dre Moore or B.J. Raja.

12-14-2007, 09:10 PM	#9
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,079	I would take the Ravens off the list. They really like the kid from Maryland they picked in the supplemental draft. Plus I expect a QB is #1 target this season.

12-14-2007, 09:28 PM	#10
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	True about Ravens - I was thinking with Ogden on his last legs...

12-19-2007, 02:21 AM	#11
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Anybody think Loadholt is the first OT off the board if he declares?

12-19-2007, 02:56 AM	#12
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,566 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Him and Otah don't have near the polish that Long has as a player but Long is maxed out and in my opinion will never be a top flight LT in the NFL. Loadholt and Otah (Ogden and Tarik Glenn) both have chances to be pro bowl players at LT with some time and good coaching. I do think that if Loadholt has some good workouts IF he declares, he could easily jump Long as the first offensive lineman selected. He is still a little raw but he is screaming with potential that can't be denied.

12-26-2007, 01:15 PM	#14
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	A guy I repsect just posted this mock on another board - and I think a lot of people will like it for the Broncos. But it also reinforces my point that if we don't take an OT in roound 1, the likeliehood of getting a really good one diminish by the time we pick in round 2. In this scenario, there were 7 OTs taken in the first 35 picks. Here it is: ROUND ONE 01. MIA - DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU 02. SL - DE Chris Long, Virginia 03. NYJ - RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas 04. ATL - QB Matt Ryan, Boston College 05. KC - RT Jake Long, Michigan 06. OAK - OT Michael Oher, Mississippi 07. BAL - QB Brian Brohm, Louisville 08. NE from SF - ILB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State 09. CIN - DE Vernon Gholston, Ohio State 10. DEN - DT Sedrick Ellis, USC 11. CAR - FS Kenny Phillips, Miami 12. CHI - LT Ryan Clady, Boise State 13. AZ - CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State 14. NO - CB Mike Jenkins, South Florida 15. BUF - OLB Keith Rivers, USC 16. HOU - RB Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois 17. DET - DE Calais Campbell, Miami 18. PHI - WR DeSean Jackson, California 19. MN - QB Andre Woodson, Kentucky 20. WA - DE Derrick Harvey, Florida 21. TN - WR Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma 22. DAL from CLE - RB Felix Jones, Arkansas 23. TB - RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon 24. SEA - OT Alex Boone, Ohio State 25. PIT - OT Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh 26. SD - ILB Curtis Lofton, Oklahoma 27. NYG - OLB Dan Connor, Penn. State 28. JAX - CB Tracy Porter, Indiana 29. GB - CB Antoine Cason, Arizona 30. SF from IND - WR Early Doucet, LSU 31. DAL - WR Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State 32. Forfeited by NE ROUND TWO 01. MIA - LT Sam Baker, USC 02. NYJ - DE Tyson Jackson, LSU 03. ATL - DT Pat Sims, Auburn 04. SL - LT Chris Williams, Vanderbilt 05. OAK - WR James Hardy, Indiana 06. BAL - WR Mario Manningham, Michigan 07. KC - CB Aqib Talib, Kansas 08. SF - ILB Rey Maualuga, USC 09. DEN - MLB James “Beau” Bell, UNLV 10. CAR - QB Colt Brennan, Hawaii 11. CHI - RB Steve Slaton, West Virginia 12. CIN - NT Frank Okam, Texas 13. NO - MLB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina 14. BUF - WR Limas Sweed, Texas 15. ATL from HOU - OT Gosder Cherilus, Boston College 16. DET - CB DeJuan Tribble, Boston College 17. PHI - TE Chase Coffman, Missouri 18. AZ - FS Reggie Smith, Oklahoma 19. WA - WR Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt 20. MN - DE Phillip Merling, Clemson 21. CLE - DE Kentwan Balmer, North Carolina 22. TB - WR Harry Douglas, Louisville 23. TN - CB Terrell Thomas, USC 24. PIT - OG George “Duke” Robinson, Oklahoma 25. MIA from SD - DE Quentin Groves, Auburn 26. NYG - CB Leodis McKelvin, Troy 27. SEA - RB Kevin Smith, Central Florida 28. JAX - DE Lawrence Jackson, USC 29. GB - RB Chris Johnson, East Carolina 30. IND - OC Alex Mack, California 31. DAL - CB Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech. 32. NE - CB Jack Ikegwuonu, Wisconsin

12-26-2007, 06:04 PM	#16
nickademus Samurai of Smack Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,105 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	yea that mock isnt horrible but I would rather see a OT instead of Ellis if Loadholt comes out that would be perfect. I could also see us making a trade to attempt to get a dt as well. possibly trade up and take okam and bell. who knows.