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Chavez, Ahmadinejad to work against US By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer
Mon Nov 19, 6:27 PM ET

The presidents of Venezuela and Iran boasted Monday that they will defeat U.S. imperialism together, saying the fall of the dollar is a prelude to the end of Washington's global dominance.

Hugo Chavez's visit to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Tehran followed a failed weekend attempt by the firebrand duo to push the Organization of Petroleum Exporting States away from trading in the slumping greenback.

Their proposal at an OPEC summit was overruled by other cartel members led by Saudi Arabia, a strong U.S. ally. But the cartel agreed to have OPEC finance ministers discuss the idea, and the two allies' move showed their potential for stirring up problems for the U.S.

The alliance between Chavez and Ahmadinejad has blossomed with several exchanged visits — Monday's was Chavez's fourth time in Tehran in two years — a string of technical agreements and a torrent of rhetoric presenting their two countries as an example of how smaller nations can stand up to the superpower.

"Here are two brother countries, united like a single fist," Chavez said upon his arrival in Tehran, according to Venezuela's state-run Bolivarian News Agency.

"God willing, with the fall of the dollar, the deviant U.S. imperialism will fall as soon as possible, too," Chavez said after a two-hour closed meeting with Ahmadinejad, the Iranian state news agency IRNA reported.

As the dollar weakens, oil prices have soared toward $100 a barrel. Chavez said over the weekend at the OPEC meeting in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, that prices would more than double to $200 if the U.S. attacked Iran or Venezuela.

"The U.S. empire is coming down," Chavez told Venezuelan TV, calling the European Union's euro a better option and saying Latin American nations were also considering a common currency.

The leftist Venezuelan is a fierce critic of President Bush, and Iran's Islamic government is in a bitter standoff with Washington over Tehran's nuclear program. The U.S. accuses Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, a claim Tehran denies, and Iran has been hit with two rounds of U.N. sanctions for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment.

Ahmadinejad backed his "dear brother" Chavez in their joint fight with the Bush administration.

"We have common viewpoints and we will stand by each other until we capture the high peaks. God is with us and victory is awaiting us," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by IRNA. He said he and Chavez would stick together to defend their "nations and ideals to the end."

During the OPEC meeting, Iran and Venezuela proposed that the cartel begins pricing its oil in a basket of currencies, rather than just the dollar, and wanted the summit to specifically express concern over the dollar's slide in its final statement.

Saudi Arabia blocked those moves. Saudi Arabia's foreign minister cautioned that even talking publicly about the currency's decline could further hurt its value.

Chavez repeated his warnings that attacking Iran would further increase oil prices. "It's very important that they leave us in peace, the major oil-producing countries," he said.

"If it occurs to Bush to invade Iran, I'm sure the Iranians will resist, and they aren't going to allow them to take away their oil, just as we Venezuelans wouldn't allow it," he said.

In Tehran, the two presidents signed four memorandums of understanding Monday to create a joint bank, a fund, an oil industry technical training program and an industrial agreement, Iranian state television said. It said Chavez then left after an official farewell ceremony.

On Chavez's previous visit in July, the two leaders broke ground for construction of a jointly owned petrochemical complex in Iran, with 51 percent of it in Iranian ownership and 49 percent to be owned by Venezuela. The two nations also began construction of a second petrochemical complex in Venezuela, at a total combined cost of $1.4 billion.

Chavez and Ahmadinejad believe their petrochemical partnership will help Iran win markets in Latin America and Venezuela to gain access to Asia's energy market, especially India.

Since 2001, the two countries have signed more than 180 trade agreements, worth more than $20 billion in potential investment, according to official reports.

Iran has partnered with Venezuela on several industrial projects in the South American nation, including the production of cars, tractors and plastic goods.

Garcia Bronco · 11-21-2007, 10:22 AM

(snicker)

Hotrod · 11-21-2007, 10:28 AM

Someone needs an ass kicking.

W*GS · 11-21-2007, 01:09 PM

I bet Chavez' rhetoric has given LABF a woody.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-21-2007, 07:36 PM

I'll bet the thought of adding Chavez to the "axis of evil" and stealing his oil gives W*GS a little chub.

W*GS · 11-21-2007, 07:44 PM

This from the guy who posted

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...7&postcount=16

Snort.

W*GS · 11-21-2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I'll bet the thought of adding Chavez to the "axis of evil" and stealing his oil gives W*GS a little chub.

At least you've learned that Chavez treats Venezuela's oil as his own to use as he sees fit, rather than a resource belonging to the Venezuelan people. You're very very slowly seeing the light about ol' Hugo.

Perhaps, some day, you'll denounce him rather than be his biatch...

Nah - never happen.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-21-2007, 07:55 PM

W*GS with the Faux News narrative.

Yawn!

W*GS · 11-21-2007, 07:59 PM

Still doing your bit as Chavez' "bottom", LABF... Amazing how you can so clearly see the predations of the Bush administration, but lose that clarity when it comes to ol' Hugo. What's your problem? Can't see to the Left?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-21-2007, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

Still doing your bit as Bush's "bottom", W*GS... Amazing how you can so clearly see the predations of the Chavez administration, but lose that clarity when it comes to ol' Dubya. What's your problem? Can't see to the Right?

Fixed it for ya.

Spider · 11-21-2007, 08:44 PM

Almond Joy and Chavez going to kick our ass ......... Kinda like Pee wee Herman teaming up with Gilligan and starting a reign of terror ............oh wait I forgot there are idiots that was scared ****less of Saddam , so naturally these Idiots live in fear of these 2 turds .............

Spider · 11-21-2007, 08:45 PM

Another good thing about this is , there is a Muslim connection so Yavoon will be blissfully happy in his racism.......err spreading love and understanding to the muslim world with human rights as his only weapon ........

Bronco Bob · 11-21-2007, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider

Another good thing about this is , there is a Muslim connection so Yavoon will be blissfully happy in his racism.......err spreading love and understanding to the muslim world with human rights as his only weapon ........

I got fed up with the little dork when it tried to accuse me of being a racist
and just put it on ignore. Yavoon calling someone else a racist is sort of
akin to Adolph Hitler accusing someone else of being anti-semitic.

W*GS · 11-21-2007, 09:14 PM

Bzzzznt, LABF.

If I'd covered for Bush at all (we all know you've lied about that) your edit would make sense. Since I have not...

Come to think of it, I've never seen you criticize Chavez in any way. Why? Even Ro knows the dude is scum.

yavoon · 11-21-2007, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

I got fed up with the little dork when it tried to accuse me of being a racist
and just put it on ignore. Yavoon calling someone else a racist is sort of
akin to Adolph Hitler accusing someone else of being anti-semitic.

so sez the person who dismissed someone else's right to freedom of religion.

"cant stand the fire? get out of the kitchen." is bronco bob's enlightened, and racist attitude towards freedom of religion.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-21-2007, 09:34 PM

W*GS denying that he has covered for Bush?

That's hysterical.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-21-2007, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

Still doing your bit as Chavez' "bottom", LABF...

Isn't this kind of comment "homophobic" (and thus inappropriate) according to your logic/definition?

I guess that makes you a hypocrite (nothing new there.)

W*GS · 11-21-2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

W*GS denying that he has covered for Bush?

That's hysterical.

Find some proof. And no, Spider's drunken recollections, matched with your fevered imagination, don't count.

W*GS · 11-21-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Isn't this kind of comment "homophobic" (and thus inappropriate) according to your logic/definition?

Coming from someone whose long-time "insult" was "Ken Starr's cabana boy" - look in the mirror.

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I guess that makes you a hypocrite (nothing new there.)

Snort. I will give thanks tomorrow for the (unintentional) humor you give us all each and every day.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-21-2007, 09:53 PM

But if the "cabana boy" insult was "homophobic" (and thus inappropriate) then, according to your own standards, shouldn't the same thing be said re: your "bottom" remark?

Aren't you therefore breaking your own rules and/or operating outside your own value system in making such remarks?

Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

(If you answered "yes" to all three then you get an "A+.")

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-21-2007, 09:56 PM

@ W*GS asking for "proof" that he has defended nearly every move Bush had made.

W*GS must think we have really short memories.

cutthemdown · 11-21-2007, 10:03 PM

I'd love to see Chavez wiped off the planet but his rhetoric is just that. TALK TALK TALK. If he hates us so much then stop selling us your oil. I know many of you feel differently but I have 100 percent confidence that America ends up getting the dollar a bit higher and closing the trade deficit. All Chavez is doing is making us all see the time has come to get off oil. We should break ground on 100 new nuclear power plants ASAP. Electric cars, Hyrdrogen cars, whatever but we need to remove the money from these countries.

Spider · 11-21-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

Find some proof. And no, Spider's drunken recollections, matched with your fevered imagination, don't count.

like the time I busted you about threatening LABF and you tried to wordsmith your way out of it ? that drunken recollection ?

yavoon · 11-21-2007, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

I'd love to see Chavez wiped off the planet but he rhetoric is just that. TALK TALK TALK. If he hates us so much then stop selling us your oil. I know many of you feel differently but I have 100 percent confidence that America ends up getting the dollar a bit higher and closing the trade deficit. All Chavez is doing is making us all see the time has come to get off oil. We should break ground on 100 new nuclear power plants ASAP. Electric cars, Hyrdrogen cars, whatever but we need to remove the money from these countries.

chavez could very well implode his whole economy w/ his communist ramblings and dictates. he has already caused massive food shortages.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/venezuela/...210473,00.html

"Up to a quarter of staple food supplies have been disrupted, according to Datanalisis, a public opinion and economic research group. To Chávez's detractors the scarcity is evidence that his revolutionary "21st century socialism" is driving South America's oil power towards ruin."

Spider · 11-21-2007, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

I got fed up with the little dork when it tried to accuse me of being a racist
and just put it on ignore. Yavoon calling someone else a racist is sort of
akin to Adolph Hitler accusing someone else of being anti-semitic.

I pissed Shítvoon off so bad, by me making fun of how stupid he is , he hasnt talked to me in over a year , and I like it ...... Trust me , there is no limit to Shítvoons stupidity ...... the goofy bastard at one point in time claimed Dennis Northcutt was a far better Receiver then Rod Smith ........

11-21-2007, 09:40 AM	#1
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,079	I guess they don't love US anymore. Back to Story - Help Chavez, Ahmadinejad to work against US By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer Mon Nov 19, 6:27 PM ET The presidents of Venezuela and Iran boasted Monday that they will defeat U.S. imperialism together, saying the fall of the dollar is a prelude to the end of Washington's global dominance. Hugo Chavez's visit to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Tehran followed a failed weekend attempt by the firebrand duo to push the Organization of Petroleum Exporting States away from trading in the slumping greenback. Their proposal at an OPEC summit was overruled by other cartel members led by Saudi Arabia, a strong U.S. ally. But the cartel agreed to have OPEC finance ministers discuss the idea, and the two allies' move showed their potential for stirring up problems for the U.S. The alliance between Chavez and Ahmadinejad has blossomed with several exchanged visits — Monday's was Chavez's fourth time in Tehran in two years — a string of technical agreements and a torrent of rhetoric presenting their two countries as an example of how smaller nations can stand up to the superpower. "Here are two brother countries, united like a single fist," Chavez said upon his arrival in Tehran, according to Venezuela's state-run Bolivarian News Agency. "God willing, with the fall of the dollar, the deviant U.S. imperialism will fall as soon as possible, too," Chavez said after a two-hour closed meeting with Ahmadinejad, the Iranian state news agency IRNA reported. As the dollar weakens, oil prices have soared toward $100 a barrel. Chavez said over the weekend at the OPEC meeting in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, that prices would more than double to $200 if the U.S. attacked Iran or Venezuela. "The U.S. empire is coming down," Chavez told Venezuelan TV, calling the European Union's euro a better option and saying Latin American nations were also considering a common currency. The leftist Venezuelan is a fierce critic of President Bush, and Iran's Islamic government is in a bitter standoff with Washington over Tehran's nuclear program. The U.S. accuses Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, a claim Tehran denies, and Iran has been hit with two rounds of U.N. sanctions for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment. Ahmadinejad backed his "dear brother" Chavez in their joint fight with the Bush administration. "We have common viewpoints and we will stand by each other until we capture the high peaks. God is with us and victory is awaiting us," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by IRNA. He said he and Chavez would stick together to defend their "nations and ideals to the end." During the OPEC meeting, Iran and Venezuela proposed that the cartel begins pricing its oil in a basket of currencies, rather than just the dollar, and wanted the summit to specifically express concern over the dollar's slide in its final statement. Saudi Arabia blocked those moves. Saudi Arabia's foreign minister cautioned that even talking publicly about the currency's decline could further hurt its value. Chavez repeated his warnings that attacking Iran would further increase oil prices. "It's very important that they leave us in peace, the major oil-producing countries," he said. "If it occurs to Bush to invade Iran, I'm sure the Iranians will resist, and they aren't going to allow them to take away their oil, just as we Venezuelans wouldn't allow it," he said. In Tehran, the two presidents signed four memorandums of understanding Monday to create a joint bank, a fund, an oil industry technical training program and an industrial agreement, Iranian state television said. It said Chavez then left after an official farewell ceremony. On Chavez's previous visit in July, the two leaders broke ground for construction of a jointly owned petrochemical complex in Iran, with 51 percent of it in Iranian ownership and 49 percent to be owned by Venezuela. The two nations also began construction of a second petrochemical complex in Venezuela, at a total combined cost of $1.4 billion. Chavez and Ahmadinejad believe their petrochemical partnership will help Iran win markets in Latin America and Venezuela to gain access to Asia's energy market, especially India. Since 2001, the two countries have signed more than 180 trade agreements, worth more than $20 billion in potential investment, according to official reports. Iran has partnered with Venezuela on several industrial projects in the South American nation, including the production of cars, tractors and plastic goods.

11-21-2007, 10:03 PM	#22
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,423	I'd love to see Chavez wiped off the planet but his rhetoric is just that. TALK TALK TALK. If he hates us so much then stop selling us your oil. I know many of you feel differently but I have 100 percent confidence that America ends up getting the dollar a bit higher and closing the trade deficit. All Chavez is doing is making us all see the time has come to get off oil. We should break ground on 100 new nuclear power plants ASAP. Electric cars, Hyrdrogen cars, whatever but we need to remove the money from these countries. Last edited by cutthemdown; 11-21-2007 at 10:12 PM..

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11-21-2007, 10:22 AM	#2
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	(snicker)

11-21-2007, 10:28 AM	#3
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Someone needs an ass kicking.

11-21-2007, 01:09 PM	#4
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,499	I bet Chavez' rhetoric has given LABF a woody.

11-21-2007, 07:36 PM	#5
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	I'll bet the thought of adding Chavez to the "axis of evil" and stealing his oil gives W*GS a little chub.

11-21-2007, 07:44 PM	#6
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,499	This from the guy who posted http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...7&postcount=16 Snort.

11-21-2007, 07:55 PM	#8
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	W*GS with the Faux News narrative. Yawn!

11-21-2007, 07:59 PM	#9
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,499	Still doing your bit as Chavez' "bottom", LABF... Amazing how you can so clearly see the predations of the Bush administration, but lose that clarity when it comes to ol' Hugo. What's your problem? Can't see to the Left?

11-21-2007, 08:44 PM	#11
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Almond Joy and Chavez going to kick our ass ......... Kinda like Pee wee Herman teaming up with Gilligan and starting a reign of terror ............oh wait I forgot there are idiots that was scared ****less of Saddam , so naturally these Idiots live in fear of these 2 turds .............

11-21-2007, 08:45 PM	#12
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Another good thing about this is , there is a Muslim connection so Yavoon will be blissfully happy in his racism.......err spreading love and understanding to the muslim world with human rights as his only weapon ........

11-21-2007, 09:14 PM	#14
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,499	Bzzzznt, LABF. If I'd covered for Bush at all (we all know you've lied about that) your edit would make sense. Since I have not... Come to think of it, I've never seen you criticize Chavez in any way. Why? Even Ro knows the dude is scum.

11-21-2007, 09:34 PM	#16
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	W*GS denying that he has covered for Bush? That's hysterical.

11-21-2007, 09:53 PM	#20
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	But if the "cabana boy" insult was "homophobic" (and thus inappropriate) then, according to your own standards, shouldn't the same thing be said re: your "bottom" remark? Aren't you therefore breaking your own rules and/or operating outside your own value system in making such remarks? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite? (If you answered "yes" to all three then you get an "A+.")

11-21-2007, 09:56 PM	#21
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	@ WGS asking for "proof" that he has defended nearly every move Bush had made. WGS must think we have really short memories.