70 Americans kidnapped: the mainstream media says nada - The Orange Mane

Bob · 11-15-2007, 07:30 PM

To find feuding war lords, rampant death squads and general mayhem, all you have to do is take one step over the Texas border into Nuevo Laredo, Mexico. According to the Dallas Morning News, since 2004 more than 70 Americans have been kidnapped in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico. Over two dozen of the kidnapped Americans are still missing.

The town of Laredo, Texas and Nuevo Laredo, Mexico are linked by a bridge across the Rio Grande. Residents in Laredo say they and their families are afraid to even go out of their house. Unfortunately, the closest media or television station to Laredo is nearly three hours away, so they never cover these stories that have been going on for several years.

On the other side of the border in Mexico, the media is silent as well, because they are basically threatened to not report the violence. “The media on Nuevo Laredo side has been muzzled,” said Laredo Sheriff Rick Flores. “They’re not allowed to report anything that’s going on, especially any violence. They went into a newspaper agency which is called El Manana, and they threw a couple of grenades in there and they sprayed bullets, AK-47s hitting people, paralyzing one. And of course that was just a message that they wanted to pass along to let the media know that they meant business, whenever they wanted the media to stay away from publicizing whatever they were doing.”

The Sheriff of Laredo Texas has seen and heard about many tragic stories from his area. Two young girls were kidnapped and given as a prize to a Mexican drug lord. “They had gone to a concert in Nuevo Lardo, Mexico and they were on their way back when they were stopped apparently by two municipal police officers. And (the girls were) told to get out of the car and they shoved them into a police car and they kidnapped them. What we know is apparently these two girls were then given to one of the drug lords as a prize,” explained Sheriff Flores.

Chris Burgard, filmmaker of the upcoming movie “Border”, spent a lot of time in Laredo in 2005. He explained a type of tree that the media will never tell you about. “This is just not new,” Burgard said. “Rape Trees are . . . the coyotes when they get some of the better looking women on our side of the border, they’ll rape these women often within an earshot of their children, or their parents, or their husbands that are with the rest of the group. Then they’ll have these women hang their panties up on trees, and they become “trophy trees.” This coyote will compare his tree with the fellow down the street. And this is the kind of violence that these ranchers and these residents are living with all up and down the southern border.”

Ranchers and families are scared to get out of their cars at night. “Souhaiterais, Texas, sixty-five miles north of the border . . . Three weeks after I left their ranch (Vickers Ranch) in 2005, at a distance of a few yards, they observed twenty soldiers in black BDUs, automatic weapons . . . first three fellows had state of the art NVG goggles, coming through their ranch. And these twenty soldiers with automatic weapons; their cargo is six civilians. This is sixty-five miles north of the border.”

So don’t let a certain political party cry about the terrible things going on in Baghdad, when there are arguably much worse crimes right in our own backyard.

Where is the outrage?

defenseman · 11-16-2007, 09:10 AM

Why should they say a word. This doesn't meet with the majority of the media's AGENDA, that includes the far left and many politicians of that ilk. They see "VOTES" , not ILLEGAL ALIENS. I'm for forming up a posse, laying low at the border and taking the SOB's out as they attempt to cross the border. Hell I'll be retired in a few months with nothing else to do for a while...dman

Spider · 11-16-2007, 09:20 AM

Huh I have been in several boarder towns , never been Kidnaped , been in a few scuffles ..... Those towns are rough , bad assed , and real easy to find yourself in the wrong part of town real quick ......

ant1999e · 11-16-2007, 09:38 AM

Dare I say if a female fitting Natalie Holloway's description came up missing, it would be all over the news but since it's just another beaner, that's just not as news worthy.

ant1999e · 11-16-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

Huh I have been in several boarder towns , never been Kidnaped , been in a few scuffles ..... Those towns are rough , bad assed , and real easy to find yourself in the wrong part of town real quick ......

Doesn't surprise me. Who would want to kidnapp your ugly ass?

Spider · 11-16-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ant1999e

Doesn't surprise me. Who would want to kidnapp your ugly ass?

....See being ugly does have its perks

Spider · 11-16-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ant1999e

Dare I say if a female fitting Natalie Holloway's description came up missing, it would be all over the news but since it's just another beaner, that's just not as news worthy.

man aint that the truth ........getting to the point where I just cant stand our Media anymore

Bob · 11-16-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

Huh I have been in several boarder towns , never been Kidnaped , been in a few scuffles ..... Those towns are rough , bad assed , and real easy to find yourself in the wrong part of town real quick ......

I think the issue is that you may not be cute enough to give as a gift to the war lords, Sorry Spider...

Bob · 11-16-2007, 04:22 PM

Just heard that Glenn Beck is going to camp out there for two months after Jan 1st to draw attention to the 70 missing Americans.

I think it might be safer to show up with little anoucement -- now the local business comunity, one-world government folks, not to mention those drug lords will have two months to create legal obsticles, and a plan to take the guy out. If I am fighting a war of sorts it makes little sense to announce my tactics. The fact is kidnapping is largely connected to drug money among other things, and drawing attention to it could affect their bottom line -- if they can protect that investment they will.

alkemical · 11-16-2007, 04:47 PM

Glenn Beck is "not so smart" sometimes

Bob · 11-17-2007, 01:15 AM

No, but I at least know where he stands. America first -- to hell with Meximericanada.

I do think that he will be shut down on this one before he gets over there to start broadcasting, but if he is able to do it, perhaps a few more folks (Dems, Repubs, and Americans in general) will learn about this kind of crap and be enraged by the lack of action by our government.

alkemical · 11-17-2007, 01:30 AM

yeah but he's "america first of 1950's visions" - I'm sorry but he's a bit dated and a bit idealistic for me.

loborugger · 11-18-2007, 09:37 AM

If by the mainstream media you mean NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, and Fox, then I would guess you are probably correct. I say guess cuz I dont know, I dont pay them any attention.

The big mass media outlets are looking for a pretty picture and quick sound bite to hook you. Where is the pretty picture for this? Laredo is a lot of things, but pretty aint one of them. And you are probably correct, most these kidnapped folks arent as cute as Natalie Holloway - or that chick who got bounced from the SWA flight in Tucson and is now in Playboy and this for some reason has become a big news story.

However, as the author of this piece pointed out - in the first line - the Dallas Morning News has the facts on this stuff. Many of the TX papers including the El Paso Times and Dallas Morning News cover a lot of stuff related to border issues. The Juarez killings, the Laredo kidnappings, the imprisoning of the two BP agents, etc, etc all get plenty of play in the TX papers. It might not often make it to the front page, but its there.

The thing is that this stuff is out there if you are looking for it. All you have to do is look. And with the internet, and search engines, its now easier than ever for a person in Maine to know whats going on on the border of TX and Mexico. If you are looking to be spoon feed the news that you think is important (and who knows what news you deem important), then you are in my estimation being a bit naive.

Bronco Bob · 11-18-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by loborugger

If by the mainstream media you mean NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, and Fox, then I would guess you are probably correct. I say guess cuz I dont know, I dont pay them any attention.

I wouldn't consider Fox to be mainstream media. More like the GOP propaganda outlet.

alkemical · 11-18-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

I wouldn't consider Fox to be mainstream media. More like the GOP propaganda outlet.

Fox is pretty major. FoxNews is run by allot of clear-channel stations, for their AM format. So i'd say that fox news get's a good bit.

I understand the satire, or sacrasm - but when Rupert owns a vast, vast amount of media - it's, well a big deal.

Bob · 11-18-2007, 11:00 PM

Fox is only as far right as CNN is left -- its just that some folks are still pissed that the right has any voices on TV. Diversity, is only diversity, if that view includes only those left of center, and those that are socialist.

alkemical · 11-18-2007, 11:58 PM

No, i just have a problem with how media ownership is setup - and how little "choice" there is period.

11-15-2007, 07:30 PM	#1
Bob Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,330	70 Americans kidnapped: the mainstream media says nada To find feuding war lords, rampant death squads and general mayhem, all you have to do is take one step over the Texas border into Nuevo Laredo, Mexico. According to the Dallas Morning News, since 2004 more than 70 Americans have been kidnapped in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico. Over two dozen of the kidnapped Americans are still missing. The town of Laredo, Texas and Nuevo Laredo, Mexico are linked by a bridge across the Rio Grande. Residents in Laredo say they and their families are afraid to even go out of their house. Unfortunately, the closest media or television station to Laredo is nearly three hours away, so they never cover these stories that have been going on for several years. On the other side of the border in Mexico, the media is silent as well, because they are basically threatened to not report the violence. “The media on Nuevo Laredo side has been muzzled,” said Laredo Sheriff Rick Flores. “They’re not allowed to report anything that’s going on, especially any violence. They went into a newspaper agency which is called El Manana, and they threw a couple of grenades in there and they sprayed bullets, AK-47s hitting people, paralyzing one. And of course that was just a message that they wanted to pass along to let the media know that they meant business, whenever they wanted the media to stay away from publicizing whatever they were doing.” The Sheriff of Laredo Texas has seen and heard about many tragic stories from his area. Two young girls were kidnapped and given as a prize to a Mexican drug lord. “They had gone to a concert in Nuevo Lardo, Mexico and they were on their way back when they were stopped apparently by two municipal police officers. And (the girls were) told to get out of the car and they shoved them into a police car and they kidnapped them. What we know is apparently these two girls were then given to one of the drug lords as a prize,” explained Sheriff Flores. Chris Burgard, filmmaker of the upcoming movie “Border”, spent a lot of time in Laredo in 2005. He explained a type of tree that the media will never tell you about. “This is just not new,” Burgard said. “Rape Trees are . . . the coyotes when they get some of the better looking women on our side of the border, they’ll rape these women often within an earshot of their children, or their parents, or their husbands that are with the rest of the group. Then they’ll have these women hang their panties up on trees, and they become “trophy trees.” This coyote will compare his tree with the fellow down the street. And this is the kind of violence that these ranchers and these residents are living with all up and down the southern border.” Ranchers and families are scared to get out of their cars at night. “Souhaiterais, Texas, sixty-five miles north of the border . . . Three weeks after I left their ranch (Vickers Ranch) in 2005, at a distance of a few yards, they observed twenty soldiers in black BDUs, automatic weapons . . . first three fellows had state of the art NVG goggles, coming through their ranch. And these twenty soldiers with automatic weapons; their cargo is six civilians. This is sixty-five miles north of the border.” So don’t let a certain political party cry about the terrible things going on in Baghdad, when there are arguably much worse crimes right in our own backyard. Where is the outrage?

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11-16-2007, 09:10 AM	#2
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	Why should they say a word. This doesn't meet with the majority of the media's AGENDA, that includes the far left and many politicians of that ilk. They see "VOTES" , not ILLEGAL ALIENS. I'm for forming up a posse, laying low at the border and taking the SOB's out as they attempt to cross the border. Hell I'll be retired in a few months with nothing else to do for a while...dman

11-16-2007, 09:20 AM	#3
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Huh I have been in several boarder towns , never been Kidnaped , been in a few scuffles ..... Those towns are rough , bad assed , and real easy to find yourself in the wrong part of town real quick ......

11-16-2007, 09:38 AM	#4
ant1999e Ring of Famer WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: BFE Posts: 5,981 Adopt-a-Bronco: Money Ball	Dare I say if a female fitting Natalie Holloway's description came up missing, it would be all over the news but since it's just another beaner, that's just not as news worthy.

11-16-2007, 04:22 PM	#9
Bob Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,330	Just heard that Glenn Beck is going to camp out there for two months after Jan 1st to draw attention to the 70 missing Americans. I think it might be safer to show up with little anoucement -- now the local business comunity, one-world government folks, not to mention those drug lords will have two months to create legal obsticles, and a plan to take the guy out. If I am fighting a war of sorts it makes little sense to announce my tactics. The fact is kidnapping is largely connected to drug money among other things, and drawing attention to it could affect their bottom line -- if they can protect that investment they will.

11-16-2007, 04:47 PM	#10
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,696 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Glenn Beck is "not so smart" sometimes

11-17-2007, 01:15 AM	#11
Bob Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,330	No, but I at least know where he stands. America first -- to hell with Meximericanada. I do think that he will be shut down on this one before he gets over there to start broadcasting, but if he is able to do it, perhaps a few more folks (Dems, Repubs, and Americans in general) will learn about this kind of crap and be enraged by the lack of action by our government.

11-17-2007, 01:30 AM	#12
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,696 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	yeah but he's "america first of 1950's visions" - I'm sorry but he's a bit dated and a bit idealistic for me.

11-18-2007, 09:37 AM	#13
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	If by the mainstream media you mean NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, and Fox, then I would guess you are probably correct. I say guess cuz I dont know, I dont pay them any attention. The big mass media outlets are looking for a pretty picture and quick sound bite to hook you. Where is the pretty picture for this? Laredo is a lot of things, but pretty aint one of them. And you are probably correct, most these kidnapped folks arent as cute as Natalie Holloway - or that chick who got bounced from the SWA flight in Tucson and is now in Playboy and this for some reason has become a big news story. However, as the author of this piece pointed out - in the first line - the Dallas Morning News has the facts on this stuff. Many of the TX papers including the El Paso Times and Dallas Morning News cover a lot of stuff related to border issues. The Juarez killings, the Laredo kidnappings, the imprisoning of the two BP agents, etc, etc all get plenty of play in the TX papers. It might not often make it to the front page, but its there. The thing is that this stuff is out there if you are looking for it. All you have to do is look. And with the internet, and search engines, its now easier than ever for a person in Maine to know whats going on on the border of TX and Mexico. If you are looking to be spoon feed the news that you think is important (and who knows what news you deem important), then you are in my estimation being a bit naive.

11-18-2007, 11:00 PM	#16
Bob Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,330	Fox is only as far right as CNN is left -- its just that some folks are still pissed that the right has any voices on TV. Diversity, is only diversity, if that view includes only those left of center, and those that are socialist.

11-18-2007, 11:58 PM	#17
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,696 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	No, i just have a problem with how media ownership is setup - and how little "choice" there is period.