Who leads the NFL in tackles? - The Orange Mane

cmhargrove · 11-15-2007, 05:10 PM

1. Patrick Willis - 88

A few spots down is our boy DJ Williams with 75, tied with Ray Lewis.

DJ has more tackles than:
Nick Barnett
DeMeco Ryans
Kirk Morrison
Derrick Brooks
Donnie Edwards
Brian Urlacher
Lance Briggs
AJ Hawk

There are others down that list, but statistically, DJ is coming along. I just want to see him decleat a few guys or get a personal foul for roughing someone or starting a fight. Maybe he could poke someone in the eye or bite an ear off...

Atwater His Ass · 11-15-2007, 05:17 PM

I'd rather see him make some game changing plays every now and again.

I'm not a DJ hater, and I think it's only fair to judge his performance after the season is over, but he needs to make some plays, imo.

ColoradoDarin · 11-15-2007, 05:38 PM

I'm just happy that DJ looks like he's getting adjusted to the new position. Still not perfect, but it's only been a few games. Still I'd really like to see him at WLB and Ian gone.

That One Guy · 11-15-2007, 05:47 PM

If on 1st and 2nd down you stop the offense for a loss of 2 each time but give up 30 on 3rd down, how good are you really doing?

I think the issue with him is that he's getting better but is just out of place too much still, making bad decisions, etc

BroncoMan4ever · 11-15-2007, 06:16 PM

we should have traded up for Willis

-Slap- · 11-15-2007, 06:19 PM

It would have definitely been the right move. We could have added the best offensive player in the SEC and the best defensive player in the SEC in successive drafts.

Atlas · 11-15-2007, 06:47 PM

too bad DJ is making all his tackles 8 yards down field.

cmhargrove · 11-15-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

too bad DJ is making all his tackles 8 yards down field.

True, but what if we fix our D-line next year with a top tier DT (or two)?

Kaylore · 11-15-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

It would have definitely been the right move. We could have added the best offensive player in the SEC and the best defensive player in the SEC in successive drafts.

Not for the cost. Willis would have been awesome here, but unless none of the other picks work out, which I doubt, then it would have been too much to throw at one guy. After the combine he was pretty much out of our grasp.

AboveAverage · 11-15-2007, 07:58 PM

I really want to hop on the DJ sucks bandwagon, but I'm just not ready yet. These next seven games will go far in figuring his future at the position.

Atlas · 11-15-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

True, but what if we fix our D-line next year with a top tier DT (or two)?

Yeah that's the plan. Get some great DTs to anchor that line.

Cito Pelon · 11-15-2007, 08:30 PM

Dj is 17th in solo tackles, so let's not get all excited.

Also, Denver has had the most rushing plays run against them in the League, but DJ is 17th in solo tackles and 7th in total tackles. That's actually kind of pathetic.

Popps · 11-15-2007, 08:50 PM

I can't figure out the DJ apologist thing around here. Here's a guy who's done nothing but barely live up to lowered expectations, and people just can't quit coming up with creative ways to defend his very average play. I could understand it if it were a once-great player, but the guy's never been anything beyond a warm body out there... usually worse.

Garcia Bronco · 11-15-2007, 08:54 PM

We wanted Willis...we just couldn't get there.

SoCalBronco · 11-15-2007, 09:03 PM

Yawn.....i'm enjoying the haters collective circle jerk.

Florida_Bronco · 11-15-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Yawn.....i'm enjoying the haters collective circle jerk.

I think DJ is gonna do great for us at MLB, as he's shown alot of potential and a nasty streak we haven't really seen out of him before.

As with any team running Bates' system, it all starts at DT and right now we are kinda weak there. Once that improves it will send ripples through this defense, especially for DJ.

chaz · 11-16-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

I think DJ is gonna do great for us at MLB, as he's shown alot of potential and a nasty streak we haven't really seen out of him before.

As with any team running Bates' system, it all starts at DT and right now we are kinda weak there. Once that improves it will send ripples through this defense, especially for DJ.

could not agree more, great post

Requiem · 11-16-2007, 03:27 AM

Patrick Willis was out of our range before he was even a senior. Anyone who watched him play at Ole Miss would know this.

eddie mac · 11-16-2007, 06:33 AM

If anyone thinks that Denver will sort it's DT positions out in 1 offseason then think again. They've been attempting to sort it for nigh on 10 years but as most know flinging **** at a wall rarely sticks. Have a look at the turnover at the position over the last few years.

It used to be we'd give players a season or 2 to justify their worth. Now they're that bad some of them only last 8 games.

kappys · 11-16-2007, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by eddie mac

If anyone thinks that Denver will sort it's DT positions out in 1 offseason then think again. They've been attempting to sort it for nigh on 10 years but as most know flinging **** at a wall rarely sticks. Have a look at the turnover at the position over the last few years.

It used to be we'd give players a season or 2 to justify their worth. Now they're that bad some of them only last 8 games.

Personally I think the LB situation is even more critical. Webster and Gold must go, IMO they are the weakest links on that defense. DJ is an average linebacker - starter quality but by no means a great or even very good player.

azbroncfan · 11-16-2007, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Yawn.....i'm enjoying the haters collective circle jerk.

Yeah he has definately played better last couple games but I would dare wager that Denver's D is in the top 5 D's for offensive plays ran against.

cmhargrove · 11-16-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kappys

Personally I think the LB situation is even more critical. Webster and Gold must go, IMO they are the weakest links on that defense. DJ is an average linebacker - starter quality but by no means a great or even very good player.

I disagree. Even average linebackers can look pretty good with a great D-line. And, the D-line also makes the game easier on safeties and corners.

cmhargrove · 11-16-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

Yeah that's the plan. Get some great DTs to anchor that line.

'you bein' facecious wit' me??

cmhargrove · 11-16-2007, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

I can't figure out the DJ apologist thing around here. Here's a guy who's done nothing but barely live up to lowered expectations, and people just can't quit coming up with creative ways to defend his very average play. I could understand it if it were a once-great player, but the guy's never been anything beyond a warm body out there... usually worse.

Chill out dude, I was just looking at the tackles list. It speaks for itself. Willis will be a stud. DJ has the same number of plays as Ray Lewis and more tackles than Urlacher or Briggs. Just let the data speak.

His rookie year was much more than a "warm body" experience. I am not an apologist (necessarily) but how many other linebackers have you seen that excel at all linebacking potitions? Especially when those three switches have come in three years? It's not easy, and its hard to figure out whether to blame DJ, or what the coaches have asked of him.

Beantown Bronco · 11-16-2007, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

how many other linebackers have you seen that excel at all linebacking potitions?

I'll let you know when I see DJ excel at one.

11-15-2007, 05:10 PM	#1
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,423 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Who leads the NFL in tackles? 1. Patrick Willis - 88 A few spots down is our boy DJ Williams with 75, tied with Ray Lewis. DJ has more tackles than: Nick Barnett DeMeco Ryans Kirk Morrison Derrick Brooks Donnie Edwards Brian Urlacher Lance Briggs AJ Hawk There are others down that list, but statistically, DJ is coming along. I just want to see him decleat a few guys or get a personal foul for roughing someone or starting a fight. Maybe he could poke someone in the eye or bite an ear off...

11-15-2007, 08:30 PM	#12
Cito Pelon Attack at all times . . . Happy dog at the Divide Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AFC West Championshipville Posts: 15,273 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Dj is 17th in solo tackles, so let's not get all excited. Also, Denver has had the most rushing plays run against them in the League, but DJ is 17th in solo tackles and 7th in total tackles. That's actually kind of pathetic. Last edited by Cito Pelon; 11-15-2007 at 08:32 PM..

11-15-2007, 09:03 PM	#15
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,507 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	Yawn.....i'm enjoying the haters collective circle jerk. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

11-16-2007, 06:33 AM	#19
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,578 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	If anyone thinks that Denver will sort it's DT positions out in 1 offseason then think again. They've been attempting to sort it for nigh on 10 years but as most know flinging **** at a wall rarely sticks. Have a look at the turnover at the position over the last few years. It used to be we'd give players a season or 2 to justify their worth. Now they're that bad some of them only last 8 games. Last edited by eddie mac; 11-16-2007 at 06:36 AM..

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11-15-2007, 05:17 PM	#2
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,374 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I'd rather see him make some game changing plays every now and again. I'm not a DJ hater, and I think it's only fair to judge his performance after the season is over, but he needs to make some plays, imo.

11-15-2007, 05:38 PM	#3
ColoradoDarin Ring of Famer AFCW Champs! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon's Shoe	I'm just happy that DJ looks like he's getting adjusted to the new position. Still not perfect, but it's only been a few games. Still I'd really like to see him at WLB and Ian gone.

11-15-2007, 05:47 PM	#4
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	If on 1st and 2nd down you stop the offense for a loss of 2 each time but give up 30 on 3rd down, how good are you really doing? I think the issue with him is that he's getting better but is just out of place too much still, making bad decisions, etc

11-15-2007, 06:16 PM	#5
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,679 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	we should have traded up for Willis

11-15-2007, 06:19 PM	#6
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	It would have definitely been the right move. We could have added the best offensive player in the SEC and the best defensive player in the SEC in successive drafts.

11-15-2007, 06:47 PM	#7
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	too bad DJ is making all his tackles 8 yards down field.

11-15-2007, 07:58 PM	#10
AboveAverage Master Baiter Eh? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 1,476	I really want to hop on the DJ sucks bandwagon, but I'm just not ready yet. These next seven games will go far in figuring his future at the position.

11-15-2007, 08:50 PM	#13
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,792	I can't figure out the DJ apologist thing around here. Here's a guy who's done nothing but barely live up to lowered expectations, and people just can't quit coming up with creative ways to defend his very average play. I could understand it if it were a once-great player, but the guy's never been anything beyond a warm body out there... usually worse.

11-15-2007, 08:54 PM	#14
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	We wanted Willis...we just couldn't get there.

11-16-2007, 03:27 AM	#18
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,866 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Patrick Willis was out of our range before he was even a senior. Anyone who watched him play at Ole Miss would know this.