The second half bounce back team? - The Orange Mane

lex · 11-13-2007, 10:05 AM

What team that had a rough first half do you think will finish with a strong second half of the season?

Im going with St Louis.

Sassy · 11-13-2007, 10:09 AM

I'm going with the Broncos!

lex · 11-13-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

I'm going with the Broncos!

I thought about that as our schedule gets easier but we still have struggles against the run. It seems like there is a pattern of inconsistency. We had the good game vs Pittsburgh then it fell off vs GB and Detroit.

Crushaholic · 11-13-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

I'm going with the Broncos!

Same here. I thought that was where this thread was going, and then lex mentioned St. Louis...

lex · 11-13-2007, 10:22 AM

Not being able to stop the run is one of the worst problems to have.

ColoradoBuff · 11-13-2007, 10:23 AM

Denver, St.Louis and Arizona

ICON · 11-13-2007, 10:25 AM

DENVER BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Sassy · 11-13-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lex

Not being able to stop the run is one of the worst problems to have.

KC was held to 67 yards in THEIR OWN HOUSE...in a place where the Broncos haven't won in five years...It's a darn good start! GO BRONCOS!

55CrushEm · 11-13-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

KC was held to 67 yards in THEIR OWN HOUSE...in a place where the Broncos haven't won in five years...It's a darn good start! GO BRONCOS!

Yeah, but we had 8 in the box an awful lot....and we were going against a RB who hasn't started a game in 2 years.....

....but I'll take it.

FantomForce · 11-13-2007, 10:40 AM

Go Broncos!!!

Dandaman · 11-13-2007, 10:42 AM

umm, the BRONCOS!!!

lex · 11-13-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

KC was held to 67 yards in THEIR OWN HOUSE...in a place where the Broncos haven't won in five years...It's a darn good start! GO BRONCOS!

Like I said though. The defense stiffened up vs Pittsburgh and then laid an egg the next two games. They need to do it more than one out of three games.

Sassy · 11-13-2007, 10:51 AM

I think that the W and the four turnovers will help them out... a shot of confidence if there ever was one. Yeah, we might be short on talent...but a W on the road can do wonders.

55CrushEm · 11-13-2007, 11:03 AM

Tennessee will be a tough task this week......

IMO, they are very similar to Jacksonville....

1. Both have very good defenses
2. Both have merely okay offenses
3. Both have black QB's who like to run
4. Both like to grind out the game on long drives

and while we're at it....

4. Both are 6-3
5. Both in the AFC South

2KBack · 11-13-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lex

Like I said though. The defense stiffened up vs Pittsburgh and then laid an egg the next two games. They need to do it more than one out of three games.

They didn't lay and egg VS Green bay. In the end it looked that way, but the whole team played pretty well that day. I'd argue that the defense was better than it was against Pitt.

ScottXray · 11-13-2007, 11:45 AM

There is a difference in the second half.

Several non-performers are now gone or riding the bench and we picked up some help in the d-line. The experience for the rookies and second year guys is starting to show up.

Bates also apparently decided to adapt to the fact we were getting hammered against the run.

On the other hand we have lost several other players to injury since the Jacksonville game.

1. Overall our pass rush is slowly improving. We at least are starting to get close to the QB if not in on him. And one thing that is happening is the rush is not losing contain as much. Containment is going to be a key against Young. We need to blitz him from every side but disguise it. He doesn't read defenses well. If we can get to him in reasonable time he'll dump it or run. You cannot give him a lane to take off in.

Young is just plain dangerous as a runner. He is BIG and strong. The LBers and rushers are going to have to play smart and use the angles to cut him off...most of all wrap up and tackle low.

2. The LB play is improving...mostly because the D-line is not getting pushed back as much.

3. Abdullah helped the safety play last week..He should remain active from now on.

If we can get Lynch back for leadership back there and the rookies keep improving we should have a good second half...The defense cannot go back to the vanilla crap. We need to keep blitzing and playing to stop the run.
We can keep it up this Monday, I hope. Time to start a NEW home field advantage.

lex · 11-13-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

They didn't lay and egg VS Green bay. In the end it looked that way, but the whole team played pretty well that day. I'd argue that the defense was better than it was against Pitt.

Feel free. No skin off my nose.

2KBack · 11-13-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lex

Feel free. No skin off my nose.

sure, They gave up fewer rushing yards on more attempts, they only gave up 13 points in regulation (19 overall) vs. 28 in regulation against Pitt. Hell half of their passing yards came on 2 passes, they hurt, but 2 plays does not a bad defense make. Especially since one was at Champs expense and we know he is better than that. Hell without the flubbed holding penalty on MArshall, the game wouldn't have even made it into over time overtime and it would have been a convincing victory over one of the better teams in the league. A couple big plays hurt them, and you can't take those out, but overall it was a better defensive performance. I mean damn, they gave up more points in the 4th quarter against Pitt than in regulation against GB.

lex · 11-13-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

sure, They gave up fewer rushing yards on more attempts, they only gave up 13 points in regulation (19 overall) vs. 28 in regulation against Pitt. Hell half of their passing yards came on 2 passes, they hurt, but 2 plays does not a bad defense make. Especially since one was at Champs expense and we know he is better than that. Hell without the flubbed holding penalty on MArshall, the game wouldn't have even made it into over time overtime and it would have been a convincing victory over one of the better teams in the league. A couple big plays hurt them, and you can't take those out, but overall it was a better defensive performance. I mean damn, they gave up more points in the 4th quarter against Pitt than in regulation against GB.

I dont think Green Bay is nearly as good as Pittsburgh. And those long plays count, healthy champ or not. Besides that, we didnt even have Champ against Pittsburgh. Green Bay was a one dimensional team going in and our defense gave way in the run and the pass. I know Green Bay is 8-1 but if we would have won against both GB and Pitt, Pitt is the more impressive win. Plus against Pitt, the defense created a TD. Our D Line gave Pitts D all they could handle...not so much vs Green Bay.

crush17 · 11-13-2007, 12:27 PM

I say the Eagles.

bowtown · 11-13-2007, 12:30 PM

The Patriots

Beantown Bronco · 11-13-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by crush17

I say the Eagles.

I was originally thinking the Eagles too, but considering the division they are in, they would REALLY have to step it up to make a significant run. I just don't see how they could finish any better than third in that division.

I'd tend to go with NFC teams for obvious reasons. Seahawks (even though they are in first anyway, their record was only 4-4 at the halfway mark. They will do better), Saints, and Rams.

AFC? Broncos definitely qualify. I can't think of anyone else, though. AFC East will remain more or less the same. Texans are the only disappointment in the south and there's no way they will "bounce back" in that division. And the north? I just don't see any significant potential movement there either.

broncofan2438 · 11-13-2007, 01:01 PM

Broncos should finish out strong. the KC game showed us something, but also some things they need to work on

2KBack · 11-13-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lex

I dont think Green Bay is nearly as good as Pittsburgh.

The only way to know would be to check out similar opponents. Has Green Bay beaten anyone that Pittsburgh hasn't?

lex · 11-13-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

The only way to know would be to check out similar opponents. Has Green Bay beaten anyone that Pittsburgh hasn't?

Youre alluding to Denver no doubt. A mahor problem with is that theres an assumption that teams play at the same level every game. They dont. Pittsburgh has a better OLine, and a better running game, and probably a better defense. The only advantage GB might have on GB is at QB...and even thats debatable. Chicago is GBs only loss and theyre also a 4-5 team.

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11-13-2007, 10:09 AM	#2
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I'm going with the *Broncos*!

11-13-2007, 10:22 AM	#5
lex Bowlen Sold Us Out! The Broncos have been DisemBowlened Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 10,253 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Not being able to stop the run is one of the worst problems to have.

11-13-2007, 10:23 AM	#6
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11-13-2007, 10:25 AM	#7
ICON \|^\|Punter of Gnomes\|^\| Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..Snap! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long Beach Posts: 2,607 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	DENVER BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

11-13-2007, 10:40 AM	#10
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11-13-2007, 10:42 AM	#11
Dandaman Solid Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: OC, CA Posts: 244	umm, the BRONCOS!!!

11-13-2007, 10:51 AM	#13
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I think that the W and the four turnovers will help them out... a shot of confidence if there ever was one. Yeah, we might be short on talent...but a W on the road can do wonders.

11-13-2007, 11:03 AM	#14
55CrushEm Dynamic Duo Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of Boston, MA Posts: 5,592 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quanterus Smith	Tennessee will be a tough task this week...... IMO, they are very similar to Jacksonville.... 1. Both have very good defenses 2. Both have merely okay offenses 3. Both have black QB's who like to run 4. Both like to grind out the game on long drives and while we're at it.... 4. Both are 6-3 5. Both in the AFC South

11-13-2007, 11:45 AM	#16
ScottXray Opinionated A**** Love Me some PANCAKES!** Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: PDX (Portland OR) Posts: 4,663 Adopt-a-Bronco: J. D. Walton	There is a difference in the second half. Several non-performers are now gone or riding the bench and we picked up some help in the d-line. The experience for the rookies and second year guys is starting to show up. Bates also apparently decided to adapt to the fact we were getting hammered against the run. On the other hand we have lost several other players to injury since the Jacksonville game. 1. Overall our pass rush is slowly improving. We at least are starting to get close to the QB if not in on him. And one thing that is happening is the rush is not losing contain as much. Containment is going to be a key against Young. We need to blitz him from every side but disguise it. He doesn't read defenses well. If we can get to him in reasonable time he'll dump it or run. You cannot give him a lane to take off in. Young is just plain dangerous as a runner. He is BIG and strong. The LBers and rushers are going to have to play smart and use the angles to cut him off...most of all wrap up and tackle low. 2. The LB play is improving...mostly because the D-line is not getting pushed back as much. 3. Abdullah helped the safety play last week..He should remain active from now on. If we can get Lynch back for leadership back there and the rookies keep improving we should have a good second half...The defense cannot go back to the vanilla crap. We need to keep blitzing and playing to stop the run. We can keep it up this Monday, I hope. Time to start a NEW home field advantage.

11-13-2007, 12:27 PM	#20
crush17 orange & blue Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 2,662 Adopt-a-Bronco: DT88	I say the Eagles.

11-13-2007, 12:30 PM	#21
bowtown Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,275 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	The Patriots

11-13-2007, 01:01 PM	#23
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	Broncos should finish out strong. the KC game showed us something, but also some things they need to work on