Positives: Special teams looks like a real special teams unit - The Orange Mane

Kaylore · 11-04-2007, 05:24 PM

Thank you Andre Hall for making our special teams not suck. And thank you Scott O'Brien for slowly beginning to fix the worst unit and the league. They've been getting better and better every week. They are starting to look respectable.

ColoradoDarin · 11-04-2007, 05:30 PM

That's something I've noticed over the last few games that I've been able to watch (thankfully they didn't have the game in my area today). But last week I commented on how improved our ST looked against Green Bay.

The MVPlaya · 11-04-2007, 05:31 PM

Yeah we have gotten better. I just want to see a returner who has "it."

It's rare to find in the NFL, but Andre Hall has done an exceptional job.

summerdenver · 11-04-2007, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Thank you Andre Hall for making our special teams not suck. And thank you Scott O'Brien for slowly beginning to fix the worst unit and the league. They've been getting better and better every week. They are starting to look respectable.

Thanks for starting positive thread. I am highly demoralized with the loss and need some postives to look forward to. You are right about ths - As per DVOA ranking of football outsiders we got up to lows 20s from 32 in special team rankings. Infact we were also showing some steady improvement on offense till Myers & co took a couple steps back.

Popps · 11-04-2007, 07:29 PM

We missed a FG, had a couple of O.K. returns and a couple of bad ones.

Did I miss a blocked punt or a return for a TD?

We didn't totally blow. Maybe that qualifies as "bright spot" for us these days.

RhymesayersDU · 11-04-2007, 07:36 PM

Kickoff returns were indeed a lot better.

I always wondered this, is returns a coaching thing, or a special player type thing? I mean, guys like Dante Hall, Devin Hester... You just have to find them, don't you? I mean, you coach blocking schemes and whatnot, but ultimately, it's on the guy with the ball, right?

Goobzilla · 11-04-2007, 07:38 PM

If sucking less is getting better, then we're getting better. I'll take any good news I can get.

Rock Chalk · 11-04-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

We missed a FG, had a couple of O.K. returns and a couple of bad ones.

Did I miss a blocked punt or a return for a TD?

We didn't totally blow. Maybe that qualifies as "bright spot" for us these days.

Coverage and returns have improved. Just because we havent hit a homerun on a return or blocked a kick does not mean that they havent improved. That, my angry little friend, is the bright spot. Improvement somewhere.

Kaylore · 11-05-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Kickoff returns were indeed a lot better.

I always wondered this, is returns a coaching thing, or a special player type thing? I mean, guys like Dante Hall, Devin Hester... You just have to find them, don't you? I mean, you coach blocking schemes and whatnot, but ultimately, it's on the guy with the ball, right?

Game breaking return men are pure talent. You can't coach it. However a lot of special teams is nothing but equal parts desire and discipline. If you have those two things the rest will fall into place with any half decent coordinator.

Popps · 11-05-2007, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alec

That, my angry little friend

b****, please.

I guess it was nice not to suck. We did have one return out to the 40.

You're correct, not sucking is better than sucking.

Houshyamama · 11-05-2007, 01:47 AM

This thread is depressing. This is the only positive we can take from the game, that our special teams unit sucked less?

Wow.

Wake me up when the draft starts.

Popps · 11-05-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Houshyamama

This thread is depressing. This is the only positive we can take from the game, that our special teams unit sucked less?

Wow.

Wake me up when the draft starts.

Dude, you'd better clean that attitude and jump aboard the "Our STs don't suck as much" train before you get left at the station.

missingnumber7 · 11-05-2007, 06:29 AM

29 yard return ave is an huge improvement over what it has been all season. The fact it we have finally found a returner and it isn't Martinez.

Man-Goblin · 11-05-2007, 08:36 AM

Hmmm, I guess another positive and getting your ass handed to you is that you get a lot of practice returning kicks...

broncosteven · 11-05-2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Thank you Andre Hall for making our special teams not suck. And thank you Scott O'Brien for slowly beginning to fix the worst unit and the league. They've been getting better and better every week. They are starting to look respectable.

I guess they were ok in the 1st half, CBS cut to SD Minn game so I didn't see much of rest of game.

I thought the only respectable person out there was Greek, He was there to tend Travis Henry's ouchies all day.

Kaylore · 11-19-2007, 10:04 PM

TITANS UPDATE***

If we win this game we can credit Scott O'Brien. Say what you will about this team, but O'Brien was give garbage to work with at the beginning of the season and slowly he's righted this ship from less sucky, to respectable to scoring our first special teams touchdown since the Roosevelt administration. I love that man!

Kaylore · 11-19-2007, 10:28 PM

Woops. Looks like I jinxed it.

Hogan11 · 11-19-2007, 11:48 PM

I see Stokley was instrumental once again....do I really have to say throw to the guy more yet again??

Sign him up long term right now!

Merlin · 11-19-2007, 11:52 PM

It would be nice if they extended his contract, before it gets too expensive.

Kaylore, despite the flub, the ST did look even better. They have gone from improving to avg, to pretty good in the last 3 games. Even the D is beginning to show signs of improvement.

Kaylore · 11-19-2007, 11:54 PM

I agree. They've turned this thing around and I think we're out of the woods.

Kaylore · 11-20-2007, 04:41 PM

bump!

broncofan2438 · 11-20-2007, 04:44 PM

Great job last night

Cito Pelon · 11-20-2007, 05:06 PM

Yah, the ST's have been overlooked somewhat in the better all-around play. ST's are a huge deal in the NFL. It's a three-phase game, four if you count the coaching staff. You need at least two phases playing solid football to make the playoffs. Denver I think has that now - the ST's and the O. The D is at least contributing TO's, and that's a big dang deal also. Denver is just about even on TO ratio right now I think, maybe -1. They were at -8 two games ago.

So the ST's contributing with field position and a TD, and the D getting TO's has helped enormously the one phase that was solid for the first 6 games, the O.

Denver is getting close to the solid three-phase game that makes Titles.

11-04-2007, 05:24 PM	#1
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Positives: Special teams looks like a real special teams unit Thank you Andre Hall for making our special teams not suck. And thank you Scott O'Brien for slowly beginning to fix the worst unit and the league. They've been getting better and better every week. They are starting to look respectable.

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11-04-2007, 05:30 PM	#2
ColoradoDarin Ring of Famer AFCW Champs! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5,525 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon's Shoe	That's something I've noticed over the last few games that I've been able to watch (thankfully they didn't have the game in my area today). But last week I commented on how improved our ST looked against Green Bay.

11-04-2007, 05:31 PM	#3
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	Yeah we have gotten better. I just want to see a returner who has "it." It's rare to find in the NFL, but Andre Hall has done an exceptional job.

11-04-2007, 07:29 PM	#5
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,786	We missed a FG, had a couple of O.K. returns and a couple of bad ones. Did I miss a blocked punt or a return for a TD? We didn't totally blow. Maybe that qualifies as "bright spot" for us these days.

11-04-2007, 07:36 PM	#6
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,813 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Kickoff returns were indeed a lot better. I always wondered this, is returns a coaching thing, or a special player type thing? I mean, guys like Dante Hall, Devin Hester... You just have to find them, don't you? I mean, you coach blocking schemes and whatnot, but ultimately, it's on the guy with the ball, right?

11-04-2007, 07:38 PM	#7
Goobzilla Lights Out B*h! BA-ZING!!** Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wellington Posts: 6,526 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mitch Erickson	If sucking less is getting better, then we're getting better. I'll take any good news I can get.

11-05-2007, 01:47 AM	#11
Houshyamama I Make The Weather Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,864 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brock Osweiler	This thread is depressing. This is the only positive we can take from the game, that our special teams unit sucked less? Wow. Wake me up when the draft starts.

11-05-2007, 06:29 AM	#13
missingnumber7 Vote Joe Mays to Pro Bowl Joe 4 Pro Bowl ST's Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bismarck Posts: 4,760 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	29 yard return ave is an huge improvement over what it has been all season. The fact it we have finally found a returner and it isn't Martinez.

11-05-2007, 08:36 AM	#14
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Hmmm, I guess another positive and getting your ass handed to you is that you get a lot of practice returning kicks...

11-19-2007, 10:04 PM	#16
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	TITANS UPDATE*** If we win this game we can credit Scott O'Brien. Say what you will about this team, but O'Brien was give garbage to work with at the beginning of the season and slowly he's righted this ship from less sucky, to respectable to scoring our first special teams touchdown since the Roosevelt administration. I love that man!

11-19-2007, 10:28 PM	#17
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Woops. Looks like I jinxed it.

11-19-2007, 11:48 PM	#18
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	I see Stokley was instrumental once again....do I really have to say throw to the guy more yet again?? Sign him up long term right now!

11-19-2007, 11:52 PM	#19
Merlin Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,798	It would be nice if they extended his contract, before it gets too expensive. Kaylore, despite the flub, the ST did look even better. They have gone from improving to avg, to pretty good in the last 3 games. Even the D is beginning to show signs of improvement.

11-19-2007, 11:54 PM	#20
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I agree. They've turned this thing around and I think we're out of the woods.

11-20-2007, 04:41 PM	#21
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	bump!

11-20-2007, 04:44 PM	#22
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	Great job last night

11-20-2007, 05:06 PM	#23
Cito Pelon Attack at all times . . . Happy dog at the Divide Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AFC West Championshipville Posts: 15,197 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Yah, the ST's have been overlooked somewhat in the better all-around play. ST's are a huge deal in the NFL. It's a three-phase game, four if you count the coaching staff. You need at least two phases playing solid football to make the playoffs. Denver I think has that now - the ST's and the O. The D is at least contributing TO's, and that's a big dang deal also. Denver is just about even on TO ratio right now I think, maybe -1. They were at -8 two games ago. So the ST's contributing with field position and a TD, and the D getting TO's has helped enormously the one phase that was solid for the first 6 games, the O. Denver is getting close to the solid three-phase game that makes Titles.