Even in victory, Broncos' flaws are obvious - The Orange Mane

maher_tyler · 10-22-2007, 02:54 AM

Whats a complete douche bag...were not the Patriots but damn..we do have a lot of potential on both sides of the ball..thoughts...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...8&sportCat=nfl

SoCalBronco · 10-22-2007, 03:00 AM

"False sense of bravado"? Wow...thats pretty funny stuff. What a douche.

That was one of the more inspiring games you'll see in this football season.

No one is saying we are complete badasses or even close to elite. But to piss on us and degrade us throughout the article with slights here and there after we pulled off a pretty amazing win and really showed what Bronco heart, grit and determination is all about is pretty ****ing weak.

It's not surprising though. It is ESPN after all.

I'd kindly advise Gene Wojciechowski to go **** himself with an industrial grade sandpaper condom.

Jens1893 · 10-22-2007, 03:03 AM

So, Mr. Wojciechowski, what are our flaws? You sure did a nice job pointing them out in the article.

DB_champ24 · 10-22-2007, 03:04 AM

That guy must really not like the Broncos..What an idiot, he basically gave them no credit and obviously doesnt have any idea about this team

Popps · 10-22-2007, 03:06 AM

he Broncos insist that the last-second victory was no accident

Hey ****-nut, we were never behind in the game. It shouldn't have even been close. A couple of bad plays and blown calls by the refs made it interesting.

Good god, I usually don't buy the "they hate us" stuff as far as writers go, but this guy MUST be a Steelers fan. Even Boob came in and said "good game." This guy has issues.

Jens1893 · 10-22-2007, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

he Broncos insist that the last-second victory was no accident

Hey ****-nut, we were never behind in the game. It shouldn't have even been close. A couple of bad plays and blown calls by the refs made it interesting.

Good god, I usually don't buy the "they hate us" stuff as far as writers go, but this guy MUST be a Steelers fan. Even Boob came in and said "good game." This guy has issues.

We actually were for a few minutes in the first quarter.

Popps · 10-22-2007, 03:09 AM

Is it a good thing when the best player on your team is the place-kicker?

Now, does this ****-brain really believe that, or does he think it's "edgy" writing? Either way, it's laughable.

The two home games are against the Packers and Tennessee. So good luck with that.

Yea, because the Titans and Packers are so much better than the Steelers.

Did ESPN just pull this guy out of a sports bar or something?

Popps · 10-22-2007, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens1893

We actually were for a few minutes in the first quarter.

True. First possession. Then never again.

Point being, this guy acts like Pitt dominated and we pulled off a lucky squeaker at the end. What an ass-much.

BroncoBuff · 10-22-2007, 03:13 AM

We benefitted greatly tonight from scraping the Bates defense and going with Tampa cover 2, alternating with 8 in the box. Those different looks and the unusual amount of blitzing took awhile for the Steelers offense to adjust to.

bpc · 10-22-2007, 03:14 AM

Laughable article by a D level writer. Try to hide that terrible towel in your office Gene.

Popps · 10-22-2007, 03:14 AM

By the way, for any silly Steelers fans wondering about the series history... we lead it Denver leads 16 wins to 9 losses, and I'd bet it's even more lopsided in the past decade.

wabbit · 10-22-2007, 03:16 AM

I can understand the outsider skepticism, frankly, after getting laid waste 41-3 at home 2 weeks ago, but you'd think that maybe...just maybe the Broncos would have earned a 'determined' label over 'lucky'.

CBF1 · 10-22-2007, 03:21 AM

This fool is not good enough to cover preseason, let alone a game that matters. Is it any wonder I no longer stop by espin?

Jens1893 · 10-22-2007, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

True. First possession. Then never again.

Point being, this guy acts like Pitt dominated and we pulled off a lucky squeaker at the end. What an ass-much.

No argument from my side, but I just thought I´d point it out myself before a troll comes flying in.

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The two home games are against the Packers and Tennessee. So good luck with that.

Yea, because the Titans and Packers are so much better than the Steelers.

Not to mention that we have hardly been invincible at home lately.

Popps · 10-22-2007, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wabbit

I can understand the outsider skepticism, frankly, after getting laid waste 41-3 at home 2 weeks ago, but you'd think that maybe...just maybe the Broncos would have earned a 'determined' label over 'lucky'.

I don't think anyone would argue that we've played like garbage. You're right, though. It's just a strange, angry slant to take towards a team who played a hard-fought, entertaining football game and won in a prime-time game.
It did seem oddly personal.

ColoradoDarin · 10-22-2007, 03:23 AM

What do I think? ESPN sucks and should be ignored at every opportunity (aka "ESPN ruins everything it touches").

Ways in which I have changed:

1. Don't get any sports info from ESPN.com.
2. Don't watch Sportscenter/NFL Live/"original" programming.
3. Avoid all ESPN/ABC related sports as much as possible - which is tough with NASCAR on ABC (their coverage sucks) and MNF (3 hours of PTI and my TV on mute).

TDmvp · 10-22-2007, 03:24 AM

we won with maybe the 2 best players on the team in streets and this guy writes this turd of a artical ..... you stay classy Wojokeski ...
what a douche bag sandwich even ....

Jens1893 · 10-22-2007, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

I don't think anyone would argue that we've played like garbage. You're right, though. It's just a strange, angry slant to take towards a team who played a hard-fought, entertaining football game and won in a prime-time game.
It did seem oddly personal.

Maybe he had an article to the tune of "Steelers return to dominance, whip aside sorry Broncos" all but finished and was just pissed that he had to write a whole new article after the game.

missingnumber7 · 10-22-2007, 03:27 AM

Once again...I wonder why anyone from this website ever reads anything from ESPN because it always causes a workup of emotions over their inability to actually cover a team and know anything about it. ESPN cares about 3 teams in the AFC, the PATs obviously, INDY although I'm begining to wonder about that this year, and the millions of Steel curtain fans who subscribe to their website.

Jason in LA · 10-22-2007, 03:34 AM

A team gets a much needed win and that's the best he can write about?

He implied that on the final drive the Broncos were helped by an offsides penalty on a third and one. Didn't Cutler get the first down on that play? If I'm remembering right they took the penalty because it gave them more yards, but they would of had the first down even without the penalty. So his point makes no sense.

Killericon · 10-22-2007, 03:35 AM

Pathetic stuff.

Jens1893 · 10-22-2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason in LA

A team gets a much needed win and that's the best he can write about?

He implied that on the final drive the Broncos were helped by an offsides penalty on a third and one. Didn't Cutler get the first down on that play? If I'm remembering right they took the penalty because it gave them more yards, but they would of had the first down even without the penalty. So his point makes no sense.

Correct, and as we´re b****ing about penalties ... what about the BLATANT false start of the left side of the Steelers´ OL on the drive that tied the game that wasn´t called?

broncocalijohn · 10-22-2007, 03:59 AM

I believe this guy wrote an article last year and basically did the same thing as a Broncos hater. Time to search this one or check his past articles because I remember this long , polish name and i believe it is this turd. Here is the beginning of the Wik profile on him. "Born in Salina, Kansas, he became a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine in January 1998, having worked as a football reporter for the network since 1992. He was named senior national sports columnist for ESPN in June 2005. He also has worked at the Los Angeles Times, Dallas Morning News, and Denver Post. Wojciechowski graduated from the University of Tennessee, and he began his career as a sports writer covering college football and college basketball." That should explain his biased view point.

Jetmeck · 10-22-2007, 05:01 AM

Somebody find this idiot's email address...please

Jens1893 · 10-22-2007, 05:03 AM

Gene Wojciechowski is the senior national columnist for ESPN.com. You can contact him at gene.wojciechowski@espn3.com. He co-authored Jerome Bettis' autobiography, "The Bus: My Life In and Out of a Helmet," which is available now.

10-22-2007, 02:54 AM	#1
maher_tyler Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 5,667 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Even in victory, Broncos' flaws are obvious Whats a complete douche bag...were not the Patriots but damn..we do have a lot of potential on both sides of the ball..thoughts... http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...8&sportCat=nfl

10-22-2007, 03:00 AM	#2
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,288 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	"False sense of bravado"? Wow...thats pretty funny stuff. What a douche. That was one of the more inspiring games you'll see in this football season. No one is saying we are complete badasses or even close to elite. But to piss on us and degrade us throughout the article with slights here and there after we pulled off a pretty amazing win and really showed what Bronco heart, grit and determination is all about is pretty **ing weak. It's not surprising though. It is ESPN after all. I'd kindly advise Gene Wojciechowski to go himself with an industrial grade sandpaper condom. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!**

10-22-2007, 03:16 AM	#12
wabbit Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Aurora Posts: 5,449	I can understand the outsider skepticism, frankly, after getting laid waste 41-3 at home 2 weeks ago, but you'd think that maybe...just maybe the Broncos would have earned a 'determined' label over 'lucky'. Last edited by wabbit; 10-22-2007 at 03:19 AM..

10-22-2007, 03:59 AM	#23
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,459 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	I believe this guy wrote an article last year and basically did the same thing as a Broncos hater. Time to search this one or check his past articles because I remember this long , polish name and i believe it is this turd. Here is the beginning of the Wik profile on him. "Born in Salina, Kansas, he became a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine in January 1998, having worked as a football reporter for the network since 1992. He was named senior national sports columnist for ESPN in June 2005. He also has worked at the Los Angeles Times, Dallas Morning News, and Denver Post. Wojciechowski graduated from the University of Tennessee, and he began his career as a sports writer covering college football and college basketball." That should explain his biased view point. Last edited by broncocalijohn; 10-22-2007 at 04:07 AM..

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10-22-2007, 03:03 AM	#3
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,170	So, Mr. Wojciechowski, what are our flaws? You sure did a nice job pointing them out in the article.

10-22-2007, 03:04 AM	#4
DB_champ24 Pro Bowler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Agoura, California Posts: 526 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	That guy must really not like the Broncos..What an idiot, he basically gave them no credit and obviously doesnt have any idea about this team

10-22-2007, 03:06 AM	#5
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	he Broncos insist that the last-second victory was no accident Hey ****-nut, we were never behind in the game. It shouldn't have even been close. A couple of bad plays and blown calls by the refs made it interesting. Good god, I usually don't buy the "they hate us" stuff as far as writers go, but this guy MUST be a Steelers fan. Even Boob came in and said "good game." This guy has issues.

10-22-2007, 03:09 AM	#7
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Is it a good thing when the best player on your team is the place-kicker? Now, does this ***-brain really believe that, or does he think it's "edgy" writing? Either way, it's laughable. The two home games are against the Packers and Tennessee. So good luck with that.* Yea, because the Titans and Packers are so much better than the Steelers. Did ESPN just pull this guy out of a sports bar or something?

10-22-2007, 03:13 AM	#9
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	We benefitted greatly tonight from scraping the Bates defense and going with Tampa cover 2, alternating with 8 in the box. Those different looks and the unusual amount of blitzing took awhile for the Steelers offense to adjust to.

10-22-2007, 03:14 AM	#10
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,567 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Laughable article by a D level writer. Try to hide that terrible towel in your office Gene.

10-22-2007, 03:21 AM	#13
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	This fool is not good enough to cover preseason, let alone a game that matters. Is it any wonder I no longer stop by espin?

10-22-2007, 03:23 AM	#16
ColoradoDarin Ring of Famer AFCW Champs! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5,521 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon's Shoe	What do I think? ESPN sucks and should be ignored at every opportunity (aka "ESPN ruins everything it touches"). Ways in which I have changed: 1. Don't get any sports info from ESPN.com. 2. Don't watch Sportscenter/NFL Live/"original" programming. 3. Avoid all ESPN/ABC related sports as much as possible - which is tough with NASCAR on ABC (their coverage sucks) and MNF (3 hours of PTI and my TV on mute).

10-22-2007, 03:24 AM	#17
TDmvp Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,049	we won with maybe the 2 best players on the team in streets and this guy writes this turd of a artical ..... you stay classy Wojokeski ... what a douche bag sandwich even ....

10-22-2007, 03:27 AM	#19
missingnumber7 Vote Joe Mays to Pro Bowl Joe 4 Pro Bowl ST's Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bismarck Posts: 4,760 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Once again...I wonder why anyone from this website ever reads anything from ESPN because it always causes a workup of emotions over their inability to actually cover a team and know anything about it. ESPN cares about 3 teams in the AFC, the PATs obviously, INDY although I'm begining to wonder about that this year, and the millions of Steel curtain fans who subscribe to their website.

10-22-2007, 03:34 AM	#20
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	A team gets a much needed win and that's the best he can write about? He implied that on the final drive the Broncos were helped by an offsides penalty on a third and one. Didn't Cutler get the first down on that play? If I'm remembering right they took the penalty because it gave them more yards, but they would of had the first down even without the penalty. So his point makes no sense.

10-22-2007, 03:35 AM	#21
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	Pathetic stuff.

10-22-2007, 05:01 AM	#24
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,379	Somebody find this idiot's email address...please

10-22-2007, 05:03 AM	#25
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,170	Gene Wojciechowski is the senior national columnist for ESPN.com. You can contact him at gene.wojciechowski@espn3.com. He co-authored Jerome Bettis' autobiography, "The Bus: My Life In and Out of a Helmet," which is available now.