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Old 10-04-2007, 09:58 PM   #1
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We are 10 yrs out from the superbowls, this team has crumbled talent wise to its current state, a 6 and 10 team, with brittle veterans and no depth at key positions. Shannahan has lost his touch, at least here in Denver, and the players no longer respond to his leadership.

Its simply time for him to go, although I am sure pat bowlen has a million excuses for him. Think about it, take off your homer glasses and look at whats actually going on at dove valley. His biggest problem is personnel. Do these names mean anything, Ashlie Lelie, George Foster, DJ Williams, Paul Tovesi, Darius Watts, Marcus Nash, Tatum Bell, the list goes on and on, over the last 10 yrs no team has drafted worse than we have, and it shows on our roster. (Especially on Defense), the last couple years have been better and is saving our Offense with marshall, cutler. Paying Gerrard Warren over Trevor Pryce was a huge mistake....

Ed Reed and Steven Jackson could have BOTH been on this roster now!

Free agent wise where do we start, for every good signing we get burned by several others. Dale Carter, Darryl Gardner, now Travis Henry Shannahan has sold his soul and taken unnecessary risks on veterans and overpaid mightily, Dre Bly is the next in line to fail. Trading Gerrard Warren was a mistake as well, after Warren had restructured his contract several times, now we have NO run D.

Coaching, ever since kubiak left his offensive playcalling has been atrocious, especially in the redzone, and his coaching staffs have done terrible. How many D coordinators are we going to go through? How many special teams coaches? Time and Time again he gets a free pass on these critical decisions.

Shannahan is still a great coach, but not here, not now, not in Denver anymore, its time for him to go and time for a new voice and a new coaching staff with fresh ideas and fresh motivation!
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:02 PM   #2
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I'll bet you $1,000 we have a better record than 6-10.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:05 PM   #4
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I'm not going to say **** about getting rid of Shanny (useless on here and Pat Bowlen loves the guy)

But this is all Shanny's mess... He has 100% control over the Broncos personel moves.
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oh and 2 years ago we were in the AFC championship..I know ths team is alot different than that team..relax the Broncos have alot of young up and coming talent..this isnt the year for superbowl..its a year for growth and development
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OK Wolf...who is your choice to replace him?
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:06 PM   #7
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Mike Martz is an ideal candidate with a powerful defensive coordinator, Martz and Cutler will do wonders for the offense and the Defense can be rebuilt to be decent. He is the best choice for our personnel, and one last caveat, a powerful STAND ALONE GENERAL MANAGER would help leaps and bounds.
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Mike Martz is an ideal candidate with a powerful defensive coordinator, Martz and Cutler will do wonders for the offense and the Defense can be rebuilt to be decent. He is the best choice for our personnel, and one last caveat, a powerful STAND ALONE GENERAL MANAGER would help leaps and bounds.
Yeah, lets bring in the guy who traded for George Foster.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:15 PM   #13
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Mike Martz is an ideal candidate with a powerful defensive coordinator, Martz and Cutler will do wonders for the offense and the Defense can be rebuilt to be decent. He is the best choice for our personnel, and one last caveat, a powerful STAND ALONE GENERAL MANAGER would help leaps and bounds.
Mike Martz sucked as a HC....his arrogance in keeping both Marshall Faulk and Kurt Warner in an out-of-reach playoff game (against GB if memory serves me correctly) directly resulted in the hand injury that Warner has yet to truly recover from. I think Faulk also was dinged up in that game and the Rams lost the next weekend.
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Martz sucked as a HC, but always gets kudos when talking about his work...not just as an OC, but working with young QBs.

As a HC he was as bad at game management as Herm.

As for Shanahan, he's still one of the best out there.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:16 PM   #16
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:16 PM   #17
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Coaching, ever since kubiak left his offensive playcalling has been atrocious, especially in the redzone,


the redzone woes were pretty atrocious when kubiak was here as well
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:20 PM   #18
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Martz sucked as a HC, but always gets kudos when talking about his work...not just as an OC, but working with young QBs.

As a HC he was as bad at game management as Herm.

As for Shanahan, he's still one of the best out there.
Yet he pretty much ruined Warner....
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:21 PM   #19
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Martz makes for a nice off. coach, but I wouldn't trust him with associating with the defensive coach and being on the same page if he were in charge of the team on the field. If you think Shanahan has a big ego just look at tapes of Martz when he was in charge of the Rams. The only guy I can even think of to replace Shanny is taken. Kubiak.. I had hopes that he would stick around and be the heir apparent but it wasn't meant to be.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:22 PM   #20
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Attn shoppers we have a fan going off the deep edge in isle 3 i repeat, we have a fan going off the deep edge in isle 3 (that is all)
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:22 PM   #21
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mark my words, one year from now the majority of you will have run out of patience with him and be at the same point i am now, no need to debate it, you all still believe this team is good, give it some time.......
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Shanny is still one of the best HC's out there. Problem is he's not so good in the old player personnel recruitment dept be it through the draft or FA, then again isn't that partially Ted Sundqvist's job Thing is if Bowlen attempted to take away any of Shanahan's current responsibilities I reckon he'd leave.
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There is a need to debate it you are freaking out. Just remember when the team makes another run you checked yourself off the Shanny bandwagon.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:25 PM   #24
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:27 PM   #25
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OH yeah, and Wolfy, it taint happening. We just reupped the Rat for an extention. Its gonna be til second decade of this century before we see a change at coach in Denver.

And just to nitpick... its S - H - A - N - A - H - A - N
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