NFL.com Power Rankings... Oakland #12, Denver not "in the hunt" - The Orange Mane

Ugly Duck · 10-02-2007, 09:52 PM

NFL.com NEWS

Raiders ranked #12 in the league

This is how the NFL's 32 teams stack up after Week 4:

IN THE HUNT
12. Oakland (2-2): Daunte Culpepper is writing a remarkable comeback story.

MIDDLE OF THE PACK
Denver Broncos (2-2)
Kansas City Chiefs (2-2)

NEED WORK
San Diego Chargers (1-3)

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

theAPAOps5 · 10-02-2007, 09:54 PM

That will change.

24champ · 10-02-2007, 09:56 PM

Yahoo has the faid at #17 and #24.

Broncos are at #11.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Vegas_Bronco · 10-02-2007, 10:00 PM

31st run stopping defense + 1st passing defense...I guess that equals out to 'middle of the pack'.

SoCalBronco · 10-02-2007, 10:04 PM

OH NOES!!!!!!!

We are playing poorly and that is being reflected in a big, bad "power ranking".

No way!!!!

55CrushEm · 10-02-2007, 10:11 PM

Yawn....as if the stupid power ranking mean anything.....here's CBS Sportline's....they have Denver at #13, and Oakland at #23.....chew on that.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings

Oh, and here's ESPN's.....Denver #10, Oakland #24.....chew on that, too.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerr...on=2007&week=5

Rock Chalk · 10-02-2007, 10:55 PM

18th according to footballoutsiders.com DVOA rankings. (Actually I think its DAVE) which to me is about an accurate assessment of the product on the field at this point in time.

ZONA · 10-02-2007, 11:05 PM

OMG is that the most gay thing ever. Oakland in the hunt. The very words scream sarcasm. As Troy Aikman would say............GET REAL. What ever person or panel of persons who came up with the idea to add the chokeland faders to that list needs to be fired.........right now.

Ugly Duck · 10-02-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZONA

What ever person or panel of persons who came up with the idea to add the chokeland faders to that list needs to be fired.........right now.

They're probably just looking ahead to the Raiders taking the AFCW lead during their bye week. LT gets healthy against the Bronco's horrid #31 run defense, Jags beat underdog KC, and Oakland leads the division. Now, is that testament to how much Oakland has improved, or to how much the other three AFCW teams suck? Bit of both maybe, eh?

DomCasual · 10-02-2007, 11:57 PM

Good thing there are still 12 games left.

fdf · 10-03-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

NFL.com NEWS

Raiders ranked #12 in the league

This is how the NFL's 32 teams stack up after Week 4:

IN THE HUNT
12. Oakland (2-2): Daunte Culpepper is writing a remarkable comeback story.

MIDDLE OF THE PACK
Denver Broncos (2-2)
Kansas City Chiefs (2-2)

NEED WORK
San Diego Chargers (1-3)

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

Raiders are way too high. Broncos are not.

azbroncfan · 10-03-2007, 01:15 AM

And when has any team ever won anything off of power rankings?

chickennob2 · 10-03-2007, 01:23 AM

You notice how "Middle of the Pack" encompassed all 2-2 teams but Oakland and "Needs Work" encompassed all 1-3 and 0-4 teams. Honestly, thats just lazy.

Natedog24 · 10-03-2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

They're probably just looking ahead to the Raiders taking the AFCW lead during their bye week. LT gets healthy against the Bronco's horrid #31 run defense, Jags beat underdog KC, and Oakland leads the division. Now, is that testament to how much Oakland has improved, or to how much the other three AFCW teams suck? Bit of both maybe, eh?

Considering Oakland has beaten Cleveland and Miami and has already lost to Denver I'd say it more has to do with the AFC West being easily the worse division in football. However, Oakland is definitely better then last year, which isn't saying a lot...

Hogan11 · 10-03-2007, 01:35 AM

People make way too much out of these power ranking things.

Popps · 10-03-2007, 05:11 AM

Daunte Culpepper is writing a remarkable comeback story.

Good, sweet, floating Christ.

The guy threw 12 passes all day and completed FIVE.

HE COMPLETED FIVE PASSES ALL DAY!

He ran a couple of balls into the endzone and completed five passes.

Can we hold of on the Greatest Comeback of All-Time crap for just a game or so?

jmz313 · 10-03-2007, 08:38 AM

Only rankings that matters in NFL is the standings.

Culpeper's started 1 game. amazing!!!

wabbit · 10-03-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

They're probably just looking ahead to the Raiders taking the AFCW lead during their bye week. LT gets healthy against the Bronco's horrid #31 run defense, Jags beat underdog KC, and Oakland leads the division. Now, is that testament to how much Oakland has improved, or to how much the other three AFCW teams suck? Bit of both maybe, eh?

We could do without the weak smack, but you have a point.

Denver will, to a good degree, get the rushing defense up to, well, top 20...hows that (..and I thought the run defense was 32...see, the improvement is on that way), but it may take several more games, so Tomlinson may, indeed, have his way.

The Chiefs actually think they have a chance, so they'll play above themselves for a time before crashing into the top ten draft selections.

San Diego is being Norvified, so, while the championship talent is obviously there, so is the coach that just won't let that happen if he has anything to say about it.

Oakland..well now, there's a team for ya.

More washed up QBs than a weekend flag football league, a head coach who still needs mommy to wipe, an offensive line that apparently has adopted the same policies that run our southern border and a RB/WR corp that defines mediocrity.

Oy, what a division. Whoever wins becomes the 2007 season speed bump for New England or Indy...your choice.

Good luck with that.

Rulon Velvet Jones · 10-03-2007, 09:32 AM

Wabbit still uses ICQ? Is that possible?

Beantown Bronco · 10-03-2007, 09:37 AM

Meaningless or not....it still amazes me every time I see a power ranking that, when facing the issue of ranking two teams with identical records, it completely ignores the "head to head" results and chooses to list the team that actually lost to the other team higher than the actual winner.

rbackfactory80 · 10-03-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Meaningless or not....it still amazes me every time I see a power ranking that, when facing the issue of ranking two teams with identical records, it completely ignores the "head to head" results and chooses to list the team that actually lost to the other team higher than the actual winner.

Thats because Oak basically had us beat on our own field. People always underestimate the value of home field in the NFL.

OrangeShadow · 10-03-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

OH NOES!!!!!!!

We are playing poorly and that is being reflected in a big, bad "power ranking".

No way!!!!

Beantown Bronco · 10-03-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

Thats because Oak basically had us beat on our own field. People always underestimate the value of home field in the NFL.

If we're going to rank teams that way, then the first few SBs for the Pats should be taken away, because 2/3 to 3/4 of their victories those two years were by 3 pts or less. Imagine if all the teams that lost by a field goal or less tried to say that they "basically beat" the other team....

ZachKC · 10-03-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by azbroncfan

And when has any team ever won anything off of power rankings?

You type this every time...as if someone actually thinks someone wins anything form it. It is a message board...it is sports discussion. Just tuck this stupid straw man away some place and keep it there.

rbackfactory80 · 10-03-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

If we're going to rank teams that way, then the first few SBs for the Pats should be taken away, because 2/3 to 3/4 of their victories those two years were by 3 pts or less. Imagine if all the teams that lost by a field goal or less tried to say that they "basically beat" the other team....

Thats why homefield is so important in the playoffs. They played good enough to get it and I believe snuck out with the lombardi. Titans would have beat them at home. Oakland?

10-02-2007, 10:04 PM	#5
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,297 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	OH NOES!!!!!!! We are playing poorly and that is being reflected in a big, bad "power ranking". No way!!!! __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

10-02-2007, 10:11 PM	#6
55CrushEm Dynamic Duo Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of Boston, MA Posts: 5,591 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quanterus Smith	Yawn....as if the stupid power ranking mean anything.....here's CBS Sportline's....they have Denver at #13, and Oakland at #23.....chew on that. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings Oh, and here's ESPN's.....Denver #10, Oakland #24.....chew on that, too. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerr...on=2007&week=5 Last edited by 55CrushEm; 10-02-2007 at 10:13 PM..

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10-02-2007, 09:52 PM	#1
Ugly Duck Proof: SD fans DO exist! RF Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,454	NFL.com Power Rankings... Oakland #12, Denver not "in the hunt" NFL.com NEWS Raiders ranked #12 in the league This is how the NFL's 32 teams stack up after Week 4: IN THE HUNT 12. Oakland (2-2): Daunte Culpepper is writing a remarkable comeback story. MIDDLE OF THE PACK Denver Broncos (2-2) Kansas City Chiefs (2-2) NEED WORK San Diego Chargers (1-3) http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

10-02-2007, 09:54 PM	#2
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	That will change.

10-02-2007, 09:56 PM	#3
24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,543 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	Yahoo has the faid at #17 and #24. Broncos are at #11. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

10-02-2007, 10:00 PM	#4
Vegas_Bronco Ring of Famer Fear is a lack of preparation. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 63 Yards Out Posts: 4,028 Adopt-a-Bronco: 1 Elam 1	31st run stopping defense + 1st passing defense...I guess that equals out to 'middle of the pack'.

10-02-2007, 10:55 PM	#7
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	18th according to footballoutsiders.com DVOA rankings. (Actually I think its DAVE) which to me is about an accurate assessment of the product on the field at this point in time.

10-02-2007, 11:05 PM	#8
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,372 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	OMG is that the most gay thing ever. Oakland in the hunt. The very words scream sarcasm. As Troy Aikman would say............GET REAL. What ever person or panel of persons who came up with the idea to add the chokeland faders to that list needs to be fired.........right now.

10-02-2007, 11:57 PM	#10
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Good thing there are still 12 games left.

10-03-2007, 01:15 AM	#12
azbroncfan Ring of Famer Angry guntoting,meateating AMERICAN Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 8,669 Adopt-a-Bronco: TEBOW	And when has any team ever won anything off of power rankings?

10-03-2007, 01:23 AM	#13
chickennob2 Memphian in Boston Glad to be back Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,059 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	You notice how "Middle of the Pack" encompassed all 2-2 teams but Oakland and "Needs Work" encompassed all 1-3 and 0-4 teams. Honestly, thats just lazy.

10-03-2007, 01:35 AM	#15
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	People make way too much out of these power ranking things.

10-03-2007, 05:11 AM	#16
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Daunte Culpepper is writing a remarkable comeback story. Good, sweet, floating Christ. The guy threw 12 passes all day and completed FIVE. HE COMPLETED FIVE PASSES ALL DAY! He ran a couple of balls into the endzone and completed five passes. Can we hold of on the Greatest Comeback of All-Time crap for just a game or so?

10-03-2007, 08:38 AM	#17
jmz313 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 982	Only rankings that matters in NFL is the standings. Culpeper's started 1 game. amazing!!!

10-03-2007, 09:32 AM	#19
Rulon Velvet Jones You're not really here. Tight Butthole Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rent-A-DC	Wabbit still uses ICQ? Is that possible?

10-03-2007, 09:37 AM	#20
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,040 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Meaningless or not....it still amazes me every time I see a power ranking that, when facing the issue of ranking two teams with identical records, it completely ignores the "head to head" results and chooses to list the team that actually lost to the other team higher than the actual winner.