VS Colts-- I vote Crowder at D-Tackle - The Orange Mane

Stormontheplains · 09-26-2007, 02:50 PM

I was pondering the colts no huddle and our dline. What happens if Sam Adams gets stuck on the field for an entire drive? Gorden and Burton seem to tire as well. I am placing my vote for Tim Crowder and Simeon Rice to one side, Elvis and McKinley to the other. Crowder would command a double team due to speed and quickness, and the ability to get off a block and make the tackle. McKinley is not a fat pos. Those 4 would pose the best pass rush with edge speed and the motor of crowder. What do you guys and gals think?

ward63 · 09-26-2007, 02:57 PM

So you want 4 DE's out there? Not a great idea...

Stormontheplains · 09-26-2007, 03:08 PM

No I want 3, mckiney is a tackle, and explains where it is better to have 1 tackle that gets blown off the ball all the time anyway, and one that cant move to make the tackle. Mind you, this is just for the colts.

Hotrod · 09-26-2007, 03:12 PM

I think we would set a new NFL record for rushing yards given up

BroncoBuff · 09-26-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

I think we would set a new NFL record for rushing yards given up

We might set that with our DTs anyway.

Stormontheplains · 09-26-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

I think we would set a new NFL record for rushing yards given up

All you are doing is replacing a waste of space 315 pounder for a very strong, athletic, high motor that weighs 275.

TheDave · 09-26-2007, 03:23 PM

Bad idea... VERY bad idea.

BroncoBuff · 09-26-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormontheplains

Gorden and Burton seem to tire as well.

Sadly, Burton didn't dress for the Bills or the Jags.

I dunno ... they were planning to move Ekuban inside on third downs, guys. Might not be such a bad idea for a few plays anyway ... might rattle Longneck a bit.

Stormontheplains · 09-26-2007, 03:55 PM

It makes the best pass rush we can muster with 4 guys. We have to pick our poison and I would rather get beat by the run then the pass.

Hotrod · 09-26-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormontheplains

It makes the best pass rush we can muster with 4 guys. We have to pick our poison and I would rather get beat by the run then the pass.

Not me I had enough of getting pushed around like school children last week. Id rather take my chances with Champ/Bly & company making enough plays to keep us in the game. Atleast the O will see the field more then 1/2 dozen times.

RunSilentRunDeep · 09-26-2007, 04:05 PM

I think it's a great idea for 3rd downs. I believe Crowder was already doing that in practice before he got hurt. It would be great to get some clarity on the 2 or 3 bozos that are supposedly the ones consistently screwing up their gap assignments.

Los Broncos · 09-26-2007, 06:14 PM

I can just see Adams being stuck out there

Move Eukban inside

yavoon · 09-26-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

Not me I had enough of getting pushed around like school children last week. Id rather take my chances with Champ/Bly & company making enough plays to keep us in the game. Atleast the O will see the field more then 1/2 dozen times.

when the pats were beating the colts edge was getting like 150 yards in the games.

Rock Chalk · 09-26-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

Not me I had enough of getting pushed around like school children last week. Id rather take my chances with Champ/Bly & company making enough plays to keep us in the game. Atleast the O will see the field more then 1/2 dozen times.

IM with you Hotrod. Id rather Forehead pick us apart again than get blown off the ball and look like the Kansas ****ty Chiefs run _efense.

Gcver2ver3 · 09-26-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDave

Bad idea... VERY bad idea.

all i know is what we're doing now doesn't work....

i'm open to giving just about anything a look...

u know what the definition of insanity is?...doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results....

we need to make a change somehow...somewhere....

so if not his idea....then what?

TheDave · 09-26-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gcver2ver3

all i know is what we're doing now doesn't work....

i'm open to giving just about anything a look...

u know what the definition of insanity is?...doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results....

we need to make a change somehow...somewhere....

so if not his idea....then what?

Stay with the game plan... According to everything i've read, watched, and listened to this is an issue of missed assignments and missed tackles. Bates entire system is based on 2 mamoths in the middle. You don't change that because DJ can't seem to fill the right hole and Ian has forgotten how to tackle.

Broncos_OTM · 09-26-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormontheplains

No I want 3, mckiney is a tackle, and explains where it is better to have 1 tackle that gets blown off the ball all the time anyway, and one that cant move to make the tackle. Mind you, this is just for the colts.

Actually Mckinley played 3-4 Defensive end in Cleveland. he up to this point in his career was a end while he moved to DT in denver

TheChamp24 · 09-26-2007, 11:59 PM

Just a question, but what the hell has Crowder done at all this season? Has he even played?

listopencil · 09-27-2007, 12:23 AM

How about we let Moss play MLB, move DJ back and ****can Gold?

epicSocialism4tw · 09-27-2007, 12:46 AM

Wasnt Crowder supposed to be able to play some time at DT?

sgbfan · 09-27-2007, 01:23 AM

I vote to just skip this game. If our D plays like last week, Addai is going to almost equal his entire output for last season. I don't see any solution other than the front seven getting their act together. I think I will break my TV if Peyten rushes for fifty yards. . . I don't see their Wayne or Harrison having very big days, because it will be too easy for Clark, Addai and Gonzales. I just hope I am wrong.

TheChamp24 · 09-27-2007, 02:10 AM

All I have to say is thank god I don't have to go to a sports bar this week. I'm thinking I would be getting pretty embarassed in there wearing Bronco gear and getting blown out.

sgbfan · 09-27-2007, 02:16 AM

While I am not optimistic, I remain hopeful, as always. Perhaps this will be a breakout game for Marcus Thomas. I think he is a better option than Crowder at DT.

Canmore · 09-27-2007, 02:49 AM

We are giving up 88 yards a game passing. I'm scared of there rushing attack beating the S*** out of us

. I'm a lot more frightened about getting cauht with adams on the field for an entire drive.

09-26-2007, 02:50 PM	#1
Stormontheplains Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bronco Nation Posts: 1,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Andre Hall	VS Colts-- I vote Crowder at D-Tackle I was pondering the colts no huddle and our dline. What happens if Sam Adams gets stuck on the field for an entire drive? Gorden and Burton seem to tire as well. I am placing my vote for Tim Crowder and Simeon Rice to one side, Elvis and McKinley to the other. Crowder would command a double team due to speed and quickness, and the ability to get off a block and make the tackle. McKinley is not a fat pos. Those 4 would pose the best pass rush with edge speed and the motor of crowder. What do you guys and gals think?

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09-26-2007, 02:57 PM	#2
ward63 The Burner Returner Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,161 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quincy Morgan	So you want 4 DE's out there? Not a great idea...

09-26-2007, 03:08 PM	#3
Stormontheplains Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bronco Nation Posts: 1,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Andre Hall	No I want 3, mckiney is a tackle, and explains where it is better to have 1 tackle that gets blown off the ball all the time anyway, and one that cant move to make the tackle. Mind you, this is just for the colts.

09-26-2007, 03:12 PM	#4
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I think we would set a new NFL record for rushing yards given up

09-26-2007, 03:23 PM	#7
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Bad idea... VERY bad idea.

09-26-2007, 03:55 PM	#9
Stormontheplains Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bronco Nation Posts: 1,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Andre Hall	It makes the best pass rush we can muster with 4 guys. We have to pick our poison and I would rather get beat by the run then the pass.

09-26-2007, 04:05 PM	#11
RunSilentRunDeep Ring of Famer I root for laundry Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,403 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	I think it's a great idea for 3rd downs. I believe Crowder was already doing that in practice before he got hurt. It would be great to get some clarity on the 2 or 3 bozos that are supposedly the ones consistently screwing up their gap assignments.

09-26-2007, 06:14 PM	#12
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	I can just see Adams being stuck out there Move Eukban inside

09-26-2007, 11:59 PM	#18
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,875	Just a question, but what the hell has Crowder done at all this season? Has he even played?

09-27-2007, 12:23 AM	#19
listopencil [sarcasm]text[/sarcasm] BOOM! Winner. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The People's Republic Of California Posts: 8,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Broncos FO	How about we let Moss play MLB, move DJ back and ****can Gold?

09-27-2007, 12:46 AM	#20
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Wasnt Crowder supposed to be able to play some time at DT?

09-27-2007, 01:23 AM	#21
sgbfan Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,002	I vote to just skip this game. If our D plays like last week, Addai is going to almost equal his entire output for last season. I don't see any solution other than the front seven getting their act together. I think I will break my TV if Peyten rushes for fifty yards. . . I don't see their Wayne or Harrison having very big days, because it will be too easy for Clark, Addai and Gonzales. I just hope I am wrong.

09-27-2007, 02:10 AM	#22
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,875	All I have to say is thank god I don't have to go to a sports bar this week. I'm thinking I would be getting pretty embarassed in there wearing Bronco gear and getting blown out.

09-27-2007, 02:16 AM	#23
sgbfan Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,002	While I am not optimistic, I remain hopeful, as always. Perhaps this will be a breakout game for Marcus Thomas. I think he is a better option than Crowder at DT.

09-27-2007, 02:49 AM	#24
Canmore The Force Do or Do Not. There is No Try. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 17	We are giving up 88 yards a game passing. I'm scared of there rushing attack beating the S*** out of us . I'm a lot more frightened about getting cauht with adams on the field for an entire drive.