Criticized more Mcnabb or Plummer - The Orange Mane

Punisher · 09-19-2007, 02:18 PM

Philly has fell into the same situation as denver last year.By taking a QB in the draft so when does kevin kolb come in...In who is Criticized more Mcnabb or Plummer.

Northman · 09-19-2007, 02:22 PM

Plummer has been far more criticized more than McNabb. But then again McNabb was/is a better QB than Jake was.

Orange_Beard · 09-19-2007, 02:34 PM

silly question. I did not ever hear Rashlimbaugh talking smack about jake.
Mcnabb is coming off an acl. I really think that these guys come back way too fast.

Rock Chalk · 09-19-2007, 02:36 PM

Rush Limbaugh actually didnt talk **** about McNabb. He was talking **** about the media's love fest with a QB that hasnt and likely will never do **** in the league.

bronco militia · 09-19-2007, 02:38 PM

Griese was criticized more than Jake

Bronco_Beerslug · 09-19-2007, 02:38 PM

McNabb by a huge margin. Far larger market, far more critics and............................................... ... he's black, isn't he, Rush?

Steve Prefontaine · 09-19-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

Rush Limbaugh actually didnt talk **** about McNabb. He was talking **** about the media's love fest with a QB that hasnt and likely will never do **** in the league.

I'm not sure what your definition is, but I'd say this is taking some ****, especially since he specifically is naming McNabb.

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"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL.
The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.
There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit
for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve."

As far as McNabb never doing anything in the league, I think you are a little harsh. Since being drafted, McNabb has made the Eagles a perennial contender despite the fact that outside of Westbrook and 1 year with T.O., he has had almost no offensive weapons to work with.

Bronco_Beerslug · 09-19-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ECBronco

I'm not sure what your definition is, but I'd say this is taking some ****, especially since he specifically is naming McNabb.
As far as McNabb never doing anything in the league, I think you are a little harsh. Since being drafted, McNabb has made the Eagles a perennial contender despite the fact that outside of Westbrook and 1 year with T.O., he has had almost no offensive weapons to work with.

Yeah, I never heard Rush talking down Plummer but Alec never heard Rush talking down McNabb so there's a pretty good snapshot on how people perceive things.

broncosteven · 09-19-2007, 03:14 PM

I think if you slack off or are percieved to slack off at the end of a SB where you could have won it that that would hurt your stock some.

Kaylore · 09-19-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

Griese was criticized more than Jake

Rightfully so. Plummer had more success than Griese did. What's the saying? "Winning games hides a lot of stink"

JCMElway · 09-19-2007, 03:34 PM

Definetly Plummer. Without a doubt.

WolfpackGuy · 09-19-2007, 03:35 PM

McNabb takes way more heat than Plummer ever did. Hell, just blame everything on Pat Burrell.

Garcia Bronco · 09-19-2007, 03:39 PM

The Denver media is no different than the Philly media, and our fans are more demanding than philly fans any day of the week. As far as who took more heat...I have no clue.

bronco militia · 09-19-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

The Denver media is no different than the Philly media, and our fans are more demanding than philly fans any day of the week. As far as who took more heat...I have no clue.

yeah..and we only like white players too

Smiling Assassin27 · 09-19-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy

McNabb takes way more heat than Plummer ever did. Hell, just blame everything on Pat Burrell.

not sure what the Phillies' left fielder has to do with it...did you mean Tillman?

Check out Jason Fatlock's column on Fox sports. I think he does a pretty decent job sizing up Mc Nabb's situation.

WolfpackGuy · 09-19-2007, 03:50 PM

Pat Burrell is blamed for everything from bad weather to kidnappings in Philly. Sorry, kind of a local thing.

skpac1001 · 09-19-2007, 04:00 PM

You know what is kind of funny is that he chose Manning and Palmer out as the qb's who get less criticism then him. Aside from Brady, what qb in the NFL doesn't get more criticism then Manning and Palmer? Shouldnt he be compairing himself to a white qb who is playing at about the same performance level as he is right now?

For fun I looked up qb stats by qb rating, and Losman is one below McNabb, and Harrington is 4 higher. I wonder what they think about how they are babied by the media and fans compared to him.
#2 on the list hears cheers from his own fans when he is injured even though he is white! Can't they see his skin tone from up in the stands?

Punisher · 09-19-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by skpac1001

You know what is kind of funny is that he chose Manning and Palmer out as the qb's who get less criticism then him. Aside from Brady, what qb in the NFL doesn't get more criticism then Manning and Palmer? Shouldnt he be compairing himself to a white qb who is playing at about the same performance level as he is right now?

For fun I looked up qb stats by qb rating, and Losman is one below McNabb, and Harrington is 4 higher. I wonder what they think about how they are babied by the media and fans compared to him.
#2 on the list hears cheers from his own fans when he is injured even though he is white! Can't they see his skin tone from up in the stands?

i guess he puts himself up there with palmer and manning

Smiling Assassin27 · 09-19-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy

Pat Burrell is blamed for everything from bad weather to kidnappings in Philly. Sorry, kind of a local thing.

ah, an east coast Brian Griese!

ØrangeÇrush · 09-19-2007, 04:23 PM

Unfairly Criticized more? McNabb

Criticized more? Plummer

skpac1001 · 09-19-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

i guess he puts himself up there with palmer and manning

I guess he does. He may have deserved to in the past. But not right now. I wonder how annoying a 9 year starting qb's b****ing is to the black qb's who actually have had to deal with not being considered for a starting job or can't even get a tryout at qb before being asked to switch positions. Kind of like a billionaire complaining about taxes.

NYBronco · 09-19-2007, 05:17 PM

Plummer who?

Bronx33 · 09-19-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anubis

Plummer has been far more criticized more than McNabb. But then again McNabb was/is a better QB than Jake was.

That's because jake was white...

broncosteven · 09-19-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBronco

Plummer who?

He is the guy who finished 2nd place with his brother in the Greater Idaho Mens Handball tourney last spring.

TomServo · 09-19-2007, 05:48 PM

any qb black, white, or green deserves any and all criticism if, when the superbowls on the line and they cant stop puking and get their fat butt up the field to run a simple two minute offense......deserves critcism.

09-19-2007, 02:18 PM	#1
Punisher ® You Tell The NFL! We're coming for That Belt! WOOOOO® Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Broncos Video Vault Posts: 6,628 Adopt-a-Bronco: i4jelway7	Criticized more Mcnabb or Plummer Philly has fell into the same situation as denver last year.By taking a QB in the draft so when does kevin kolb come in...In who is Criticized more Mcnabb or Plummer.

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skpac1001 Ring of Famer I brings the ruckus Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Temecula, Ca Posts: 1,129 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	You know what is kind of funny is that he chose Manning and Palmer out as the qb's who get less criticism then him. Aside from Brady, what qb in the NFL doesn't get more criticism then Manning and Palmer? Shouldnt he be compairing himself to a white qb who is playing at about the same performance level as he is right now? For fun I looked up qb stats by qb rating, and Losman is one below McNabb, and Harrington is 4 higher. I wonder what they think about how they are babied by the media and fans compared to him. #2 on the list hears cheers from his own fans when he is injured even though he is white! Can't they see his skin tone from up in the stands? Last edited by skpac1001; 09-19-2007 at 04:10 PM..

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09-19-2007, 02:22 PM	#2
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	Plummer has been far more criticized more than McNabb. But then again McNabb was/is a better QB than Jake was.

09-19-2007, 02:34 PM	#3
Orange_Beard Over Jay Cutler Todd Snider Rules! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leucadia, CA Posts: 7,836 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tony Scheffler	silly question. I did not ever hear Rashlimbaugh talking smack about jake. Mcnabb is coming off an acl. I really think that these guys come back way too fast.

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Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Rush Limbaugh actually didnt talk ** about McNabb. He was talking about the media's love fest with a QB that hasnt and likely will never do ** in the league.

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bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,568	Griese was criticized more than Jake

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Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	McNabb by a huge margin. Far larger market, far more critics and............................................... ... he's black, isn't he, Rush?

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broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,014 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	I think if you slack off or are percieved to slack off at the end of a SB where you could have won it that that would hurt your stock some.

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JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,866 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Definetly Plummer. Without a doubt.

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WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,674	McNabb takes way more heat than Plummer ever did. Hell, just blame everything on Pat Burrell.

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Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	The Denver media is no different than the Philly media, and our fans are more demanding than philly fans any day of the week. As far as who took more heat...I have no clue.

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WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,674	Pat Burrell is blamed for everything from bad weather to kidnappings in Philly. Sorry, kind of a local thing.

09-19-2007, 04:23 PM	#20
ØrangeÇrush Aaaayh!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,371	Unfairly Criticized more? McNabb Criticized more? Plummer

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NYBronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,994	Plummer who?

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TomServo Ring of Famer Dancing is Forbidden! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,013	any qb black, white, or green deserves any and all criticism if, when the superbowls on the line and they cant stop puking and get their fat butt up the field to run a simple two minute offense......deserves critcism.