Donovan McNabb pulls the race card

[TheReverend]

Report: McNabb says black QBs under more pressure
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Updated: September 18, 2007, 9:30 AM ET
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African-American quarterbacks face more pressure and more criticism than their white counterparts, Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb says in an interview scheduled to air on HBO on Tuesday night.



McNabb
McNabb, in an interview on "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel," tells interviewer James Brown that African-American quarterbacks such as himself face added pressure because there are fewer black QBs -- and because some still don't want black athletes playing the position.

"There's not that many African-American quarterbacks, so we have to do a little bit extra," McNabb tells HBO. "Because the percentage of us playing this position, which people didn't want us to play ... is low, so we do a little extra."




Later in the interview, Brown presses McNabb on criticism of his performance -- and if African-American QBs are graded more harshly.



"I pass for 300 yards, our team wins by seven, [mimicking] 'Ah, he could've made this throw, they would have scored if he did this,' " McNabb tells HBO.


"Doesn't every quarterback go through that?" Brown asks.



"Not everybody," McNabb replies.

Brown then asks if the media is tougher on him than on white quarterbacks such as Carson Palmer and Peyton Manning.



"Let me start by saying I love those guys," McNabb tells HBO. "But they don't get criticized as much as we do. They don't."



In the interview, McNabb also talks to Brown about playing in Philadelphia, a city known for passionate sports fans who aren't afraid to criticize the city's pro athletes.

"Every year I'm part of some criticism," McNabb tells HBO. "But every day that we go through life, you're faced with a lot of adversity. Now the answer is how do you handle the adversity. How do you respond?



"I try to handle myself with class. I try to handle myself with dignity. I think sometimes people look to players to act out, speak loudly, pretty much be an idiot. But that's not me."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3025308

[ludo21]

wow

[Bronco_Beerslug]

He's absolutely correct, black QBs are definitely more scrutinized than white QBs. But he's a whiner too.

[redrage]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

African-American quarterbacks face more pressure and more criticism than their white counterparts, Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb says in an interview scheduled to air on HBO on Tuesday night.



McNabb
McNabb, in an interview on "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel," tells interviewer James Brown that African-American quarterbacks such as himself face added pressure because there are fewer black QBs -- and because some still don't want black athletes playing the position.

"There's not that many African-American quarterbacks, so we have to do a little bit extra," McNabb tells HBO. "Because the percentage of us playing this position, which people didn't want us to play ... is low, so we do a little extra."




Later in the interview, Brown presses McNabb on criticism of his performance -- and if African-American QBs are graded more harshly.



"I pass for 300 yards, our team wins by seven, [mimicking] 'Ah, he could've made this throw, they would have scored if he did this,' " McNabb tells HBO.


"Doesn't every quarterback go through that?" Brown asks.



"Not everybody," McNabb replies.

Brown then asks if the media is tougher on him than on white quarterbacks such as Carson Palmer and Peyton Manning.



"Let me start by saying I love those guys," McNabb tells HBO. "But they don't get criticized as much as we do. They don't."



In the interview, McNabb also talks to Brown about playing in Philadelphia, a city known for passionate sports fans who aren't afraid to criticize the city's pro athletes.

"Every year I'm part of some criticism," McNabb tells HBO. "But every day that we go through life, you're faced with a lot of adversity. Now the answer is how do you handle the adversity. How do you respond?



"I try to handle myself with class. I try to handle myself with dignity. I think sometimes people look to players to act out, speak loudly, pretty much be an idiot. But that's not me."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3025308

I wonder why, Donovan. I wonder why.

[fontaine]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

"Every year I'm part of some criticism," McNabb tells HBO. "But every day that we go through life, you're faced with a lot of adversity. Now the answer is how do you handle the adversity. How do you respond?

Must be real tough having to face that adversity cashing in a yearly salary that has at least 7 zeroes in it.

"I try to handle myself with class. I try to handle myself with dignity. I think sometimes people look to players to act out, speak loudly, pretty much be an idiot. But that's not me."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3025308

Too late for that Donovan.

[TheReverend]

Couple points that piss me off about this article:

1. Peyton Manning and Carson Palmer comparison? They don't get the criticism because they're better than you. Peyton had TONS of criticism despite shattering records until he won his ring. Carson is still in his honeymoon phase with Cinci because they're so ****ing happy to have a quarterback that can throw!

2. Does it seem like this is more feeling the heat of Kolb? They brought in a WHITE quarterback? OMFG! Get over it, your days were over when they picked him and if you don't like the pressure, call Jake Plummer and you two can b**** about it over ice cream while you do each other's hair and watch the Notebook.

3. You're judged on performance and championships, NOT color. Elway was white and he was crucified until he won two trophies and became infallible.

4. If you're going to b****, b**** about your cheap ass franchise not spending money on a couple players that can catch the ball. b**** at your weak stomach and mind for dry heaving and choking away your chance at the SB. b**** at yourself because in the end, that's all there is to blame.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

He's absolutely correct, black QBs are definitely more scrutinized than white QBs. But he's a whiner too.

You're an idiot. Name some examples.

Daunte Culpepper? Favorite MVP pick annually until exposed as a fraud in life after Randy.

Donovan? See above but switch Randy Moss with perennial injuries.

Mike Vick? The most electrifying QB that can't throw a football!

Aaron Brooks? Hahahaha.

[fontaine]

Man, you can see how badly the whole TO thing has ****ed him up.

Especially now that TO is down in hated rivals dallas without a harsh word to say about his QB.

[55CrushEm]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Couple points that piss me off about this article:

1. Peyton Manning and Carson Palmer comparison? They don't get the criticism because they're better than you. Peyton had TONS of criticism despite shattering records until he won his ring. Carson is still in his honeymoon phase with Cinci because they're so ****ing happy to have a quarterback that can throw!

2. Does it seem like this is more feeling the heat of Kolb? They brought in a WHITE quarterback? OMFG! Get over it, your days were over when they picked him and if you don't like the pressure, call Jake Plummer and you two can b**** about it over ice cream while you do each other's hair and watch the Notebook.

3. You're judged on performance and championships, NOT color. Elway was white and he was crucified until he won two trophies and became infallible.

4. If you're going to b****, b**** about your cheap ass franchise not spending money on a couple players that can catch the ball. b**** at your weak stomach and mind for dry heaving and choking away your chance at the SB. b**** at yourself because in the end, that's all there is to blame.

QFT

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

You're an idiot. Name some examples.
Daunte Culpepper? Favorite MVP pick annually until exposed as a fraud in life after Randy.
Donovan? See above but switch Randy Moss with perennial injuries.
Mike Vick? The most electrifying QB that can't throw a football!
Aaron Brooks? Hahahaha.

Off on a black QB rant today are you?

[Garcia Bronco]

If Rush couldn't talk about it why should he? What a sad little man McNabb has become. He dogged it in the Super Bowl and alienated his wide receiver that played in the same on a broken ankle. He also hasn't finished a season in two years. I'll say this...he's got a lotta nerve.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Off on a black QB rant today are you?

No. You are. I'm off on a rant that he's criticized for shoddy performance, and losses like EVERY quarterback.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

No. You are. I'm off on a rant that he's criticized for shoddy performance, and losses like EVERY quarterback.

Right, that's why you just posted a list of black QBs and how horrible you think they are.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

He's absolutely correct, black QBs are definitely more scrutinized than white QBs. But he's a whiner too.

Palmer's a good example but Peyton is flat out a better qb than McNabb every day of the week and twice on sundays. Peyton and Brady get less criticism because they're in a different stratosphere than every other qb.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Right, that's why you just posted a list of black QBs and how horrible you think they are.

You said McNabb was right.

I disagreed and listed my supporting evidence.

You have none so instead you also play the race card. Way to pull a Donovan! You put the douche in "douchebag"

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

You said McNabb was right.
I disagreed and listed my supporting evidence.
You have none so instead you also play the race card. Way to pull a Donovan! You put the douche in "douchebag"

Are you visually impaired too? He's absolutely right about many Americans views on black NFL QBs, especially in the South. Also, like I said, he's a whiner.

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

Palmer's a good example but Peyton is flat out a better qb than McNabb every day of the week and twice on sundays. Peyton and Brady get less criticism because they're in a different stratosphere than every other qb.

Exactly!

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Are you visually impaired too? He's absolutely right about many Americans views on black NFL QBs, especially in the South. Also, like I said, he's a whiner.
Exactly!

Quit trolling and hijacking threads and post some examples then. Show me instances where black quarterbacks have been criticized when their white counterpart would NOT be.

[NaptownChief]

What garbage....McNabb was given one of the biggest media passes in history when he literally $hit himself in the Super Bowl and couldn't even run a hurry up 2 minute offense with the game on the line. If Manning would have done that and lost the game he would have absolutely been mulled and crucified by the media.


Hey McNabb, why don't you spend as much time on getting in shape and working on throwing accuracy as you do whining and you might be a good QB.

BTW Palmer came back in less time from a more serious knee injury and we didn't hear him whining about only being "75%".

Go get in a good cry over some Chunky Soup with Big Mamma.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Quit trolling and hijacking threads and post some examples then. Show me instances where black quarterbacks have been criticized when their white counterpart would NOT be.

I'm pretty sure most of the news makes even it to Camp Pendleton but since you think black QBs suck in the NFL and even made a list of black QBs with 4 Championship games between them to point out how bad they are, it's obvious you have your mind made up about black and white QBs.

[skpac1001]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

He's absolutely correct, black QBs are definitely more scrutinized than white QBs. But he's a whiner too.

Where do you see this? I see things being pretty damn equal nowadays, if not a slight prejudice for black qb's because the stereotype is that they are all athletic playmakers who can make things happen when nobody is open. I see Manning catching more crap then McNabb for not being able to win a Superbowl (previously). I see Vick being untouchable no matter what he does (on the field, and until recently off also). I just dont see any examples of black qb's getting unusual and undeserved criticism that white qb's do not.
McNabb is in Philly (who are hard on athletes of all colors), with a brand new rookie qb behind him, and he is playing like crap, if he wants to think people are getting antsy because he is black thats fine, but I am not gonna buy it.

[bronco militia]

Rush was right!

[Willynowei]

Bull****. There are racists out there, but the media pressure and criticism has got nothing to do with his skin color.

A load of bull****.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by skpac1001

Where do you see this? I see things being pretty damn equal nowadays, if not a slight prejudice for black qb's because the stereotype is that they are all athletic playmakers who can make things happen when nobody is open. I see Manning catching more crap then McNabb for not being able to win a Superbowl (previously). I see Vick being untouchable no matter what he does (on the field, and until recently off also). I just dont see any examples of black qb's getting unusual and undeserved criticism that white qb's do not.

Mostly through the South but all other parts of the country too. Racial hatred is alive and well in this country even if it's toned down more these days. McNabb whining about it doesn't work though considering his own performances and injuries the last few years. Mostly, he's railing against the Philly media.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I'm pretty sure most of the news makes even it to Camp Pendleton but since you think black QBs suck in the NFL and even made a list of black QBs with 4 Championship games between them to point out how bad they are, it's obvious you have your mind made up about black and white QBs.

Every single post mystifies me as to how you can even figure out how to walk. Do you keep notes on your pocket that say "left foot, right foot, repeat" or is that even too complicated?

MY MIND IS MADE UP ON QUARTERBACK CRITICISM AND SCRUTINY NOT BLACK VS WHITE YOU BLATANT RETARD.

For the 10100101010101th time, post some examples to validate your retarded claim!

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Mostly through the South but all other parts of the country too. Racial hatred is alive and well in this country even if it's toned down more these days.

He is crying about the media being harder on black QB's....that is a completely different topic than the opinion of some rednecks in the south...completely different topics.

If he wanted to cry and say that there are a lot of people in the South that don't like black QB's then I might listen but to say the media is tougher on black QB's is a joke...It isn't even close to true and if their is any bias at all it is to cut them slack like he got cut for crapping himself in the Super Bowl.