Those filthy Patriot cheaters! - The Orange Mane

DomCasual · 09-10-2007, 03:03 PM

Thread title was tongue in cheek - sort of.

Seriously, what do you think about this? If true, it seems pretty shady.

Sources: Camera confiscated after claims of Pats spying on Jets

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989

NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.

The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation, the sources said.

"We don't have any comment," an NFL spokesman said Monday.

The Patriots' cameraman was suspected of aiming his camera at the Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field, the sources said. The league also is investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game.

The league's competition committee could conduct a conference call about the incident, which violates NFL policy, and ultimately recommend a penalty that could cost the Patriots a future draft pick or picks if it verifies that the team was spying on the Jets.

"It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said.

In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.

"From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it."

A Jets official declined comment Monday, directing an inquiry to the league office. The Patriots also did not have immediate comment.

Kaylore · 09-10-2007, 03:07 PM

Wow. Now that whole incident with that employee getting thrown out makes more sense. They'll still probably go to the Super Bowl, though.

OrangeDoofus · 09-10-2007, 03:07 PM

I'm actually surprised we don't hear about this kind of thing more often.

55CrushEm · 09-10-2007, 03:08 PM

Great....first Harrison, now one more reason to hate the Patriots.

TailgateNut · 09-10-2007, 03:08 PM

Can't wait to hear the outcome of this investigation? Somebody may have some explaining to do if it turns out to be sponsored by the Patsies!

boltaneer · 09-10-2007, 03:10 PM

Gee, what a surprise.

Beej · 09-10-2007, 03:11 PM

Suspend the whole team!

sixtimeseight · 09-10-2007, 03:14 PM

Not surprised. Most classless organization in pro sports.

PatsWin2002 · 09-10-2007, 03:21 PM

It's probably BS, but who knows.

The Jets had NOTHING yesterday....I think they're fishing.

PatsWin2002 · 09-10-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixtimeseight

Not surprised. Most classless organization in pro sports.

Total crap.

Funny how every one is trying to model themselves after the Pats and they top damn near every list about model franchises.

DomCasual · 09-10-2007, 03:29 PM

I'm not quite ready to jump on the bandwagon, simply because this kind of stuff is what the Broncos were always getting accused of during their Super Bowl run. Some of this just comes with success, in my opinion. Other organizations get jealous (ahem, Al Davis), and they start looking for things to whine about.

That said, it seems sort of lame - at best. If they indeed were doing it, then I would be interested to know if any other teams are doing it, as well.

Mountain Bronco · 09-10-2007, 03:30 PM

Why would you assume it is BS? I bet the pats loose a mid round pick over this.

Rohirrim · 09-10-2007, 03:31 PM

Many here don't realize it, but PatsWin is a spy.

TailgateNut · 09-10-2007, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

Total crap.

Funny how every one is trying to model themselves after the Pats and they top damn near every list about model franchises.

Filming the defensive coaches calling plays isn't something I would consider ethical. If this character is in any way associated with the franchise, somebody needs to be hung out to dry.
The comment regarding the radio frequency issue is something which has happened to the Broncos while visiting the Deadskins. It is something which tends to bother me a bit more than hand signals, but still......it's cheating if intentional!

Smiling Assassin27 · 09-10-2007, 03:32 PM

if you recall, the Pats were also accused of trying to gain a competitive advantage agains the Fins last year. Bellichick's a sly one and will do whatever's required to win.

Northman · 09-10-2007, 03:32 PM

Its probably crap. I remember the year the Giants were playing the Vikings in the NFC game and there were " supposed " reports of the Giants listening in on the Vikings headphones. As Dom said, crap like this always gets started because people WANT to find something wrong with a successful team or franchise.

BroncoBuff · 09-10-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

It's probably BS, but who knows.

The Jets had NOTHING yesterday....I think they're fishing.

That's the first thing I thought ... that Mangini was looking for grist to resurrect the feud ... Chris Mortenson just said (12:40 Pacific) that other teams have done this or at least been accused.

DirecTV users: Are you getting Shanahan's press conference blacked out right now? They've changed the rules since last year ... I've been getting them live for several seasons in a row.

Crowpointer · 09-10-2007, 03:37 PM

Sounds like Mangina was a little upset about getting waxed at home and is looking for a reason.

bronco militia · 09-10-2007, 03:38 PM

lol...... EARTH SHATTERING NEWS!

who cares.

teams have been stealing signs in baseball and football since forever.

there's a reason coaches cover their mouths before sending in plays

Master___Pain · 09-10-2007, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Many here don't realize it, but PatsWin is a spy.

I think that'd qualify him as a pretty crappy spy

BroncosMT · 09-10-2007, 04:03 PM

Steve Young stated that if it's true that they should lose a frist round draft pick! Wow...I'm surprised this hasn't been brought to the forefront before....Interesting though!

Pezman · 09-10-2007, 04:24 PM

I blame Patswin... funny how you didnt post for several hours this weekend bro. Fess up sucker!

55CrushEm · 09-10-2007, 04:31 PM

I just wonder....because it's the Perfect Pats were talking about here, and not the Faders.....will the league take this investigation seriously....or just sort of blow it off, or sweep it under the rug.....

After all, they wouldn't want the image of their model franchise tarnished in any way....

Chris · 09-10-2007, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

if you recall, the Pats were also accused of trying to gain a competitive advantage agains the Fins last year. Bellichick's a sly one and will do whatever's required to win.

and Green Bay.

PRBronco · 09-10-2007, 05:10 PM

Funny that this just came up regarding the Pats, I was just reading the electronic ass wipe that is Peter King's Monday morning article, and there was something in there about the Pats signing two of the Jets training camp cuts and speculation about getting secrets from them, etc. How iiiiiiiinteresting....

09-10-2007, 03:03 PM	#1
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Those filthy Patriot cheaters! Thread title was tongue in cheek - sort of. Seriously, what do you think about this? If true, it seems pretty shady. Sources: Camera confiscated after claims of Pats spying on Jets http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989 NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said. The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation, the sources said. "We don't have any comment," an NFL spokesman said Monday. The Patriots' cameraman was suspected of aiming his camera at the Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field, the sources said. The league also is investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game. The league's competition committee could conduct a conference call about the incident, which violates NFL policy, and ultimately recommend a penalty that could cost the Patriots a future draft pick or picks if it verifies that the team was spying on the Jets. "It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said. In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins. "From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it." A Jets official declined comment Monday, directing an inquiry to the league office. The Patriots also did not have immediate comment.

09-10-2007, 04:24 PM	#22
Pezman Livin the dream Andy did you hear about this one? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Smoggy SoCal Posts: 9,833 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	I blame Patswin... funny how you didnt post for several hours this weekend bro. Fess up sucker! __________________ Sitting on a beach, earning 20%

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09-10-2007, 03:07 PM	#2
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,012 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Wow. Now that whole incident with that employee getting thrown out makes more sense. They'll still probably go to the Super Bowl, though.

09-10-2007, 03:07 PM	#3
OrangeDoofus Ring of Famer (nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 2,318	I'm actually surprised we don't hear about this kind of thing more often.

09-10-2007, 03:08 PM	#4
55CrushEm Wolverine or Superman? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of Boston, MA Posts: 5,590 Adopt-a-Bronco: "Squid"Quan	Great....first Harrison, now one more reason to hate the Patriots.

09-10-2007, 03:08 PM	#5
TailgateNut Bleedin' orange! .......as much as tebonites Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mile High Posts: 20,018 Adopt-a-Bronco: Howard Griffith	Can't wait to hear the outcome of this investigation? Somebody may have some explaining to do if it turns out to be sponsored by the Patsies!

09-10-2007, 03:10 PM	#6
boltaneer 17 ATTA BABY! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: America's Finest City Posts: 4,066	Gee, what a surprise.

09-10-2007, 03:11 PM	#7
Beej Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 417	Suspend the whole team!

09-10-2007, 03:14 PM	#8
sixtimeseight Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,872	Not surprised. Most classless organization in pro sports.

09-10-2007, 03:21 PM	#9
PatsWin2002 Giggity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South of Boston Posts: 6,270	It's probably BS, but who knows. The Jets had NOTHING yesterday....I think they're fishing.

09-10-2007, 03:29 PM	#11
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	I'm not quite ready to jump on the bandwagon, simply because this kind of stuff is what the Broncos were always getting accused of during their Super Bowl run. Some of this just comes with success, in my opinion. Other organizations get jealous (ahem, Al Davis), and they start looking for things to whine about. That said, it seems sort of lame - at best. If they indeed were doing it, then I would be interested to know if any other teams are doing it, as well.

09-10-2007, 03:30 PM	#12
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 1,446	Why would you assume it is BS? I bet the pats loose a mid round pick over this.

09-10-2007, 03:31 PM	#13
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,801	Many here don't realize it, but PatsWin is a spy.

09-10-2007, 03:32 PM	#15
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,957 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	if you recall, the Pats were also accused of trying to gain a competitive advantage agains the Fins last year. Bellichick's a sly one and will do whatever's required to win.

09-10-2007, 03:32 PM	#16
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	Its probably crap. I remember the year the Giants were playing the Vikings in the NFC game and there were " supposed " reports of the Giants listening in on the Vikings headphones. As Dom said, crap like this always gets started because people WANT to find something wrong with a successful team or franchise.

09-10-2007, 03:37 PM	#18
Crowpointer Patriots Fan Bill Belichick-Hingham's finest Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boston's South Shore Posts: 897 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Brady	Sounds like Mangina was a little upset about getting waxed at home and is looking for a reason.

09-10-2007, 03:38 PM	#19
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,568	lol...... EARTH SHATTERING NEWS! who cares. teams have been stealing signs in baseball and football since forever. there's a reason coaches cover their mouths before sending in plays

09-10-2007, 04:03 PM	#21
BroncosMT Back in Big Sky Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Frozen tundra of Montana Posts: 869	Steve Young stated that if it's true that they should lose a frist round draft pick! Wow...I'm surprised this hasn't been brought to the forefront before....Interesting though!

09-10-2007, 04:31 PM	#23
55CrushEm Wolverine or Superman? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of Boston, MA Posts: 5,590 Adopt-a-Bronco: "Squid"Quan	I just wonder....because it's the Perfect Pats were talking about here, and not the Faders.....will the league take this investigation seriously....or just sort of blow it off, or sweep it under the rug..... After all, they wouldn't want the image of their model franchise tarnished in any way....

09-10-2007, 05:10 PM	#25
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	Funny that this just came up regarding the Pats, I was just reading the electronic ass wipe that is Peter King's Monday morning article, and there was something in there about the Pats signing two of the Jets training camp cuts and speculation about getting secrets from them, etc. How iiiiiiiinteresting....