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Old 09-05-2007, 03:00 PM   #1
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WASHINGTON -- In a surprise twist, Sen. Larry E. Craig (R-Idaho) has left open, albeit slightly,
the possibility that he will not resign from the Senate if he succeeds in his fight to clear his name of allegations that he solicited sex
in a Minnesota airport restroom in June.

"Sen. Craig still intends to resign," his spokesman, Dan Whiting, said in an interview Tuesday night.
"That being said, Sen. Craig wants it clear he's fighting these charges, both in Minneapolis and in the Senate Ethics Committee,
and if the wheels of justice are able to turn quick enough, meaning before Sept. 30, he may -- and I emphasize may -- not resign.

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Old 09-05-2007, 03:15 PM   #2
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Would like the guy to go away now...
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:04 PM   #3
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If he's not guilty, he shouldn't resign. I'll admit that his interview did sound a bit fishy, but it's not proof that he was soliciting anything.
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If he's not guilty, he shouldn't resign. I'll admit that his interview did sound a bit fishy, but it's not proof that he was soliciting anything.
Why did he plead guilty? If some vice cop accused me of such a thing in a rest room, I'd tell him to b l o w me. So to speak...

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If he's not guilty, he shouldn't resign. I'll admit that his interview did sound a bit fishy, but it's not proof that he was soliciting anything.
IF he wasn't guilty while in the "head" at the minny airport, he should not have plead guilty to a lesser charge. Not guilty is what it is. Tell the cops to stuff it, charge me and lets get the ball rolling. I would find it very suspicious if ANY senator or congressman, pleads guilty to a lesser charge, when faced with a more serious charge He or She KNOWS they are not guilty of. If he wasn't guilty to begin with, he should have stood his ground (with a wide stance) when confronted by the minny cops.......big mistake on his part, he needs to resign..dman

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Why did he plead guilty? If some vice cop accused me of such a thing in a rest room, I'd tell him to b l o w me. So to speak...
Yep...dman
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IF he wasn't guilty while in the "head" at the minny airport, he should not have plead guilty to a lesser charge. Not guilty is what it is. Tell the cops to stuff it, charge me and lets get the ball rolling. I would find it very suspicious if ANY senator or congressman, pleads guilty to a lesser charge, when faced with a more serious charge He or She KNOWS they are not guilty of. If he wasn't guilty to begin with, he should have stood his ground (with a wide stance) when confronted by the minny cops.......big mistake on his part, he needs to resign..dman

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Kinda hard to fight a guilty plea in court. On the other hand, plead not guilty and it's up to the courts to prove otherwise.

IMO, he's guilty as hell and tried to sweep it under the rug!
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IF he wasn't guilty while in the "head" at the minny airport, he should not have plead guilty to a lesser charge. Not guilty is what it is. Tell the cops to stuff it, charge me and lets get the ball rolling. I would find it very suspicious if ANY senator or congressman, pleads guilty to a lesser charge, when faced with a more serious charge He or She KNOWS they are not guilty of. If he wasn't guilty to begin with, he should have stood his ground (with a wide stance) when confronted by the minny cops.......big mistake on his part, he needs to resign..dman

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Not to mention his history with this sort of thing.
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:32 PM   #9
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Why did he plead guilty? If some vice cop accused me of such a thing in a rest room, I'd tell him to b l o w me. So to speak...
You're also not in the public eye (as far as I know). The way he explained it, he didn't want the publicity and hoped this would just go away by pleading guilty to a lesser charge and paying a minimal fine. You can choose to believe him or not believe him, but it's plausible that's what happened...
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You're also not in the public eye (as far as I know). The way he explained it, he didn't want the publicity and hoped this would just go away by pleading guilty to a lesser charge and paying a minimal fine. You can choose to believe him or not believe him, but it's plausible that's what happened...
So Craig isn't aware that guilty pleas become a matter of public record?
And Craig isn't aware that there are people who spend their whole days
looking for dirt on public figures such as actors, athletes, and politicians.
This means Craig is either a lier and a pervert, or a complete idiot.
Either way do we want someone like that in the Senate making laws
the rest of us have to live by?
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So Craig isn't aware that guilty pleas become a matter of public record?
And Craig isn't aware that there are people who spend their whole days
looking for dirt on public figures such as actors, athletes, and politicians.
This means Craig is either a lier and a pervert, or a complete idiot.
Either way do we want someone like that in the Senate making laws
the rest of us have to live by?
He said he didn't have legal representation and he was embarrassed by the whole situation. He might not have thought it through very well, given the circumstances.
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He said he didn't have legal representation and he was embarrassed by the whole situation. He might not have thought it through very well, given the circumstances.
He isn't even aware of his own Constitutional rights, because the Constitution,
in a straightforward and unambiguous manner, states in Article 1, Section 6 that:
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a compensation for their services, to be ascertained by law, and paid out of the treasury of the United States. They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place.
Note: Craig was charged with a misdemeanor, not a felony.

Since the senator was on his way to Washington, and did in fact cast a
vote on the evening of the day on which he was arrested, his arrest and
subsequent questioning were, technically speaking, unconstitutional.

If the senator had flashed the Constitution at the cop as soon as the cop
flashed his badge at him, the officer would have had no choice but to release
the senator to go on his way. Now it's true Craig did show the cop a card
that said Craig was a Senator and told the cop "What do you think of that?"
But apparently neither Craig nor the cop realized the card should have
actually given Craig a free pass.

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You're also not in the public eye (as far as I know). The way he explained it, he didn't want the publicity and hoped this would just go away by pleading guilty to a lesser charge and paying a minimal fine. You can choose to believe him or not believe him, but it's plausible that's what happened...
It's not plausible at all. I can't imagine any INNOCENT American male, let alone a U.S. Senator, ever agreeing to plead guilty to these kinds of charges - unless they're true.
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ha! ha!...what a nitwit. He left a revealing cell phone message on the wrong cell phone...

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More problems for Idaho Senator, Larry Craig - first he pleads guilty after being charged with a lewd act that he now says he didn't commit. Now, he's left a revealing message on voice mail that was intended for his attorney. Turns out the Senator was less than careful when he was dialing. As INSIDE EDITION reports, he dialed the wrong number.
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He's taking a wide stance on this issue.
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If he's not guilty, he shouldn't resign. I'll admit that his interview did sound a bit fishy, but it's not proof that he was soliciting anything.
Craig was outed at least last year and earlier according to some Gay and blog sites.
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:45 AM   #19
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Craig Reversal: GOP Shock Turns to Anger

Senate GOP leaders, stunned that Sen. Larry Craig is considering reversing his decision to quit September 30 over his guilty plea in a men's room sex scandal, say that he should still step down.

"After today's Senate Republican policy lunch ... you should see the Senate Republican leadership repeat that this is a done deal and that we expect a new senator from Idaho very soon. The White House is not going to change its tune either," said a senior GOP leadership aide whose White House reference suggests a coordinated message.

Said another top GOP Senate aide: "This could very well be the story that never was. Senator Craig has given himself a September 30 deadline to clear an ethics committee that likely hasn't started its investigation, reverse an adjudicated crime, and assemble a jury and retry the matter—to the extent that it is even an option. It's hard to imagine any, let alone all, of those items can be done in that time frame."

Still others in the Senate are getting angry, especially with Craig's decision to fight the case but not return to Washington yet to explain himself to his colleagues.

"If he has the [courage] to fight this, then the least he could do is come here and feel the heat we're feeling," said a third top Senate aide. That aide predicted today's message to Craig will stare him down. "I think that, in the end, he will still be gone."

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I hope he hangs in there, embarassing the GOP until the election.
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Craig has filed legal papers in Minneapolis district court challenging his guilty plea. GO LARRY!

News from Washington is that Mitch McConnell blew a vein in his forehead.

Look for Faux Noise to start the attacks tonight.
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Craig has filed legal papers in Minneapolis district court challenging his guilty plea. GO LARRY!

News from Washington is that Mitch McConnell blew a vein in his forehead.

Look for Faux Noise to start the attacks tonight.


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Looks like Craig is using Stall tactics ...................Ok that was bad .....
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