Ron Paul: plans are being laid for martial law

[Arkie]

Congressman: Stock Market Will Eventually Collapse
Ron Paul says martial law provisions in place to deal with economic discord

Texas Congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul says that attempts to rescue an ailing stock market last week, during which the Fed pumped in billions in liquidity, were merely a stop gap measure - and that an economic collapse is all but inevitable.



"They think that they can control it but eventually they can't, as powerful as they are eventually the markets are more powerful," the Congressman told the Alex Jones Show yesterday.

"The dollar can't be kept in check because eventually it will come unwound," he added.


"But I think the most significant figure we've heard in the last few weeks is the measurement between 2000 - 2005, the clear cut admission that real income has gone down, which is a reflection of the dollar."

Paul explained that recent attempts to pump liquidity into the markets are only a temporary fix and that the long-term effects of doing so spell disaster for the economy.

"The dollar is plunging no matter what you read and hear about and no matter how hard they work to keep the bubble going the only way they can do that is creating more money....causing the dollar to go down even faster, the market seems to be reassured - there's a contrivance to try to hold this together....but it won't last, eventually it's going to collapse," said Paul.

The Texas Congressman cited the repeal of the Insurrection Act as opening the door to a declaration of national emergency and martial law which could be instituted for any number of reasons, including civil disobedience in the event of an economic downturn and a run on the banks.

"If in 6 months or a year there is total chaos who knows what they might try to do," said Paul.

The presidential candidate also slammed the abolition of Habeas Corpus as a "very dangerous sign" that plans were being laid for martial law.

"Why would they change them (the laws) if they didn't plan to use them," concluded Paul.

Suspicions were raised last week when a mystery trader risked billions of dollars after buying 245,000 put options on the Dow Jones Eurostoxx 50 index, in effect a speculation that the market would crash by a third before September 21st.

[Spider]

Looks like he lost my vote ..............Damn shame to

[Spider]

oops nevermind , I misread the post ....... I am still on the bandwagon , but ready to jump at a moments notice

[Bronco Bob]

Ron Paul is popular with the internet geeks, but as far as the conservatives
go, Mike Huckabee is starting to catch on. He's basically the conservative that
they are looking for, and after his second place showing in the Iowa straw
poll Huckabee is starting to get more money and press attention.
He's the real conservative a lot of people think Fred Thompson is,
and Huckabee could just steal the GOP nomination from Thompson
and Giuliani once conservatives find out more about Huckabee.
Ron Paul seems too radical for the average conservative.

[mosca]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

oops nevermind , I misread the post ....... I am still on the bandwagon , but ready to jump at a moments notice

Lotta confidence in Ron Paul there, Spider. Based on your statements, you don't seem to be "on the bandwagon" at all.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Wow - I wonder how Paul's statements here are going to sit with those supporters of his who would scream "conspiracy theory" if these warnings came from just about any other source?

This should be interesting to watch.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Wow - I wonder how Paul's statements here are going to sit with those supporters of his who would scream "conspiracy theory" if these warnings came from just about any other source?

This should be interesting to watch.

Anyone you had in mind?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by mosca

Lotta confidence in Ron Paul there, Spider. Based on your statements, you don't seem to be "on the bandwagon" at all.

Imagine that .........I really dont trust a politician ........ I wonder if I can join the same 12 step program you used to learn to trust politicians ?

[Rohirrim]

If there's going to be bread lines, I suggest moving your investments into entertainment stocks. They're about the only ones who did alright through The Depression. Even when people are starving, they want to be entertained.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Ron Paul just dug his own grave, ball game over.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Ron Paul just dug his own grave, ball game over.

Not so fast BB, lots of people have the same sense of dread. I for one think he is close to right, because so many think it could not happen is precisely what makes the unthinkable possible.

[baja]

I'm buying gold.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by baja fan

Not so fast BB, lots of people have the same sense of dread. I for one think he is close to right, because so many think it could not happen is precisely what makes the unthinkable possible.

Thinking it and saying are two different things. He's unelectable for sure after that little doom and gloom narrative.

[Rohirrim]

In my darker moments, I believe this is what's in store for us. Throughout mankind's history there have been times of massive social upheaval. We haven't had one of those in a long time. Our entire economy is built on air. What do we manufacture? Where are our factories? What are we making and selling? Paper and bytes. Add to it all the massive stupidity of the current government and the corruption, the billions wasted in Iraq, the debt, the intentional Walmartian erosion of quality and the fact that our currency has the weight of feathers, the erosion of real wages and value while the rich at the top marvel at how large their gas filled bubble of wealth is expanding.

People always worry about the flammability of liquids, but it's the fumes you've got to look out for. That which you can't see is what causes the explosion. While we're spending all our time tending the flammability of our markets, we are ignoring the fumes.

[Hotrod]

I think hes on the right track. Problem is I dont think he can do a damn thing about it.

[Rohirrim]

Now I know we're in deep ****. Bush is right now giving a speech saying the American economy is strong and getting stronger and it's "...strong enough to weather any turbulence." He's saying this disruption in the mortgage industry is "modest." He's not bailing out "the speculators." Last time Bush sounded this certain about something was when he was talking about WMDs in Iraq.

Time to sell the house and move into an RV.

[Rohirrim]

Here's the funny part. Bush took no questions. Obviously, the speech was entirely coached and Bush understood none of it. He sure as hell wasn't going to answer questions. Then we'd just get more of that video for Letterman's "Great Moments in Presidential Speeches" with Bush going, "hhhhhh..." I know if I was in the press corps, the most fun I would have would be to come up with really complex questions to ask Bush. I'll bet the press corps has contests among themselves, you know, like "Befuddle the Dork."

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Ron Paul is popular with the internet geeks, but as far as the conservatives
go, Mike Huckabee is starting to catch on.

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin394.htm

[Garcia Bronco]

this takes Paul out of the running. While his ideals may be in the right place, he's obviously not able to see the whole picture.

[Spider]

I got a investing tip for everyone ....... Shotguns and canned goods ...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

...he's obviously not able to see the whole picture.

Oh?

What part(s) of his assessment do you think is wrong, and why?

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Taco John

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin394.htm

I might vote for him just for this:

Regarding the war in Iraq and other foreign policy issues, Paul is a traditional conservative of the order of George Washington and Robert Taft. Not ignorant of military matters (he is an Air Force veteran), Paul subscribes to a historical American approach of no entanglements with foreign nations. In fact, in the area of foreign policy, Ron Paul stands alone as a traditional, constitutional, American statesman.

I am sick of being the world's policeman.

[Rohirrim]

When will the true conservatives (regardless of party) realize that Bush and the neocons are not conservatives? They are radicals whose politics border on fascism.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob
Ron Paul is popular with the internet geeks, but as far as the conservatives
go, Mike Huckabee is starting to catch on.

Originally Posted by Taco John

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin394.htm

Yes, but look at this poll from Iowa. Mike Huckabee went from being off
the map to 10%, passing up McCain. And projecting Huckabee's rate of climb,
he is poised to pass Thompson and Giuliani in Iowa. A strong second for
Huckabee in Iowa or even an upset defeat of Romney and who knows what
happens next.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...aucus-207.html

And in the other two early primary states, New Hampshire:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...imary-193.html

and South Carolina:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...imary-233.html

Huckabee is also starting to climb in the polls. I see no such movement for Ron Paul.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Oh?

What part(s) of his assessment do you think is wrong, and why?

Two areas: One the economy is not going to collapse, but it is going to correct itself because just about everything is over valued, and two the Congress of the United States needs to be able to declare martial law when it's proper to do so. Also, the Congress does not need more or less laws to declare martial law. It's already in the US Constitution in section 8. Also, Habeas Corpus cannot be suspend unless the Constitution is amended by amendment, or the conditions are satisfied as stated in the Constitution. Anything else will not pass constitutionality.
You can find that in section 9 aka The Limits of Congressional Powers.

So all that crap Paul said about Habeas Corpus and Martial Law is already on the books and has been for over 200 years Constitutionalist my arse. It sounds like he's barely read it.