Will Michael Vick Ever Play NFL Football Again?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Thinking about this, how could any team ever sign this guy after what he has pleaded guilty to?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Early results on ESPN...

[NaptownChief]

Ron Mexico is a far more tarnished Roy Tarpley without the production.

[ND Bronco Fan]

You have a simple yes/no............I hope/wish he never plays again, but do I think he will, yeah......some where some day.

[RkyMtnThunder]

Isnt he also facing up to 5 years for each dog killed in VA? ....8 dogs..up to 40 years on top of the federal time.

Lets say the VA judge goes easy on him and gives him 6mos for each count...thats still 2 more years on top of the 9-12 months expected from the federal Indictment.

And the NFL is probably going to put a 1yr ban on him effective when he is released from prison.

Now looking at potential 4-5 years away from the NFL at minimum. I seriously doubt a comeback would be possible.


* note this opinion/comment was actually from local sports radio guys I listened to at lunch today, I just happen to agree with them

[NaptownChief]

And it isn't like we are talking about somebody gambling on a Walter Payton/Jim Brown/John Elway type of talent...We are talking about a guy who wasn't anything more than a very average NFL QB at best that happened to be a media hype machine. Teams might be willing to take the PR hammer for greatness but they aren't going to take it for a loser with one career playoff win.

[NYBronco]

What a waste. The guy had the good life and all he had to do was teach his dogs to fetch, lay down and roll over. Unbelievable...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by RkyMtnThunder

Isnt he also facing up to 5 years for each dog killed in VA? ....8 dogs..up to 40 years on top of the federal time.
Lets say the VA judge goes easy on him and gives him 6mos for each count...thats still 2 more years on top of the 9-12 months expected from the federal Indictment.
And the NFL is probably going to put a 1yr ban on him effective when he is released from prison.
Now looking at potential 4-5 years away from the NFL at minimum. I seriously doubt a comeback would be possible.
* note this opinion/comment was actually from local sports radio guys I listened to at lunch today, I just happen to agree with them

I think almost all other sentences are made concurrent when there is a federal sentence and sometimes state and or local charges are dropped.

[Northman]

I dont think so but sometimes the NFL is desperate. But with that said even if he does there will be a lot of protesting wherever he ends up. His reputation is done and i highly doubt he can repair it.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I think almost all other sentences are made concurrent when there is a federal sentence and sometimes state and or local charges are dropped.

Yes, once they take over the investigation the charges are being pressed by feds and local level prosecution stops. I think he can still be charged in a civil court, though I don't know who would.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Anubis

I dont think so but sometimes the NFL is desperate. But with that said even if he does there will be a lot of protesting wherever he ends up. His reputation is done and i highly doubt he can repair it.

That's what I'm thinking. Can you imagine all the negative press and attention that any team will be surrounded with that signed him in the future?

[Northman]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

That's what I'm thinking. Can you imagine all the negative press and attention that any team will be surrounded with that signed him in the future?

It would be a nightmare but if Weird Al Yankdavis is still alive when he gets out he may sign him.

[RkyMtnThunder]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I think almost all other sentences are made concurrent when there is a federal sentence and sometimes state and or local charges are dropped.

Thanks for clarifying...

someone needs to call 'Mark and Ash' at 620 KTAR in Phx and give em the scoop.



Well, this NFL career is over - but maybe he can come back for a pro wrestling gig, tag team w/ PacMan

[elsid13]

I going to say yes, but not as QB. Mostly likely he will end up in AFL or CFL for a couple years and come back and attempt to play WR/RB

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I think almost all other sentences are made concurrent when there is a federal sentence and sometimes state and or local charges are dropped.

No, well not always.

States can and will prosecute separate from federal prosecution and in most cases do not run concurrent to federal sentencing since the state receives no money from such a deal. If Virginia wants to prosecute for the separate characters of animal cruelty, they may do so and when Vick is released from federal prison (assuming he is found guilty in the state's case) he will then be transferred to a much worse state run prison. Generally speaking though, the only time concurrent sentences are handed out is the other way. If the state prosecutes first and the feds get him second. At least this is my understanding of state vs federal crimes.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Alec

No, well not always.

States can and will prosecute separate from federal prosecution and in most cases do not run concurrent to federal sentencing since the state receives no money from such a deal. If Virginia wants to prosecute for the separate characters of animal cruelty, they may do so and when Vick is released from federal prison (assuming he is found guilty in the state's case) he will then be transferred to a much worse state run prison. Generally speaking though, the only time concurrent sentences are handed out is the other way. If the state prosecutes first and the feds get him second. At least this is my understanding of state vs federal crimes.

Well, I'm not sure about how it usually works but in this case you have a state prosecutor who didn't seem very interested in going after him to begin with so we'll see I guess.

[Turf Shaman]

The comparison to Leonard Little has been made often when talking about Vick. It's worth discussing. The difference is, Vick was involved in a organized criminal ring, while Little made a irresponsible decision which had heavy consequences. Still, in Little's case the end result was the loss of a human life, while in Vick's case it was dogs. Not to make light of what Vick did and how terrible dog fighting is, but Little is still in the league and no one ever talks about him. You can't really argue that Little made an isolated mistake because he was arrested later for drunk driving again. And he's done nothing publicly to show he's remorseful or has changed his ways. If he can stay in the league, I suppose Vick should be able to. But I think they should both be out for good if things were right.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I see him doing 2 years then have to serve a one year NFL suspension then some desperate team will pick him up.

[BroncoBuff]

I'll betcha he's cleared to play in 2009. Whether any team signs him or not is another story.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Is anyone watching this on ESPN? 2002 interview, name 3 things people don't know about Michael Vick.

#2) "I love animals"

[Northman]

Originally Posted by Turf Shaman

The comparison to Leonard Little has been made often when talking about Vick. It's worth discussing. The difference is, Vick was involved in a organized criminal ring, while Little made a irresponsible decision which had heavy consequences. Still, in Little's case the end result was the loss of a human life, while in Vick's case it was dogs. Not to make light of what Vick did and how terrible dog fighting is, but Little is still in the league and no one ever talks about him. You can't really argue that Little made an isolated mistake because he was arrested later for drunk driving again. And he's done nothing publicly to show he's remorseful or has changed his ways. If he can stay in the league, I suppose Vick should be able to. But I think they should both be out for good if things were right.

Although i agree with your point the difference is " being drunk " or " under the influence " for some reason is looked at differently than premeditated murder. I dont know why but it just is. Either way, Little's and Ray Ray's transgressions were done before this new policy was put into place and enforced. And that is something that people seem to be forgetting. Anything in the past is just that. The Past. Since the new commissoner has come in the rules have become stiffer.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Is anyone watching this on ESPN? 2002 interview, name 3 things people don't know about Michael Vick.

#2) "I love animals"

Yea, i saw that. I tried not to laugh out loud.

[Jason in LA]

Probably not. The only team that could possibly take him without having a PR nightmare is the Falcons, because a lot of their fan base would welcome him back. But Arthur Blank seems like he's done with Vick.

[Jason in LA]

Originally Posted by Turf Shaman

The comparison to Leonard Little has been made often when talking about Vick. It's worth discussing. The difference is, Vick was involved in a organized criminal ring, while Little made a irresponsible decision which had heavy consequences. Still, in Little's case the end result was the loss of a human life, while in Vick's case it was dogs. Not to make light of what Vick did and how terrible dog fighting is, but Little is still in the league and no one ever talks about him. You can't really argue that Little made an isolated mistake because he was arrested later for drunk driving again. And he's done nothing publicly to show he's remorseful or has changed his ways. If he can stay in the league, I suppose Vick should be able to. But I think they should both be out for good if things were right.

Little shouldn't be playing in the NFL.

[Jason in LA]

Originally Posted by RkyMtnThunder

Isnt he also facing up to 5 years for each dog killed in VA? ....8 dogs..up to 40 years on top of the federal time.

Lets say the VA judge goes easy on him and gives him 6mos for each count...thats still 2 more years on top of the 9-12 months expected from the federal Indictment.

And the NFL is probably going to put a 1yr ban on him effective when he is released from prison.

Now looking at potential 4-5 years away from the NFL at minimum. I seriously doubt a comeback would be possible.


* note this opinion/comment was actually from local sports radio guys I listened to at lunch today, I just happen to agree with them

From my understanding they could have, and possibly would have hit him with those type of counts if he hadn't taken the plea agreement.