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Old 08-18-2007, 09:45 PM   #1
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Default Hyperinflation, then war, just around the corner?

That's what Webster Tarpley thinks.

Tired of the television pundits who keep telling you everything is OK? When common sense tell us that you can't pump $38 billion (by some estimates -- much more) into Wall Street in a single day -- without grave conseqences.

Did you know that the cash the Fed created out of thin air went to bail out the hedge fund moguls and financial carnivores who manage the debt pyramid created by Wall Street over the last 7 years -- ever since Alan Greenspan lowered interest rates? It sure as sh*t didn't go to help out working people.

OK. Here is the writing on the wall --- as read by a realist, Webster Tarpley. Be Aware. This will not resemble anything you've seen on CNN or POX -- but it has the merit of being close to the truth, IMO.

(If you want to know what Tarpley thinks about 9/11 -- check out his book Synthetic Terrorism.)

Spider -- be sure to take a look at this. After all, you have a finger on the pulse of the real world of honest production -- as in tons of freight hauled, real goods versus funny money and derivative pyramid schemes to the horizon. Tarpley's comparison with pre Nazi Germany -- and his distinction between financial collapse versus disintegration -- rings true to me.

Read this at your own risk:

http://www.rense.com/general77/ben.htm
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:30 PM   #2
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Wasn't an "imminent" invasion of Iran "just around the corner" too?
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Here we go with the fearmongering doomsterism again...

gaffney probably is too afraid to go see the 4th remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" - it's just too real for him.

How many times now has he predicted that doom is nigh?
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Here we go with the fearmongering doomsterism again...

gaffney probably is too afraid to go see the 4th remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" - it's just too real for him.

How many times now has he predicted that doom is nigh?
I wonder what ghaffney's investment portfolio looks like? ammo, canned foods, and a smelter?
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:31 PM   #6
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Here we go with the fearmongering doomsterism again...

gaffney probably is too afraid to go see the 4th remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" - it's just too real for him.

How many times now has he predicted that doom is nigh?
The clown's reaction is ridicule.

What people need is the correct analysis -- and that is what I've been trying to provide. It's a scarce commodity.

With the correct analysis people can make smart decisions and better protect themselves in the coming days -- which are going to be the most perilous in human history.

Do you deny this is true?

Obviously the sleep walkers amongst us prefer to snooze on.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:38 PM   #7
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That's what Webster Tarpley thinks.

Tired of the television pundits who keep telling you everything is OK? When common sense tell us that you can't pump $38 billion (by some estimates -- much more) into Wall Street in a single day -- without grave conseqences.

Did you know that the cash the Fed created out of thin air went to bail out the hedge fund moguls and financial carnivores who manage the debt pyramid created by Wall Street over the last 7 years -- ever since Alan Greenspan lowered interest rates? It sure as sh*t didn't go to help out working people.

OK. Here is the writing on the wall --- as read by a realist, Webster Tarpley. Be Aware. This will not resemble anything you've seen on CNN or POX -- but it has the merit of being close to the truth, IMO.

(If you want to know what Tarpley thinks about 9/11 -- check out his book Synthetic Terrorism.)

Spider -- be sure to take a look at this. After all, you have a finger on the pulse of the real world of honest production -- as in tons of freight hauled, real goods versus funny money and derivative pyramid schemes to the horizon. Tarpley's comparison with pre Nazi Germany -- and his distinction between financial collapse versus disintegration -- rings true to me.

Read this at your own risk:

http://www.rense.com/general77/ben.htm
I do think that there are many pressures right now pushing us toward inflation -- and yes, infusing the encomy with money out of thin air is one factor. High oil prices doesnt help, and large debt loads for our nation, and its citizens in a huge problem as well...Not sure about the Germany comparison -- that was hyper inflation partially caused by the West piling on after WW I demanding it pay for things they could not afford unless they starting printing money like crazy. But even if the US got into the 10% anual inflation rate that will be a VERY hard think for old folks, and the working joe.
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Here we go with the fearmongering doomsterism again...

gaffney probably is too afraid to go see the 4th remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" - it's just too real for him.

How many times now has he predicted that doom is nigh?
He's not the only one. That movie, "Invasion", completely bombed at the box office.

Which just goes to show you can't improve on an original.
The first one was downright scary.
The rest were downright boring.
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Wasn't this idiot the same guy who wrote an article about Chenney attacking inside the US with WMD's this summer?

My guess is that since the time is running out on that one he needs to start another fear mongering campaign.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:52 PM   #10
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So Gaff when are we all going to die this time? I remember reading some BS from you awhile back that I was supposed to be dead by now. I'm still alive and life is good!
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The clown's reaction is ridicule.
Hey, you set yourself up, every time.

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What people need is the correct analysis -- and that is what I've been trying to provide. It's a scarce commodity.
I can think of something else scarce in your views...

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With the correct analysis people can make smart decisions and better protect themselves in the coming days -- which are going to be the most perilous in human history.
Doomsterism and fearmongering ("most perilous in human history"?) are your stock-in-trade; "correct analysis" is mere rationalization for your tin-foil-hattery and whackitude.

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Do you deny this is true?
I do deny it - unless, of course, more people accept your mindset, self-fulfilling prophecy and all that...

I think it will be more perilous when the comrades of the aliens who died in Roswell come to get the bodies. You did see "Independence Day", didn't you?

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Obviously the sleep walkers amongst us prefer to snooze on.
Pity "Invasion" is such a lousy movie - but like I said, it would be just too real for you to handle... Perhaps the original, but that would also scare the bejeesus out of ya...
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I wonder what ghaffney's investment portfolio looks like? ammo, canned foods, and a smelter?
Is this such a bad idea?
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:20 PM   #13
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That's what Webster Tarpley thinks.

Tired of the television pundits who keep telling you everything is OK? When common sense tell us that you can't pump $38 billion (by some estimates -- much more) into Wall Street in a single day -- without grave conseqences.

Did you know that the cash the Fed created out of thin air went to bail out the hedge fund moguls and financial carnivores who manage the debt pyramid created by Wall Street over the last 7 years -- ever since Alan Greenspan lowered interest rates? It sure as sh*t didn't go to help out working people.

OK. Here is the writing on the wall --- as read by a realist, Webster Tarpley. Be Aware. This will not resemble anything you've seen on CNN or POX -- but it has the merit of being close to the truth, IMO.

(If you want to know what Tarpley thinks about 9/11 -- check out his book Synthetic Terrorism.)

Spider -- be sure to take a look at this. After all, you have a finger on the pulse of the real world of honest production -- as in tons of freight hauled, real goods versus funny money and derivative pyramid schemes to the horizon. Tarpley's comparison with pre Nazi Germany -- and his distinction between financial collapse versus disintegration -- rings true to me.

Read this at your own risk:

http://www.rense.com/general77/ben.htm
Webster Griffin Tarpley is an author, lecturer, former U.S. Senate candidate, and critic of US foreign and domestic policy. He maintains that the events of 9/11 were engineered by the military industrial complex. He envisions a model of false flag terror operated by a rogue network of independent operatives in the privatized military intelligence sector and corporate media.


Do all you nutjobs sit around in a home and circle jerk together? Im sure you could be good friends with boob
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He maintains that the events of 9/11 were engineered by the military industrial complex.


Gee, then I guess that automatically disconfirms anything he might have to say on the economy (or any other topic.)

In fact, if any man who believes the government had something to do with 9/11 tells you '2+2=4,' don't believe him - he's just trying to bullsh*t you.
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Gee, then I guess that automatically disconfirms anything he might have to say on the economy (or any other topic.)
Given what gaffney has said about several other topics... Most anything he says is bull****.

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In fact, if any man who believes the government had something to do with 9/11 tells you '2+2=4,' don't believe him - he's just trying to bullsh*t you.
With gaffney, I'd doublecheck.

BTW, why aren't you covering Chavez' back and spinning for him any more? Are you just another disillusioned lefty who fell, starry-eyed, for yet another dictator who seduced you with all the right propaganda?
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Gee, then I guess that automatically disconfirms anything he might have to say on the economy (or any other topic.)

In fact, if any man who believes the government had something to do with 9/11 tells you '2+2=4,' don't believe him - he's just trying to bullsh*t you.
I don’t agree with you on much, but your point should be well taken -- if one has hard leanings to the left or right -- if one then automatically decides that "they" have nothing truthful to say, it might be part of the problem we have in the US right now. His past statements on the governments always taking the side of the enemy seems predictable, and I think reflects more about him, than reality, but ... as for me, I DO think that inflation is a real threat -- I doubt very much it will be hyper-inflation, but we don’t need hyper inflation to wreak havoc....

The fact is the Chinese government holds Billions of US dollars and that has artificially inflated the dollar's value -- it is done, as many know here, to keep their imports keep -- at what point does it no longer make sense to prop up the US dollar? I don’t know. The average American has carries over $7000.00 of credit debt, the nation is in debt, and I think eventually we will have to pay up -- debt ratios cannot go up forever can they? So I don’t know if I am predicting doom and gloom, but we have experienced a VERY long string of economic growth, with very little inflation (minus healthcare, and education) and if we were to string together another 20 years without double digit inflation for some duration it would surprise me, as inflation might (in the long term) help to reduce those debt ratios…
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I don’t agree with you on much, but your point should be well taken -- if one has hard leanings to the left or right -- if one then automatically decides that "they" have nothing truthful to say, it might be part of the problem we have in the US right now. His past statements on the governments always taking the side of the enemy seems predictable, and I think reflects more about him, than reality, but ... as for me, I DO think that inflation is a real threat -- I doubt very much it will be hyper-inflation, but we don’t need hyper inflation to wreak havoc....

The fact is the Chinese government holds Billions of US dollars and that has artificially inflated the dollar's value -- it is done, as many know here, to keep their imports keep -- at what point does it no longer make sense to prop up the US dollar? I don’t know. The average American has carries over $7000.00 of credit debt, the nation is in debt, and I think eventually we will have to pay up -- debt ratios cannot go up forever can they? So I don’t know if I am predicting doom and gloom, but we have experienced a VERY long string of economic growth, with very little inflation (minus healthcare, and education) and if we were to string together another 20 years without double digit inflation for some duration it would surprise me, as inflation might (in the long term) help to reduce those debt ratios…
This is what is so worrying. Often in history -- wars have followed financial crises. Since we are already at war -- this would mean a sharp escalation.

Today Robert Baer -- former CIA agent -- weighed in on the Iran situation -- and says a US attack is likely. We are clear;y at a tipping point in history -- but what straw will set it off -- no one knows but the Almighty.

Even if we escape the worst -- the neo cons have so looted our nation that we could end up selling off our national treasures just to pay the bill. Don't be surprised if you one day see Chinese gatekeepers at the entrances of Yosemite and Yellowstone. Japanese could end up owning our national forests.

It's hard to know how bad it's going to get -- but it's certain to get a lot worse. This will likely happen even under Hillary -- who has been owned since the days when Bill got kickbacks from the coke pipeline through Mena, AR. From the day he collected his first payoff to look the other way -- he was a lost cause. This explains his lifeless presidency and the roaring 1990s.

The corruption in America is too deep for patch jobs and band aids.

I am no Cassandra -- just reading the writing that's been on the wall a very long time.
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This is what is so worrying. Often in history -- wars have followed financial crises. Since we are already at war -- this would mean a sharp escalation.

Today Robert Baer -- former CIA agent -- weighed in on the Iran situation -- and says a US attack is likely. We are clear;y at a tipping point in history -- but what straw will set it off -- no one knows but the Almighty.

Even if we escape the worst -- the neo cons have so looted our nation that we could end up selling off our national treasures just to pay the bill. Don't be surprised if you one day see Chinese gatekeepers at the entrances of Yosemite and Yellowstone. Japanese could end up owning our national forests.

It's hard to know how bad it's going to get -- but it's certain to get a lot worse. This will likely happen even under Hillary -- who has been owned since the days when Bill got kickbacks from the coke pipeline through Mena, AR. From the day he collected his first payoff to look the other way -- he was a lost cause. This explains his lifeless presidency and the roaring 1990s.

The corruption in America is too deep for patch jobs and band aids.

I am no Cassandra -- just reading the writing that's been on the wall a very long time.


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We are clear;y at a tipping point in history -- but what straw will set it off -- no one knows but the Almighty.
I wish I had a dime for every time you've expressed this sort of thing...

I'd buy myself Glacier National Park...
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I wish I had a dime for every time you've expressed this sort of thing...

I'd buy myself Glacier National Park...
I'd sort of like to have Royal Gorge. I wonder if I took a pee
off the bridge if any of it would make it down to the Arkansas?
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"This is what is so worrying. Often in history -- wars have followed financial crises. Since we are already at war -- this would mean a sharp escalation."

True -- in Germany's case the debts of many were placed squarely on their backs -- they printed money to get out from under it, and it got to the point where they were literally carrying hundreds of dollars to buy loaves of bread -- I think that was about 1923 -- so the money became worthless, and created opportunity for Hitler to exploit the common man's frustrations, a create a convenient scapegoat – the Jews.

However, in the case of this war -- (I know you hate it) But put that aside for a moment -- in terms of dollars, there are proposals --like universal healthcare that will cost many, many times the amount in terms of dollars.
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