marshall on 950am - The Orange Mane

kamakazi_kal · 08-16-2007, 11:52 AM

program alert

Man-Goblin · 08-16-2007, 11:56 AM

Short interview, but here ya go...

-it's 'HOT HOT HOT' down there
-Leg is not 100% but is loosening up and feels better
-Converstaion with Shanahan about returning to practice was like a "father and son kind of thing"
-not worried about chemistry with Cutler as much as getting into football shape.
-Doesn't bother him that people doubt him or his commitment because he wants to prove them wrong

kamakazi_kal · 08-16-2007, 11:56 AM

basicly commented on how shanny had to have a "father to son" conversation with him to get him off the trainers table.

also said that he looks foward to proving everyone who thinks he's soft wrong.

said the hardest part was getting him self in shape after such a long layoff.

says his leg feels fine and he will be good to go for preseason game 2

cutthemdown · 08-16-2007, 02:44 PM

the Mane calling him soft is the same thing as the mind games Shanny plays with players. It's just our way of getting into a players head and making him do what we want, which in Marshalls case is to completly dominate. Just another way we help the team.

Mountain Bronco · 08-16-2007, 02:49 PM

I am begining to dislike this Marshal character. After watching the HBO report with Walker and his role in the D-Will situation it was very disturbing. Also the incident this summer with the GF, he seems like he really is a baby TO. Getting in fights at a club, with his girl friend, not playing through a minor injury etc... I hope he is not as much of a pre-madona as I suspect he is.

Turf Shaman · 08-16-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Bronco

I am begining to dislike this Marshal character. After watching the HBO report with Walker and his role in the D-Will situation it was very disturbing. Also the incident this summer with the GF, he seems like he really is a baby TO. Getting in fights at a club, with his girl friend, not playing through a minor injury etc... I hope he is not as much of a pre-madona as I suspect he is.

Whatever happened at the club on New Years as far as Marshall and the champagne spray and confrontation, etc., as far as we know it's the type of thing that happens all the time with all kinds of people. Only this time some degenerate decided to fire shots into a limo and D-Will was killed. Suggesting Marshall had a "role in the D-Will situation" is a way of absolving some of the blame from the killers, who deserve 100% of it.

He's probably not a saint, but most athletes aren't. Frankly nothing we've heard about him suggests he's any worse than the average athlete. Getting into a fight with his girl? He didn't hit her.

dbfan21 · 08-16-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Bronco

I am begining to dislike this Marshal character. After watching the HBO report with Walker and his role in the D-Will situation it was very disturbing. Also the incident this summer with the GF, he seems like he really is a baby TO. Getting in fights at a club, with his girl friend, not playing through a minor injury etc... I hope he is not as much of a pre-madona as I suspect he is.

He'll be alright. It's just been some bad timing with these incidents. I am sure you have gotten into a heated argument with a girlfriend...I know I have. And I am sure you have stuck up for one of your friends when some
d!ckhead was mouthing off...I know I have. The bottom line is that this a 23-year old kid who is learning to adjust to life in the spotlight. Give him some slack and let's see how he responds this year.

DukeWoody · 08-16-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Bronco

I am begining to dislike this Marshal character. After watching the HBO report with Walker and his role in the D-Will situation it was very disturbing. Also the incident this summer with the GF, he seems like he really is a baby TO. Getting in fights at a club, with his girl friend, not playing through a minor injury etc... I hope he is not as much of a pre-madona as I suspect he is.

Sarcasm??

vancejohnson82 · 08-16-2007, 03:22 PM

I hope that was sarcasm...i thought we went over this during an entire 4 day thread

anyone dissecting Marshall's character over this off-season should boycott the games he plays in if they feel so strongly about it

Beantown Bronco · 08-16-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vancejohnson82

anyone dissecting Marshall's character over this off-season should boycott the games he plays in if they feel so strongly about it

Luckily for those who choose to boycott the games Marshall plays in, it should only be about 2 or 3 games before he gets his next ouchie.....so you won't be missing much

fdf · 08-16-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Turf Shaman

Suggesting Marshall had a "role in the D-Will situation" is a way of absolving some of the blame from the killers, who deserve 100% of it.

I hear this on the board and it's just wrong. Suggesting that Marshall exercised VERY bad judgment spraying champagne around on gang-bangers at a party doesn't, in my mind, excuse the gang-bangers at all. Nor does suggesting that Denver Broncos don't belong in an establishment frequented by gang-bangers. That's the same kind of logic that says a serial murderer had a bad childhood, so let him off. If someone buys that kind of idiocy, they're beyond hope anyway; so don't worry about them. For some reason, people think that the "To Blame" sign can only be hung around one neck. In the real world, it doesn't work that way.

Adults can recognize that the shooters were really bad guys who had NO excuse for what they did while, at the same time, understand that some really stupid judgments on the part of Denver Broncos preceded the killing.

Once upon a time, I hung with a lot of really bad people in LA. Stuff happens around them. If you hang there enough, chances are, it will be bad stuff. Being around them is bad enough. Spraying them with champagne is a really, really bad idea. As far as I'm concerned, the bad stuff that happened to me was entirely my own fault. At the same time, the folks who did the bad stuff are, IMHO, entirely responsible for and to blame for their actions. See, there are at least two available signs. "Stupid" and "At Fault."

Turf Shaman · 08-17-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fdf

I hear this on the board and it's just wrong. Suggesting that Marshall exercised VERY bad judgment spraying champagne around on gang-bangers at a party doesn't, in my mind, excuse the gang-bangers at all. Nor does suggesting that Denver Broncos don't belong in an establishment frequented by gang-bangers. That's the same kind of logic that says a serial murderer had a bad childhood, so let him off. If someone buys that kind of idiocy, they're beyond hope anyway; so don't worry about them. For some reason, people think that the "To Blame" sign can only be hung around one neck. In the real world, it doesn't work that way.

Adults can recognize that the shooters were really bad guys who had NO excuse for what they did while, at the same time, understand that some really stupid judgments on the part of Denver Broncos preceded the killing.

Once upon a time, I hung with a lot of really bad people in LA. Stuff happens around them. If you hang there enough, chances are, it will be bad stuff. Being around them is bad enough. Spraying them with champagne is a really, really bad idea. As far as I'm concerned, the bad stuff that happened to me was entirely my own fault. At the same time, the folks who did the bad stuff are, IMHO, entirely responsible for and to blame for their actions. See, there are at least two available signs. "Stupid" and "At Fault."

I specifically said Marshall isn't a saint. Did he use bad judgment? Probably. I'm not going to get on him for spraying champagne at a freakin' New Years Party for crying out loud. But if he or his cousin escalated the situation by confronting them, that would certainly have been foolish, but I don't have enough knowledge about what specifically happened to make a fair judgment (and I doubt anyone posting on this board does either). Still, I would guess he used bad judgement that night.

But I still have to vehemently object to the verbiage originally used, suggesting he had a "role" in the incident, which happened to be a murder. That absolutely shifts the focus away from the actions of the murderers. How does it not? It's very simple, questioning his behavior independently of what eventually happened does not, suggesting his behavior had a role in the murder by behaving stupidly does. As far as the Broncos being at an establishment "frequented by gang bangers", are you speaking from a position of credibility? Do you know the club they went to? I don't, but it was a club in downtown Denver, and I seriously doubt there are establishments downtown that exclusively cater to gang bangers. Just because there were gang bangers there that night does not mean that it has a reputation of being a club where gang bangers hang out, or that anyone should have been aware of that.

Broncos_OTM · 08-17-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Turf Shaman

I specifically said Marshall isn't a saint. Did he use bad judgment? Probably. I'm not going to get on him for spraying champagne at a freakin' New Years Party for crying out loud. But if he or his cousin escalated the situation by confronting them, that would certainly have been foolish, but I don't have enough knowledge about what specifically happened to make a fair judgment (and I doubt anyone posting on this board does either). Still, I would guess he used bad judgement that night.

But I still have to vehemently object to the verbiage originally used, suggesting he had a "role" in the incident, which happened to be a murder. That absolutely shifts the focus away from the actions of the murderers. How does it not? It's very simple, questioning his behavior independently of what eventually happened does not, suggesting his behavior had a role in the murder by behaving stupidly does. As far as the Broncos being at an establishment "frequented by gang bangers", are you speaking from a position of credibility? Do you know the club they went to? I don't, but it was a club in downtown Denver, and I seriously doubt there are establishments downtown that exclusively cater to gang bangers. Just because there were gang bangers there that night does not mean that it has a reputation of being a club where gang bangers hang out, or that anyone should have been aware of that.

Then what in the world would you consider "what the hell saloon" its own and pretty much opperated by the SOS if i remember right. there are bars that catter to a certain type of people.

Turf Shaman · 08-17-2007, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncos_OTM

Then what in the world would you consider "what the hell saloon" its own and pretty much opperated by the SOS if i remember right. there are bars that catter to a certain type of people.

I'm not saying there aren't bars that cater to certain types of people... I don't know the club where it took place was... I'm just skeptical that there would be a club in downtown Denver that caters to gang bangers. If there are clubs that cater to gang bangers, I'd think it'd be in seedier areas. As I recall, there was a CU student who was at the club who was also injured in the shooting. Should we assume she was in a gang too? It just seems highly dubious to assume that there was any reason for people to think that a club in downtown on New Years would be a dangerous place to be.

RkyMtnThunder · 08-17-2007, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Bronco

I am begining to dislike this Marshal character. After watching the HBO report with Walker and his role in the D-Will situation it was very disturbing. Also the incident this summer with the GF, he seems like he really is a baby TO. Getting in fights at a club, with his girl friend, not playing through a minor injury etc... I hope he is not as much of a pre-madona as I suspect he is.

I think we have all had moments we arent proud of in life. Arguments, etc.

And as far as spraying champagne at a night club that started a fight...it was New Years Eve! That kinda stuff just happens. Marshall did little different than any other 23 year old kid on New Years Eve - having a good time. For people to get so bent out of shape over something like that is nothing more than people LOOKING for a fight. Unless I hear he intentionally sprayed it on someone and drenched them or something, I cant fault the kid for this.

As far as injury goes, tough to say since we arent in his shoes. I give him this one (for now), and hopefully its not a pattern we can expect to see

Mountain Bronco · 08-17-2007, 01:00 PM

I didn't ever mean to absolve anyone of the killing of D-will. It was the gang bangers actions and theirs alone that deserves guilt and hopefully severe punishment.

Just get the feeling this kid is a pre-madona like so many other recievers in the leauge. Hope he gets it right. First offseason has to be tough for these guys with all the things they must adjust to, being in the lime light all the time. Can't imagine it. Hopefully it is a one time deal.

Didn't know this was addressed already, I don't spend my life in here.

08-16-2007, 11:52 AM	#1
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08-16-2007, 11:56 AM	#2
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Short interview, but here ya go... -it's 'HOT HOT HOT' down there -Leg is not 100% but is loosening up and feels better -Converstaion with Shanahan about returning to practice was like a "father and son kind of thing" -not worried about chemistry with Cutler as much as getting into football shape. -Doesn't bother him that people doubt him or his commitment because he wants to prove them wrong

08-16-2007, 02:44 PM	#4
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,424	the Mane calling him soft is the same thing as the mind games Shanny plays with players. It's just our way of getting into a players head and making him do what we want, which in Marshalls case is to completly dominate. Just another way we help the team.

08-16-2007, 02:49 PM	#5
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 1,446	I am begining to dislike this Marshal character. After watching the HBO report with Walker and his role in the D-Will situation it was very disturbing. Also the incident this summer with the GF, he seems like he really is a baby TO. Getting in fights at a club, with his girl friend, not playing through a minor injury etc... I hope he is not as much of a pre-madona as I suspect he is.

08-16-2007, 03:22 PM	#9
vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,989 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	I hope that was sarcasm...i thought we went over this during an entire 4 day thread anyone dissecting Marshall's character over this off-season should boycott the games he plays in if they feel so strongly about it

08-17-2007, 01:00 PM	#16
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 1,446	I didn't ever mean to absolve anyone of the killing of D-will. It was the gang bangers actions and theirs alone that deserves guilt and hopefully severe punishment. Just get the feeling this kid is a pre-madona like so many other recievers in the leauge. Hope he gets it right. First offseason has to be tough for these guys with all the things they must adjust to, being in the lime light all the time. Can't imagine it. Hopefully it is a one time deal. Didn't know this was addressed already, I don't spend my life in here.