It's about time.....

[jhat01]

Innocents Of Haditha
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, August 13, 2007 4:20 PM PT

Justice: It has been about a year since Democrat John Murtha said a Marine had murdered innocent Iraqi civilians in cold blood. Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt is a free man today — and an innocent one.

On May 31, 2006, the Los Angeles Times editorially bellowed, "What happened at the Iraqi My Lai?" The charge was that on Nov. 19, 2005, the Marines of Kilo Company, Third Battalion, First Marine Regiment, had gone on a killing rampage in the town of Haditha in Anbar province. The rampage was said to be in response to the killing by IED of one of their comrades.


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That May, Rep. Murtha, D-Pa., vowed at a press conference an investigation would prove "our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

As the facts have come out, the Haditha incident has been revealed as a media-driven rush to judgment embraced by Democrats to justify their animus toward the war on terror in Iraq. It is a case that, outside of its combat context, eerily resembles the attempted railroading of the Duke lacrosse players.

On Aug. 9 charges were formally dismissed against Lance Cpl. Sharratt, one of the three remaining Marines charged with murder at Haditha. But the charges weren't dropped for lack of evidence.

Lt. Gen. James Mattis, the general overseeing the case, reminded Sharratt's accusers "he has always remained cloaked in the presumption of innocence, (and) with this dismissal of charges, he remains in the eyes of the law — and in my eyes — innocent."

Earlier, Lt. Col. Paul Ware, a court-martial hearing officer, had concluded there was no there there: "Whether this was a brave act of combat against the enemy or a tragedy of misperception born out of conducting combat with an enemy that hides among innocents, Lance Cpl. Sharratt's actions were in accordance with the rules of engagement and use of force."

Ware said prosecution of Sharratt could set "a dangerous precedent that . . . may encourage others to bear false witness against Marines as a tactic to erode public support of the Marine Corps and its mission in Iraq."

The latest example of the media's false witness against our forces in Iraq was the fairy tales of Army Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp in the pages of the New Republic.

U.S. soldiers were accused of gross and barbaric behavior including mocking a female civilian contractor whose face had "melted" in an IED attack. No corroboration of his stories has been found.

In a statement following his verdict, Gen. Mattis observed: " Sharratt has served as Marine infantryman in Iraq where our nation is fighting a shadowy enemy who hides among the innocent people, does not comply with any aspect of the law of war, and routinely targets and intentionally draws fire towards civilians."

Such was the case at Haditha. The charges against Sharratt and his Haditha comrades were spawned by a fallacious and dishonest March 27, 2006, Time magazine story that said they were guilty of "massacring innocent civilians." The story was based on false evidence provided by a known insurgent propagandist.

Time Magazine reporter Tim McGirk had written about how a "budding journalism student" who gave him a video taken after the Marines' alleged rampage.

Except the student was 43-year-old Taher Thabet al-Hadithi, head of a human rights organization whose only other member was Ali Omar Abrahem el-Mashhadani. The U.S. had watched both for some time, along with other Sunni insurgent sympathizers known to be living in Haditha. Intercepts of their cell phone calls alerted Marines to a possible Haditha ambush.

The facts as revealed clearly demonstrate that the incident was part of a planned ambush by insurgents that used civilians as human shields, and that despite the claims of Rep. Murtha and his media allies, this was not murder but the tragic result of a firefight in which U.S. Marines were honorably defending themselves.

Now, the truth also is undergoing a surge.


I would love to see this traitor McGirk brought up on charges, as well as the former Marine himself Murtha. It's bad enough that we shouldn't even be there, but to have our own citizens throw our Marines under the bus makes my blood boil. Semper Fi!

[Bob]

Watch those on this board who have lost the ability to see good and evil any longer root for the terrorists, claim molten metal was found at the twin tower sites, or claim some “but Bush lied” diversion rather than condemnation of a person who has become a traitor to his own country.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

As the facts have come out, the Haditha incident has been revealed as a media-driven rush to judgment embraced by Democrats to justify their animus toward the war on terror in Iraq.

Wow, that's a miserable spin job - even by right-wing standards.

[jhat01]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Wow, that's a miserable spin job - even by right-wing standards.

How do you see it? This Haditha incident.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by jhat01

How do you see it? This Haditha incident.

You can tell from the phrase "the war on terror in Iraq" that the author of this piece is a lapdog for the Bush WH.

[jhat01]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

You can tell from the phrase "the war on terror in Iraq" that the author of this piece is a lapdog for the Bush WH.

You may be right, but the point I'm trying to get out there, is that these guys are being found innocent one by one, and none of these turncoat a-holes that tried to send them up the river have anything to say about it.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by jhat01

You may be right, but the point I'm trying to get out there, is that these guys are being found innocent one by one, and none of these turncoat a-holes that tried to send them up the river have anything to say about it.

Was Colin Powell a "turncoat a-hole" for investigating My Lai?

[jhat01]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Was Colin Powell a "turncoat a-hole" for investigating My Lai?

Do you think the term "investigate" applies to what Murtha and McGirk did and said?

"Such was the case at Haditha. The charges against Sharratt and his Haditha comrades were spawned by a fallacious and dishonest March 27, 2006, Time magazine story that said they were guilty of "massacring innocent civilians." The story was based on false evidence provided by a known insurgent propagandist."

[Spider]

well I am glad , this turned out like it did , I just read that some marine was found guilty for rape and murder, damn shame too .......
But yes Bob Bush did lie , no getting around that ....... But those ****ing Dems are off on the wrong foot already

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by jhat01

Do you think the term "investigate" applies to what Murtha and McGirk did and said?

Are you trying to suggest that Murtha pronounced the men guilty before they were tried?

That's what it sounds like.

I'd like to see the quotes.

BTW, a dismissal of charges doesn't = proof of innocense.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by jhat01

I would love to see this traitor McGirk brought up on charges, as well as the former Marine himself Murtha. It's bad enough that we shouldn't even be there, but to have our own citizens throw our Marines under the bus makes my blood boil. Semper Fi!

Charges dropped against one troop, still pending against others and you think they are all innocent?

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Charges dropped against one troop, still pending against others and you think they are all innocent?

Do you think they are all guilty?

[jhat01]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Charges dropped against one troop, still pending against others and you think they are all innocent?

Yes

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Are you trying to suggest that Murtha pronounced the men guilty before they were tried?

That's what it sounds like.

I'd like to see the quotes.

BTW, a dismissal of charges doesn't = proof of innocense.

http://forums.gainesville.com/eve/fo...3321065246/p/1

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/...uit/index.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14150687/

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by jhat01

Yes

Really, who do you reckon executed all of them (women, children, etc...)?

The marine generals basically admitted there was a concerted coverup of the killings.

[jhat01]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Really, who do you reckon executed all of them (women, children, etc...)?

I don't know, ask the insurgant that McGirk interviewed

[jhat01]

"BTW, a dismissal of charges doesn't = proof of innocense."

Lt. Gen. James Mattis, the general overseeing the case, reminded Sharratt's accusers "he has always remained cloaked in the presumption of innocence, (and) with this dismissal of charges, he remains in the eyes of the law — and in my eyes — innocent."

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by jhat01

I don't know, ask the insurgant that McGirk interviewed

They must have executed themselves?

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Marine adviser recuses himself from Haditha case
CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) - A top legal adviser at Camp Pendleton will have no further involvement in the case against a Marine charged with murdering civilians in Haditha after he allegedly made "inappropriate and imprudent" comments about a related case.

Lieutenant Colonel Bill Riggs is a senior legal adviser to the general overseeing the prosecution of five Marines charged in the slayings. A military spokesman says Riggs recused himself from the case against one of the defendants.

Riggs advises the general about whether to pursue or dismiss charges against Marines.

A total of 24 civilians died when a Marine squad responded to a roadside bomb attack. Four enlisted Marines were originally charged with murder; prosecutors subsequently dropped charges against two of them.

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An investigating officer found Sharratt acted appropriately when he shot armed men hours after other Marines killed as many as 24 women and children in a Haditha house, the Post reported.

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[theAPAOps5]

jhat don't bother LA Bronco Fan will just go around spouting that you are a Bush lover and call you names. If you look he never provides anything of his own accord. He just runs around like a 3 year old repeating what mommy and daddy said.

I hate what Bush has done but I don't let it consume me. At least Ghaff tries to back his stance up even if it is really out there. LA is just a punk with too much time on his hands and can only repeat what others say or pile on in other posts.

[jhat01]

Originally Posted by Bronco Beerslug


They must have executed themselves?

Wow dude, I can see I'm wasting my time here. Once a Marine, always a Marine....That's all I have to say.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by ant1999e

http://forums.gainesville.com/eve/fo...3321065246/p/1

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/...uit/index.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14150687/

You're obviously confusing an accusation or a charge (all investigations into alleged wrongdoing start with one) with a guilty verdict.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

LA is just a punk with too much time on his hands and can only repeat what others say or pile on in other posts.

You're just a semi-literate twit who hasn't been around here long enough to have a clue.

[theAPAOps5]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

You're just a semi-literate twit who hasn't been around here long enough to have a clue.

You have your opinion I have mine, thats fine. I respect that, I have been here long enough to know you don't respect other people and are a punk. I respect the people who share different views but do so in a civilized manner. You wouldn't know civilized if it hit you in the face.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

You have your opinion I have mine, thats fine. I respect that, I have been here long enough to know you don't respect other people and are a punk. I respect the people who share different views but do so in a civilized manner. You wouldn't know civilized if it hit you in the face.

Do you have any idea how foolish and hypocritical you look when you accuse someone of lacking civility while calling him names in the same breath?

Probably not.

That's what makes you a right-winger.

[theAPAOps5]

You aren't worth civility, that is my point. I respect you think what you want but I also laugh at you. You refuse to provide the same respect to anyone who thinks differently than yourself. Funniest part is you lack any real wit or intelligence so you always fall back on "right-winger" or "Bush lover". Thats all you got and its quite funny. Now hurry up go read up on your next attack!