SI's Don Banks on Henry and Cutler vs. Young & Leinart - The Orange Mane

footstepsfrom#27 · 08-14-2007, 09:20 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...s/08/14/snaps/

Snap Judgments

Preseason observations on Cutler, VY, Jets and more
Posted: Tuesday August 14, 2007 3:30PM; Updated: Tuesday August 14, 2007 3:56PM

Jay Cutler started five games for the Broncos last year and compiled an 88.5 passer rating.

• Week 1 Preseason's top efforts

Musings, observations and the occasional insight as we (thankfully) put Week 1 of the preseason in the rear-view mirror ....

• Write it down and remind me if I'm wrong at the end of the year: Denver's Jay Cutler will out-perform both Vince Young and Matt Leinart this year in the competition between Class of '06 quarterbacks; San Francisco's Alex Smith will handily out-gun Jason Campbell among Class of '05 passers; and San Diego's Philip Rivers will put together the best season among Class of '04 members Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, J.P. Losman and Matt Schaub.

I also like Peyton Manning in Indy over Ryan Leaf.

• It took all of about two carries Monday night to see Travis Henry and the Broncos' running game are at the start of what could be a beautiful friendship. Henry hits a hole hard, and he's perfect for the style of running that always seems to be Denver's calling card.

Henry had 27 yards and a touchdown on five rushes against the 49ers, and it's not out of the question that he could top his career-best season of 2002, when he ran for 1,438 yards and 13 touchdowns with Buffalo. And that's with the Broncos also finding plenty of carries for Mike Bell, who churned for a team-best 51 yards on 10 runs against the 49ers.

• Not to make too much of Vince Young's getting homesick for his own bed at training camp, but it's not the sort of thing that makes me think he gets it entirely. It leaves me with a little question about his maturity level, and whether he thinks he has already arrived as an NFL quarterback, allowing him to make up a few of his own rules.

The truth is, Young had some spectacular moments last season and helped the Titans win some games they probably shouldn't have won. But he hurt Tennessee at times, too, and that seems to have been largely glossed over. You just wonder if he has a Year 2 wake-up call of sorts coming

• The most significant injury in Week 1 of the preseason? Bengals second-round pick Kenny Irons is out for the season with a knee injury suffered in the loss to Detroit, and now Cincinnati's plan to take some of the running load from the shoulders of the always heavily used Rudi Johnson may be off the board. The Bengals other options are Kenny Watson and Quincy Wilson, and both are question marks as a full-fledged No. 2 back.

Anyone in Cincy still have Corey Dillon's number laying around? Just kidding. I can't see Marvin Lewis making that call and can't see Dillon picking up the phone.

-more here... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...4/snaps/1.html

Victor · 08-14-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...s/08/14/snaps/

• Write it down and remind me if I'm wrong at the end of the year: Denver's Jay Cutler will out-perform both Vince Young and Matt Leinart this year in the competition between Class of '06 quarterbacks; [/url]

He must have forgotten to rank Brodie Croyle...this is an outrage.

theAPAOps5 · 08-14-2007, 10:03 PM

But, but Croyle had a higher completion rating in his first preseason game! Hands down he is better! Never mind no TD and and INT.

I think Cutler has a better year than Leinart because he has a better supporting cast and he is a better QB. Vince Young, that could go either way. Vince definately showed some stuff and I think they both will help their team.

I loved his Payton Manning over Ryan Leaf remark! I also think Rivers will way outshine his class.

clean · 08-14-2007, 10:08 PM

"Went to see Ratatouille a few weeks back. Am I the only one who noticed the chef named Skinner in the movie bears a remarkable resemblance to Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards? Right down to that French beret they both like to wear on occasion."

Dukes · 08-14-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

I also think Rivers will way outshine his class.

He showed last year he's the best QB of the bunch. Although he does have a great cast with LT and Gates.

cutthemdown · 08-14-2007, 11:16 PM

Cutler is the man, but I think we may be a little thin on pass protection. He better be ready to scramble.

OrangeShadow · 08-14-2007, 11:27 PM

it was fun to watch henry run over people

Los Broncos · 08-14-2007, 11:36 PM

I'm gonna wait to judge him till we play a better defense.

Paladin · 08-14-2007, 11:53 PM

I'm gonna wait and judge him when the whole Offense is together by about the Buffalo game. There were a couple of players missing on the Oline in the San Fran game, and the timing did not do well for pass protection. There were only two passing attempts by Cutler. However, Henry is a strong runner and he doesn't need much of a hole to go.....

I refuse to get too high or too critical right after the first freaking exhibition game.....

Sassy · 08-15-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeShadow

it was fun to watch henry run over people

I didn't get to see the game...but from what people are saying, he sounds a lot like TD

WIldbill · 08-15-2007, 12:07 AM

I think all of you on this message board dont know anything!!! You all think you are the "experts" on the Broncos but let me tell you that I think you are ALL stupid and no nothing!!! I know everything there is to know about the Broncos...I am their # 1 fan!!

Sassy · 08-15-2007, 12:15 AM

That's a "nice" 5th post you've got there!

cmhargrove · 08-15-2007, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WIldbill

I think all of you on this message board dont know anything!!! You all think you are the "experts" on the Broncos but let me tell you that I think you are ALL stupid and no nothing!!! I know everything there is to know about the Broncos...I am their # 1 fan!!

Your Mommy called, the macaroni is ready. She made the kind with extra cheese...

Garcia Bronco · 08-15-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WIldbill

I think all of you on this message board dont know anything!!! You all think you are the "experts" on the Broncos but let me tell you that I think you are ALL stupid and no nothing!!! I know everything there is to know about the Broncos...I am their # 1 fan!!

You know what they say.....true knowledge is knowing that you know nothing.

theAPAOps5 · 08-15-2007, 12:28 AM

freak6 is that you?

BlaK-Argentina · 08-15-2007, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WIldbill

I think all of you on this message board dont know anything!!! You all think you are the "experts" on the Broncos but let me tell you that I think you are ALL stupid and no nothing!!! I know everything there is to know about the Broncos...I am their # 1 fan!!

That was great.

ZONA · 08-15-2007, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

You know what they say.....true knowledge is knowing that you know nothing.

yeah but, if you know that you know nothing, then you know something because you know that you know nothing........right?

DivineLegion · 08-15-2007, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA

yeah but, if you know that you know nothing, then you know something because you know that you know nothing........right?

no...when you know nothing you know something but you know nothing because knowing onething wich is nothing equates to knowing nothing at all...

Hulamau · 08-15-2007, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WIldbill

.... stupid and no nothing!!!

Sounds like this should be your sig ... Its clear you are a 'no nothing'

DBroncos4life · 08-15-2007, 06:52 AM

Leinart will have a much better year stat wise

ohiobronco2 · 08-15-2007, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Leinart will have a much better year stat wise

I agree. Life is easy when you have Fitzgerald, Boldin, Johnson, James and Pope to throw to.

DBroncos4life · 08-15-2007, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiobronco2

I agree. Life is easy when you have Fitzgerald, Boldin, Johnson, James and Pope to throw to.

I agree 100% on that. My problem is Im might be one of a few here that wanted Matt over Jay. I think Jay does some very good things and I love what I see from him. Regardless Leinart will do good things in the NFL and he will be a winnner.

Beantown Bronco · 08-15-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Leinart will have a much better year stat wise

Playing from behind every week and not being able to run the ball 30+ times a game is the perfect recipe for big time fantasy QB numbers.

Paladin · 08-15-2007, 09:54 AM

You may be right, but I don't know.......

Greybeard · 08-15-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor

He must have forgotten to rank Brodie Croyle...this is an outrage.

Maybe he just thought he would save Croyle the embarrassment.

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08-14-2007, 09:20 PM	#1
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,116 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	SI's Don Banks on Henry and Cutler vs. Young & Leinart http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...s/08/14/snaps/ Snap Judgments Preseason observations on Cutler, VY, Jets and more Posted: Tuesday August 14, 2007 3:30PM; Updated: Tuesday August 14, 2007 3:56PM Jay Cutler started five games for the Broncos last year and compiled an 88.5 passer rating. • Week 1 Preseason's top efforts Musings, observations and the occasional insight as we (thankfully) put Week 1 of the preseason in the rear-view mirror .... • Write it down and remind me if I'm wrong at the end of the year: Denver's Jay Cutler will out-perform both Vince Young and Matt Leinart this year in the competition between Class of '06 quarterbacks; San Francisco's Alex Smith will handily out-gun Jason Campbell among Class of '05 passers; and San Diego's Philip Rivers will put together the best season among Class of '04 members Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, J.P. Losman and Matt Schaub. I also like Peyton Manning in Indy over Ryan Leaf. • It took all of about two carries Monday night to see Travis Henry and the Broncos' running game are at the start of what could be a beautiful friendship. Henry hits a hole hard, and he's perfect for the style of running that always seems to be Denver's calling card. Henry had 27 yards and a touchdown on five rushes against the 49ers, and it's not out of the question that he could top his career-best season of 2002, when he ran for 1,438 yards and 13 touchdowns with Buffalo. And that's with the Broncos also finding plenty of carries for Mike Bell, who churned for a team-best 51 yards on 10 runs against the 49ers. • Not to make too much of Vince Young's getting homesick for his own bed at training camp, but it's not the sort of thing that makes me think he gets it entirely. It leaves me with a little question about his maturity level, and whether he thinks he has already arrived as an NFL quarterback, allowing him to make up a few of his own rules. The truth is, Young had some spectacular moments last season and helped the Titans win some games they probably shouldn't have won. But he hurt Tennessee at times, too, and that seems to have been largely glossed over. You just wonder if he has a Year 2 wake-up call of sorts coming • The most significant injury in Week 1 of the preseason? Bengals second-round pick Kenny Irons is out for the season with a knee injury suffered in the loss to Detroit, and now Cincinnati's plan to take some of the running load from the shoulders of the always heavily used Rudi Johnson may be off the board. The Bengals other options are Kenny Watson and Quincy Wilson, and both are question marks as a full-fledged No. 2 back. Anyone in Cincy still have Corey Dillon's number laying around? Just kidding. I can't see Marvin Lewis making that call and can't see Dillon picking up the phone. -more here... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...4/snaps/1.html

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08-14-2007, 10:03 PM	#3
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	But, but Croyle had a higher completion rating in his first preseason game! Hands down he is better! Never mind no TD and and INT. I think Cutler has a better year than Leinart because he has a better supporting cast and he is a better QB. Vince Young, that could go either way. Vince definately showed some stuff and I think they both will help their team. I loved his Payton Manning over Ryan Leaf remark! I also think Rivers will way outshine his class.

08-14-2007, 10:08 PM	#4
clean Dazed And Frantic Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 820	"Went to see Ratatouille a few weeks back. Am I the only one who noticed the chef named Skinner in the movie bears a remarkable resemblance to Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards? Right down to that French beret they both like to wear on occasion."

08-14-2007, 11:16 PM	#6
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,416	Cutler is the man, but I think we may be a little thin on pass protection. He better be ready to scramble.

08-14-2007, 11:27 PM	#7
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	it was fun to watch henry run over people

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08-14-2007, 11:53 PM	#9
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,149	I'm gonna wait and judge him when the whole Offense is together by about the Buffalo game. There were a couple of players missing on the Oline in the San Fran game, and the timing did not do well for pass protection. There were only two passing attempts by Cutler. However, Henry is a strong runner and he doesn't need much of a hole to go..... I refuse to get too high or too critical right after the first freaking exhibition game.....

08-15-2007, 12:15 AM	#12
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	That's a "nice" 5th post you've got there!

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theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	freak6 is that you?

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DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,521	Leinart will have a much better year stat wise

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Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,149	You may be right, but I don't know.......