Marshall matters - The Orange Mane

dragondawg · 08-01-2007, 09:22 PM

Jim on demand: Marshall matters
By Jim Armstrong
Denver Post Staff Writer

Pick a year, any year, and there's a certain sameness to training camp. Every summer, players emerge and players regress, story lines develop and some issues become bigger than others.

So what's the No. 1 issue of Camp Shanny '07? That would be Brandon Marshall's continued absence.

This being Jay Cutler's first camp as the starting quarterback, the coaches wanted him to get as much work as possible with the No. 1 offense. But as long as Marshall isn't in uniform, the No. 1 unit won't be on the field.

With Rod Smith sidelined — it's a virtual given he'll open the season on the physically-unable-to-perform list — Marshall's development is more crucial than ever to the Broncos' big picture.

So what happens? Marshall joins Smith on PUP with a strained quadriceps.

With each passing day, Marshall's absence becomes a bigger concern. The coaches projected him to become a go-to guy for Cutler in his second NFL season. Now the powers that be are questioning whether he can play through injuries.

"There are two sides to the game," Broncos general manager Ted Sundquist said. "There's a physical side to the game and there's a mental side to the game. And you've got to be able to master both of them. There have been a lot of upside physical receivers who never quite accomplished what people expected them to because of the mental side."

Marshall said before camp that he hoped to be on the field in a week to 10 days. That needs to happen, the sooner the better. Brandon Stokley's impressive performance has enabled the coaches to breathe a sigh of relief, but the Broncos are a better team if Marshall is healthy and productive.

"We're counting on Brandon," said Sundquist. "We put a lot of time and effort into coaching him, getting him ready, but ultimately on a Mike Shanahan team you've got to go out on the field and perform. You're never going to be a finely tuned Ferrari quarter to quarter to quarter. At some point in time, your timing is a little off, there's a little wear on the tread and your oil is going to be low. It's never going to be 100 percent."

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_6517563

Victor · 08-01-2007, 09:42 PM

Marshall managed to fight through his leg pain to chase down his "girlfriend" when she tried to flee in the taxi with his cell phone. He has been officially called out. Will be interesting to see how he reacts.

Hopefully Shanny has Marcus Nash on speed dial.

footstepsfrom#27 · 08-01-2007, 09:54 PM

A pulled quad doesn't seem like it should take this long. I wonder if that's all that's wrong with him?

Jesterhole · 08-01-2007, 09:59 PM

I think they might be worried he isn't willing to play through pain, which is a death sentence for most NFL players.

bombay · 08-01-2007, 10:04 PM

I thought this was about eminem.

Paladin · 08-01-2007, 10:56 PM

I wonder if he is questioning whether he wants to play ball. He said he'd never been injured in college ball and he starts out his rookine and now the second season with an injury. Maybe Walker needs to counsel him....

Marshall was also frinds with DWill, and I have some questions about his motivation right now.

Having said that, he does talk the talk, but we will have to see if he gets on track by Friday or Saturday.....

listopencil · 08-02-2007, 12:48 AM

On the upside, Stokely is getting some quality time with Cutler and making the best of it.

theAPAOps5 · 08-02-2007, 12:55 AM

I wonder about Brandon Marshalls mental side. He seems to be a hot head. He got into it with his GF, who hasn't, but he tried to block a cabby from leaving and got the cops called. Also remember that there were reports that Marshall was the one who talked smack back to the gang members and was raising cane in the street that horrible night DWill got shot. He had to be pulled to the limo. He might not react well to negativity.

I speak from experience I was always losing my head when I was younger and it took a slap in the face to wake up. Maybe thats what Marshall needs. A good hard slap in the face.

baja · 08-02-2007, 12:59 AM

Maybe he caught worms from Moss

theAPAOps5 · 08-02-2007, 01:02 AM

Moss has staph not worms big difference!

baja · 08-02-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Moss has staph not worms big difference!

Well sure that's what they say in the papers but how do you think he got the staph in the first place, from the worms of course.

cmhargrove · 08-02-2007, 11:38 AM

Let's ease up on Marshall for a minute. Remember, he did have ann entire offseason with Jay so they must have some chemistry already. We'll see what happens when he starts playing next week.

We want him healthy for the season.

There is nothing he can't make up if he comes back this weekend, and plays throughout the preseason. If he comes back "right" then looking at Walker, Marshall, and Stokely is starting to look really solid - especially with a biggger O-line and better running game.

backup qb · 08-02-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bombay

I thought this was about eminem.

nice

Odysseus · 08-02-2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja fan

Well sure that's what they say in the papers but how do you think he got the staph in the first place, from the worms of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Death_Worm

If you are ever in Mongolia. I want you to be careful Baja. I mean if a guy can get taken out by peanut butter, bridges falling down, and this current heat wave. Man. You never can be too careful.

alkemical · 08-02-2007, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiettiger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Death_Worm

If you are ever in Mongolia. I want you to be careful Baja. I mean if a guy can get taken out by peanut butter, bridges falling down, and this current heat wave. Man. You never can be too careful.

I've heard about this beast myself....

baja · 08-02-2007, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiettiger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Death_Worm

If you are ever in Mongolia. I want you to be careful Baja. I mean if a guy can get taken out by peanut butter, bridges falling down, and this current heat wave. Man. You never can be too careful.

Parasites; the worst way to die

Warning not to be opened by the faint of heart or if you are at work

http://www.curezone.com/image_galler...nworms/000.jpg

Hulamau · 08-02-2007, 02:56 PM

I was afraid Marshall might be a head case with low self esteem, when I read how he moped around the class rooms in training camp last year after hurting his knee and going into the tank mentally. He's got this chance to get that straightened out or it will be the highway for him before long ... Shanny doesn't mind putting in a lot of effort and second chances in getting a guy up to speed physically and skill-wise, but once he gets the idea the guy is a loafer or a cry baby its curtains ...

alkemical · 08-02-2007, 02:57 PM

Where's the claw?!??!

Odysseus · 08-02-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulamau

I was afraid Marshall might be a head case with low self esteem, when I read how he moped around the class rooms in training camp last year after hurting his knee and going into the tank mentally. He's got this chance to get that straightened out or it will be the highway for him before long ... Shanny doesn't mind putting in a lot of effort and second chances in getting a guy up to speed physically and skill-wise, but once he gets the idea the guy is a loafer or a cry baby its curtains ...

Good to see you posting.

One of the perks of having Cutler is receivers are going to want to play here. If our so called "marginal" receivers put up any numbers at all we might get Javon some help on the other side in no time.

Marshall isn't ready for the big show and Rod stepping down right now does not benefit him, the team or his personal chance at greater recognition for the Broncos as well as for himself.

Kaylore · 08-02-2007, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bombay

I thought this was about eminem.

-Slap- · 08-02-2007, 09:12 PM

Coach killer.

mhgaffney · 08-02-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

I wonder about Brandon Marshalls mental side. He seems to be a hot head. He got into it with his GF, who hasn't, but he tried to block a cabby from leaving and got the cops called. Also remember that there were reports that Marshall was the one who talked smack back to the gang members and was raising cane in the street that horrible night DWill got shot. He had to be pulled to the limo. He might not react well to negativity.

I speak from experience I was always losing my head when I was younger and it took a slap in the face to wake up. Maybe thats what Marshall needs. A good hard slap in the face.

I'll remember that, next time, on the War and Politics board.

Kaylore · 08-02-2007, 10:55 PM

If Marshall gets on Shanahan's bad list, it's over. We were talking today and once you've pissed Shahanan off he wants nothing to do with you. I don't think Tatum Bell evercompletely got out of the dog house for his holdout.

Requiem · 08-02-2007, 10:59 PM

I hope Brandon doesn't end up being another name on the list of hyped up, talented receivers who suck balls.

theAPAOps5 · 08-02-2007, 11:33 PM

Marshall seems to be butting heads with Shannahan on this matter. I was reading Mason's blog over on denverbroncos.com and he quoted Marshall as saying I am going to listen to Greek, he is the one who has 30 years experience in this matter so I trust his opinion. Maybe he isn't directing that towards Coach but it seems like he is defending himself. Does sound like he will be returning soon though.

08-01-2007, 09:22 PM	#1
dragondawg All Pro Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,009	Marshall matters Jim on demand: Marshall matters By Jim Armstrong Denver Post Staff Writer Pick a year, any year, and there's a certain sameness to training camp. Every summer, players emerge and players regress, story lines develop and some issues become bigger than others. So what's the No. 1 issue of Camp Shanny '07? That would be Brandon Marshall's continued absence. This being Jay Cutler's first camp as the starting quarterback, the coaches wanted him to get as much work as possible with the No. 1 offense. But as long as Marshall isn't in uniform, the No. 1 unit won't be on the field. With Rod Smith sidelined — it's a virtual given he'll open the season on the physically-unable-to-perform list — Marshall's development is more crucial than ever to the Broncos' big picture. So what happens? Marshall joins Smith on PUP with a strained quadriceps. With each passing day, Marshall's absence becomes a bigger concern. The coaches projected him to become a go-to guy for Cutler in his second NFL season. Now the powers that be are questioning whether he can play through injuries. "There are two sides to the game," Broncos general manager Ted Sundquist said. "There's a physical side to the game and there's a mental side to the game. And you've got to be able to master both of them. There have been a lot of upside physical receivers who never quite accomplished what people expected them to because of the mental side." Marshall said before camp that he hoped to be on the field in a week to 10 days. That needs to happen, the sooner the better. Brandon Stokley's impressive performance has enabled the coaches to breathe a sigh of relief, but the Broncos are a better team if Marshall is healthy and productive. "We're counting on Brandon," said Sundquist. "We put a lot of time and effort into coaching him, getting him ready, but ultimately on a Mike Shanahan team you've got to go out on the field and perform. You're never going to be a finely tuned Ferrari quarter to quarter to quarter. At some point in time, your timing is a little off, there's a little wear on the tread and your oil is going to be low. It's never going to be 100 percent." http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_6517563

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08-01-2007, 09:42 PM	#2
Victor The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wheaton, IL Posts: 724 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Marshall managed to fight through his leg pain to chase down his "girlfriend" when she tried to flee in the taxi with his cell phone. He has been officially called out. Will be interesting to see how he reacts. Hopefully Shanny has Marcus Nash on speed dial.

08-01-2007, 09:54 PM	#3
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	A pulled quad doesn't seem like it should take this long. I wonder if that's all that's wrong with him?

08-01-2007, 09:59 PM	#4
Jesterhole Ring of Famer Ridin' the McFailboat... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,036	I think they might be worried he isn't willing to play through pain, which is a death sentence for most NFL players.

08-01-2007, 10:04 PM	#5
bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,330	I thought this was about eminem.

08-01-2007, 10:56 PM	#6
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	I wonder if he is questioning whether he wants to play ball. He said he'd never been injured in college ball and he starts out his rookine and now the second season with an injury. Maybe Walker needs to counsel him.... Marshall was also frinds with DWill, and I have some questions about his motivation right now. Having said that, he does talk the talk, but we will have to see if he gets on track by Friday or Saturday.....

08-02-2007, 12:48 AM	#7
listopencil [sarcasm]text[/sarcasm] BOOM! Winner. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The People's Republic Of California Posts: 8,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Broncos FO	On the upside, Stokely is getting some quality time with Cutler and making the best of it.

08-02-2007, 12:55 AM	#8
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	I wonder about Brandon Marshalls mental side. He seems to be a hot head. He got into it with his GF, who hasn't, but he tried to block a cabby from leaving and got the cops called. Also remember that there were reports that Marshall was the one who talked smack back to the gang members and was raising cane in the street that horrible night DWill got shot. He had to be pulled to the limo. He might not react well to negativity. I speak from experience I was always losing my head when I was younger and it took a slap in the face to wake up. Maybe thats what Marshall needs. A good hard slap in the face.

08-02-2007, 12:59 AM	#9
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,835 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Maybe he caught worms from Moss

08-02-2007, 01:02 AM	#10
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Moss has staph not worms big difference!

08-02-2007, 11:38 AM	#12
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,403 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Let's ease up on Marshall for a minute. Remember, he did have ann entire offseason with Jay so they must have some chemistry already. We'll see what happens when he starts playing next week. We want him healthy for the season. There is nothing he can't make up if he comes back this weekend, and plays throughout the preseason. If he comes back "right" then looking at Walker, Marshall, and Stokely is starting to look really solid - especially with a biggger O-line and better running game.

08-02-2007, 02:56 PM	#17
Hulamau Polynesian Paralysis In the Pocket Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hulaville and Sedona Posts: 8,031 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	I was afraid Marshall might be a head case with low self esteem, when I read how he moped around the class rooms in training camp last year after hurting his knee and going into the tank mentally. He's got this chance to get that straightened out or it will be the highway for him before long ... Shanny doesn't mind putting in a lot of effort and second chances in getting a guy up to speed physically and skill-wise, but once he gets the idea the guy is a loafer or a cry baby its curtains ...

08-02-2007, 02:57 PM	#18
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,691 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Where's the claw?!??!

08-02-2007, 09:12 PM	#21
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Coach killer.

08-02-2007, 10:55 PM	#23
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,019 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	If Marshall gets on Shanahan's bad list, it's over. We were talking today and once you've pissed Shahanan off he wants nothing to do with you. I don't think Tatum Bell evercompletely got out of the dog house for his holdout.

08-02-2007, 10:59 PM	#24
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,541 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I hope Brandon doesn't end up being another name on the list of hyped up, talented receivers who suck balls.

08-02-2007, 11:33 PM	#25
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Marshall seems to be butting heads with Shannahan on this matter. I was reading Mason's blog over on denverbroncos.com and he quoted Marshall as saying I am going to listen to Greek, he is the one who has 30 years experience in this matter so I trust his opinion. Maybe he isn't directing that towards Coach but it seems like he is defending himself. Does sound like he will be returning soon though.