How many people here wanted Tank Tyler? - The Orange Mane

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-01-2007, 01:26 PM

I know Mediator was trying to calm you guys down when the Broncos passed on him. Well, guess what? He's right. I watched Tank very closely today and he was horrible. Not sure how your rookie DT is doing but Tank sucks so far.

backup qb · 08-01-2007, 01:42 PM

Good news.

redrage · 08-01-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by backup qb

Good news.

So just the news from Bob in which a Chiefs player is struggling is credible? Gotcha.

DivineLegion · 08-01-2007, 01:53 PM

One thing that always held Tank back at State was his work ethic. On top of that his stock rose from playing on a line with Manny Lawson, Mario Williams, and John McCargo (3 first round D-linemen). What he lacks in burst and speed he makes up for with Size and power. Hes incredibly strong but incredibly lazy and that is what keeps him down...

cousinal11 · 08-01-2007, 02:04 PM

North Carolina linemen pan out. (Peppers, Ekubon, Greg Ellis, V. Holliday)

North Carolina State linemen don't. (crickets, even the first pick of last year, more crickets)

Paladin · 08-01-2007, 02:08 PM

Don't know what that welcher said, but it sounds like really great news. It is even better when that ragyred feller speaks; he's a mullet homer with myoptic vision.

Sort of like Petersen......

Killericon · 08-01-2007, 02:11 PM

I don't remember. I was so pissed about trading up for Moss and then taking another DE right after, I couldn't see straight.

SoCalBronco · 08-01-2007, 02:15 PM

It's still pretty early, Bob. Guys have to get adjusted to the scheme. Tank is more of a run stuffer than anything else. You shouldn't get too high or too low on any player that you see in camp, things change day by day.

theAPAOps5 · 08-01-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

It's still pretty early, Bob. Guys have to get adjusted to the scheme. Tank is more of a run stuffer than anything else. You shouldn't get too high or too low on any player that you see in camp, things change day by day.

Nice way to coach up the rookie reporter. Very kind of you to help the little people.

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-01-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

It's still pretty early, Bob. Guys have to get adjusted to the scheme. Tank is more of a run stuffer than anything else. You shouldn't get too high or too low on any player that you see in camp, things change day by day.

Yeah I know, I just haven't seen ANYTHING out of him yet. McBride has been much better.

DivineLegion · 08-01-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cousinal11

North Carolina linemen pan out. (Peppers, Ekubon, Greg Ellis, V. Holliday)

North Carolina State linemen don't. (crickets, even the first pick of last year, more crickets)

Well considering Greg Ellis is a LB, Ekubon is not an impact player, and the fact its suprising to see vonnie Holliday still in football...Thats a great list

(ill add Dre Bly to this list since were gonna talk D contributions)

But if you want to talk defense...

Lets not forget the fact that Mario Williams still has a few more years to prove himself (4.5 sacks isent that bad for a first year DE), the coaching staff in San Fran LOVE Manny Lawson Stephen Tulloch is the starting MLB in Tenn. in his second year, Terrance Holt has been a solid contributer for the Lions, and one of the best safteys in the game right not (Adrian Wilson) went to State...you seem to talking out of your ass...

Real men dont wear baby blue

P.S. Why did you list offensive starters? Phillip Rivers...Torry Holt...J-Co...huh...huh

Requiem · 08-01-2007, 02:38 PM

I thought Tank would have been a decent selection for us at our second-rounder or our third-rounder, but he's really a boom or bust type player. I'm glad that we took Crowder and Harris though instead of him.

Mediator12 · 08-01-2007, 02:59 PM

Tank lost his job as a junior after starting as a sophomore. Even thought the guy behind him was a very good player, that does not happen in college football. He was also suspended for having words with an officer of the law while intoxicated. Then, he made a whole bunch of scrub plays his senior year as the whole defense went to hell and quickly lost his draft stock as the game tape piled up. He was WORTHLESS at the senior bowl with poor OL playing against him and every other DL looking at least above average. In fact, ofter two days the coaches were really frustrated with his freelancing and not playing his gaps. That was sent to every NFL team.

That is not the resume of a first day pick with upside and talent to develop. I was shocked KC picked him, because he is not a cover two NT type either. He is a two gap plugger with limited mobility.

cousinal11 · 08-01-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DivineLegion

Well considering Greg Ellis is a LB, Ekubon is not an impact player, and the fact its suprising to see vonnie Holliday still in football...Thats a great list

(ill add Dre Bly to this list since were gonna talk D contributions)

But if you want to talk defense...

Lets not forget the fact that Mario Williams still has a few more years to prove himself (4.5 sacks isent that bad for a first year DE), the coaching staff in San Fran LOVE Manny Lawson Stephen Tulloch is the starting MLB in Tenn. in his second year, Terrance Holt has been a solid contributer for the Lions, and one of the best safteys in the game right not (Adrian Wilson) went to State...you seem to talking out of your ass...

Real men dont wear baby blue

P.S. Why did you list offensive starters? Phillip Rivers...Torry Holt...J-Co...huh...huh

Okay Greg Ellis has been a DE his whole career he just recently switched and I wasn't really talking about present players. I was only talking about defensive linemen, heck If I wanted I could have dropped Lawrence Taylor on you. There is more I just can't think of off the top of my head from the mid 90's when the Heels produced linemen like Marcus Jones every year.

Oh and by the way, your baby blue smack is weak. I'm not even that big of a college football fan but since it looks as if your a woofy, how bout beating us once before calling out Carolina fans. Moo u has only beaten the Heels just once in like the past 5 basketball seasons, and they've lost 3 straight to Carolina in football. Thats including a 2-9 season, state sucks!

Kaylore · 08-01-2007, 03:17 PM

Defensive tackle is one of the positions that takes the longest to adjust to when making the change from college to pro.

DivineLegion · 08-01-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cousinal11

Okay Greg Ellis has been a DE his whole career he just recently switched and I wasn't really talking about present players. I was only talking about defensive linemen, heck If I wanted I could have dropped Lawrence Taylor on you. There is more I just can't think of off the top of my head from the mid 90's when the Heels produced linemen like Marcus Jones every year.

Oh and by the way, your baby blue smack is weak. I'm not even that big of a college football fan but since it looks as if your a woofy, how bout beating us once before calling out Carolina fans. Moo u has only beaten the Heels just once in like the past 5 basketball seasons, and they've lost 3 straight to Carolina in football. Thats including a 2-9 season, state sucks!

Hey man every player I listed is a current player try again...

DivineLegion · 08-01-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

Tank lost his job as a junior after starting as a sophomore. Even thought the guy behind him was a very good player, that does not happen in college football. He was also suspended for having words with an officer of the law while intoxicated. Then, he made a whole bunch of scrub plays his senior year as the whole defense went to hell and quickly lost his draft stock as the game tape piled up. He was WORTHLESS at the senior bowl with poor OL playing against him and every other DL looking at least above average. In fact, ofter two days the coaches were really frustrated with his freelancing and not playing his gaps. That was sent to every NFL team.

That is not the resume of a first day pick with upside and talent to develop. I was shocked KC picked him, because he is not a cover two NT type either. He is a two gap plugger with limited mobility.

And if it werent for other people taking his tests and doing his HW he wouldent have made it out of college...He was one of the worst "student" athletes I have ever seen.

cousinal11 · 08-01-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DivineLegion

Hey man every player I listed is a current player try again...

All I said was a lot of good defensive linemen come from North Carolina and that a lot of defensive linemen from state don't pan out. That was all I said.

I don't even know what you want me to try to do?

Billy Clyde Puckett · 08-01-2007, 03:39 PM

The people who want Tank the most are the Fayetteville police.

ward63 · 08-01-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Defensive tackle is one of the positions that takes the longest to adjust to when making the change from college to pro.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

DivineLegion · 08-01-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cousinal11

All I said was a lot of good defensive linemen come from North Carolina and that a lot of defensive linemen from state don't pan out. That was all I said.

I don't even know what you want me to try to do?

Oh man I just got all riled up arguing about football...I love Rivalry and the game of football so arguing rivalries gets pretty passionate sometimes and I go off on tangents. I was just listing the majority of Defensive starters that played for NC State. No hard feelings I was just getting my football fix and using you as an avenue...sorry.

Florida_Bronco · 08-01-2007, 04:26 PM

You mean Mediator was right about a player and Bob was wrong? Well gee, real big surprise there.

cousinal11 · 08-01-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DivineLegion

Oh man I just got all riled up arguing about football...I love Rivalry and the game of football so arguing rivalries gets pretty passionate sometimes and I go off on tangents. I was just listing the majority of Defensive starters that played for NC State. No hard feelings I was just getting my football fix and using you as an avenue...sorry.

No hard feelings man.

DenverBrit · 08-01-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by redrage

So just the news from Bob in which a Chiefs player is struggling is credible? Gotcha.

It's not just about the Chiefs.......
.... any news where Boob has made an ass of himself is also considered credible.

OrangeShadow · 08-01-2007, 06:08 PM

good to hear because i was on the bandwagon to draft tank

08-01-2007, 01:26 PM	#1
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,931 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	How many people here wanted Tank Tyler? I know Mediator was trying to calm you guys down when the Broncos passed on him. Well, guess what? He's right. I watched Tank very closely today and he was horrible. Not sure how your rookie DT is doing but Tank sucks so far.

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SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,509 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	It's still pretty early, Bob. Guys have to get adjusted to the scheme. Tank is more of a run stuffer than anything else. You shouldn't get too high or too low on any player that you see in camp, things change day by day. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,343 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Defensive tackle is one of the positions that takes the longest to adjust to when making the change from college to pro. Last edited by Kaylore; 08-01-2007 at 03:31 PM..

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08-01-2007, 01:42 PM	#2
backup qb Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shelbyville,Il Posts: 1,245	Good news.

08-01-2007, 01:53 PM	#4
DivineLegion There can only be one... G.O.A.T Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Peak of Good Living Posts: 4,197 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	One thing that always held Tank back at State was his work ethic. On top of that his stock rose from playing on a line with Manny Lawson, Mario Williams, and John McCargo (3 first round D-linemen). What he lacks in burst and speed he makes up for with Size and power. Hes incredibly strong but incredibly lazy and that is what keeps him down...

08-01-2007, 02:04 PM	#5
cousinal11 East Coast Bronco Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dresseen	North Carolina linemen pan out. (Peppers, Ekubon, Greg Ellis, V. Holliday) North Carolina State linemen don't. (crickets, even the first pick of last year, more crickets)

08-01-2007, 02:08 PM	#6
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,152	Don't know what that welcher said, but it sounds like really great news. It is even better when that ragyred feller speaks; he's a mullet homer with myoptic vision. Sort of like Petersen......

08-01-2007, 02:11 PM	#7
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	I don't remember. I was so pissed about trading up for Moss and then taking another DE right after, I couldn't see straight.

08-01-2007, 02:38 PM	#12
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I thought Tank would have been a decent selection for us at our second-rounder or our third-rounder, but he's really a boom or bust type player. I'm glad that we took Crowder and Harris though instead of him.

08-01-2007, 02:59 PM	#13
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,703 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	Tank lost his job as a junior after starting as a sophomore. Even thought the guy behind him was a very good player, that does not happen in college football. He was also suspended for having words with an officer of the law while intoxicated. Then, he made a whole bunch of scrub plays his senior year as the whole defense went to hell and quickly lost his draft stock as the game tape piled up. He was WORTHLESS at the senior bowl with poor OL playing against him and every other DL looking at least above average. In fact, ofter two days the coaches were really frustrated with his freelancing and not playing his gaps. That was sent to every NFL team. That is not the resume of a first day pick with upside and talent to develop. I was shocked KC picked him, because he is not a cover two NT type either. He is a two gap plugger with limited mobility.

08-01-2007, 03:39 PM	#19
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	The people who want Tank the most are the Fayetteville police.

08-01-2007, 04:26 PM	#22
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	You mean Mediator was right about a player and Bob was wrong? Well gee, real big surprise there.

08-01-2007, 06:08 PM	#25
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	good to hear because i was on the bandwagon to draft tank