Strahan in orange and blue - The Orange Mane

kamakazi_kal · 08-01-2007, 11:03 AM

They were saying on NFL network last night that Strahan would be open to a trade and that his retirement is more due to Giants camp and I assume contending for a ring.

Our defensive line would look damn good with him on the strong side.

What kind of compensation do you think the Giants want?

Hotrod · 08-01-2007, 11:08 AM

I'd throw a pick at them........not sure how high thou.

bronco militia · 08-01-2007, 11:08 AM

no thanks

Arkansas Bronco · 08-01-2007, 11:08 AM

I would be willing to trade Al and Thump for him. In seriousness he would be a nice addition but I dont see how we can afford him and dont want to give to much for him after we just 2 DE in the draft.

Mediator12 · 08-01-2007, 11:16 AM

Screw the giants. Let them cut him and let him find his own home. If he really wants to go to a contender, he will look here. Strahan is one of the ONLY LDE's that is a complete player. In this system, he could challenge his own Sack record and immediately make this defense world class by himself. It all depends on what he really wants, a ring or money.

vancejohnson82 · 08-01-2007, 11:18 AM

reminds me of when we picked up Neil Smith towards the tail end of his career

how did that season end again

oh yeah, i think i remember

Popcorn Sutton · 08-01-2007, 11:18 AM

All this talk about size and we have another great DE at 255:

# 92 Michael Strahan
	Position: DE Height: 6-5 Weight: 255 Born: 11/21/1971 College: Texas Southern NFL Experience: 15

kamakazi_kal · 08-01-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

Screw the giants. Let them cut him and let him find his own home. If he really wants to go to a contender, he will look here. Strahan is one of the ONLY LDE's that is a complete player. In this system, he could challenge his own Sack record and immediately make this defense world class by himself. It all depends on what he really wants, a ring or money.

they did say that money was not a concern and that he by retiring is set to lose 4 million in pay and a percentage of his signing bonus, they made is sound as if money had nothing to do with it and that he wasnt "holding out" but more just does not want to play for the Giants anymore (i assume coughlin has a little to do with that)

Hotrod · 08-01-2007, 11:21 AM

The more I think about it you bring this cat in yesterday. He instantly brings the Dline to a whole new level.

Stormontheplains · 08-01-2007, 11:24 AM

he plays the run almost as well as he pass rushes! would be a great pick up

Atwater His Ass · 08-01-2007, 11:32 AM

Hell yes. He's had a couple down years, but Strahan is still one of the best DE's in the league when he's got his game on. He'd be a great mentor for Moss, Crowder, and Thomas as well. If there was a reasonable way to get this deal done, I'd say do it.

Smiling Assassin27 · 08-01-2007, 11:35 AM

Get his arse down here. Give up a player and a pick, if necessary, IMO.

Crushaholic · 08-01-2007, 12:30 PM

Strahan 3 or 4 years ago would have been awesome. Now...not so much...

Atwater His Ass · 08-01-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Strahan 3 or 4 years ago would have been awesome. Now...not so much...

He's better than any DE on our roster currently.

Mediator12 · 08-01-2007, 12:37 PM

Strahan still Receives Double teams on both Running and passing plays and can still get to tthe QB. He had a 90% stop rate on runs and only 1.2 yards per rushing play at him. His sack numbers were down last year, but he still had plaenty of Pressure on the QB. He is the perfect fit for this new Scheme, even with slightly diminished nembers. Plus, he can get spelled more here and remain fresh as the scheme rotates much more than the Giants do on the DL. Also, Giants new scheme is a Jimmy Johnson PHI heavy blitz type. It is a lot harder on the LDE as they take up blockers more than penetrate and beat their guy one on one.

Orange_Beard · 08-01-2007, 12:38 PM

They looks to be in great shape. I would take a chance on him.

Atwater His Ass · 08-01-2007, 12:46 PM

For whatever reason, I think the guy just wants out of NY. He's pulling a bull**** move with them by annoucning right before TC that he's considering retirement, and then there was an article today that said Strahan is hurt that the giants are looking to move on without him and talking about replacements and fines. Well no ****. You do something like this without warning, and well, you catch people off-guard and can get some knee jerk reactions.

DukeWoody · 08-01-2007, 03:02 PM

I'm betting if he goes to another team,it'll be with a NFC contending team,somewhere like the Saints or Cowboys,its his best shot at a superbowl and he manages to stay closer to the east cost...

Man-Goblin · 08-01-2007, 03:07 PM

This reeks of a 36 year old vet simply not wanting to go through a full training camp.

tsr28 · 08-01-2007, 03:07 PM

Just hope it's not with Indy or New England if he does move anywhere.

TiZZaH · 08-01-2007, 05:10 PM

Listening to Sirius NFL last night and they said it IS about the money. If the GMen were to throw some cash at Strahan he would stop the retirement talk, but the Giants are not making any offers. This could just be speculation from the radio guys so who knows. I for one, would love to have him on our side, even if it is only for one year. Throw them an offer of a 4th or 5th rounder and see if they bite.

Drek · 08-01-2007, 05:28 PM

Basically what's going on is that the previous management/ownership regime promised to re-up his contract this off-season. A new crew is in now and they don't want to, believing that he only has a year or two left, so Strahan feels lied to (as I guess a decent number of the current guys were promoted from within) and pissed off.

I'm sure it doesn't help that they just aren't that good of a team. The Giants are supposedly pursuing Simeon Rice pretty heavily and he just got a clear bill of health from Dr. James Andrews. Doesn't look good for Strahan staying in NY.

Of course if he does leave I think he'll take the most money he can get regardless of where it is. He and his wife had a real messy divorce and it cost him tons of money. He's looking to get paid before his career comes to a close and he's left with very little of the millions he made as a superstar DE.

MechanicalBull · 08-01-2007, 05:31 PM

Here in NY on the radio Mara said the Giants will not renegotiate with him. I don't like the guy but if you could bring him in without costing an arm and a leg I wouldn't complain. The guy is a great player but he is not a leader(we already have a bunch of leaders so it wouldn't matter) and is always flappin his gums.

My odds of Strahan going to Denver: Slim and None

Smiling Assassin27 · 08-01-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Drek

Basically what's going on is that the previous management/ownership regime promised to re-up his contract this off-season. A new crew is in now and they don't want to, believing that he only has a year or two left, so Strahan feels lied to (as I guess a decent number of the current guys were promoted from within) and pissed off.

I'm sure it doesn't help that they just aren't that good of a team. The Giants are supposedly pursuing Simeon Rice pretty heavily and he just got a clear bill of health from Dr. James Andrews. Doesn't look good for Strahan staying in NY.

Of course if he does leave I think he'll take the most money he can get regardless of where it is. He and his wife had a real messy divorce and it cost him tons of money. He's looking to get paid before his career comes to a close and he's left with very little of the millions he made as a superstar DE.

You mean those Subway/Jared commercials ain't filling up his pockets with dough? Happy Gilmore raked it in when he did it...

OrangeShadow · 08-01-2007, 06:04 PM

for the right price sure

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08-01-2007, 11:03 AM	#1
kamakazi_kal I have a Teb0ner. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,163 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mayhem Miller	Strahan in orange and blue They were saying on NFL network last night that Strahan would be open to a trade and that his retirement is more due to Giants camp and I assume contending for a ring. Our defensive line would look damn good with him on the strong side. What kind of compensation do you think the Giants want?

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08-01-2007, 11:08 AM	#2
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I'd throw a pick at them........not sure how high thou.

08-01-2007, 11:08 AM	#3
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	no thanks

08-01-2007, 11:08 AM	#4
Arkansas Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,237 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	I would be willing to trade Al and Thump for him. In seriousness he would be a nice addition but I dont see how we can afford him and dont want to give to much for him after we just 2 DE in the draft.

08-01-2007, 11:16 AM	#5
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	Screw the giants. Let them cut him and let him find his own home. If he really wants to go to a contender, he will look here. Strahan is one of the ONLY LDE's that is a complete player. In this system, he could challenge his own Sack record and immediately make this defense world class by himself. It all depends on what he really wants, a ring or money.

08-01-2007, 11:18 AM	#6
vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,990 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	reminds me of when we picked up Neil Smith towards the tail end of his career how did that season end again oh yeah, i think i remember

08-01-2007, 11:21 AM	#9
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	The more I think about it you bring this cat in yesterday. He instantly brings the Dline to a whole new level.

08-01-2007, 11:24 AM	#10
Stormontheplains Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bronco Nation Posts: 1,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Andre Hall	he plays the run almost as well as he pass rushes! would be a great pick up

08-01-2007, 11:32 AM	#11
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Hell yes. He's had a couple down years, but Strahan is still one of the best DE's in the league when he's got his game on. He'd be a great mentor for Moss, Crowder, and Thomas as well. If there was a reasonable way to get this deal done, I'd say do it.

08-01-2007, 11:35 AM	#12
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,978 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Get his arse down here. Give up a player and a pick, if necessary, IMO.

08-01-2007, 12:30 PM	#13
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,044	Strahan 3 or 4 years ago would have been awesome. Now...not so much...

08-01-2007, 12:37 PM	#15
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	Strahan still Receives Double teams on both Running and passing plays and can still get to tthe QB. He had a 90% stop rate on runs and only 1.2 yards per rushing play at him. His sack numbers were down last year, but he still had plaenty of Pressure on the QB. He is the perfect fit for this new Scheme, even with slightly diminished nembers. Plus, he can get spelled more here and remain fresh as the scheme rotates much more than the Giants do on the DL. Also, Giants new scheme is a Jimmy Johnson PHI heavy blitz type. It is a lot harder on the LDE as they take up blockers more than penetrate and beat their guy one on one.

08-01-2007, 12:38 PM	#16
Orange_Beard Over Jay Cutler Todd Snider Rules! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leucadia, CA Posts: 7,836 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tony Scheffler	They looks to be in great shape. I would take a chance on him.

08-01-2007, 12:46 PM	#17
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	For whatever reason, I think the guy just wants out of NY. He's pulling a bull** move with them by annoucning right before TC that he's considering retirement, and then there was an article today that said Strahan is hurt that the giants are looking to move on without him and talking about replacements and fines. Well no **. You do something like this without warning, and well, you catch people off-guard and can get some knee jerk reactions.

08-01-2007, 03:02 PM	#18
DukeWoody Happenin Homer Homie Back to the drawing board Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In The Loft / Dog House Posts: 1,151 Adopt-a-Bronco: NEXT BIG STAR	I'm betting if he goes to another team,it'll be with a NFC contending team,somewhere like the Saints or Cowboys,its his best shot at a superbowl and he manages to stay closer to the east cost...

08-01-2007, 03:07 PM	#19
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	This reeks of a 36 year old vet simply not wanting to go through a full training camp.

08-01-2007, 03:07 PM	#20
tsr28 tsr280 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 140	Just hope it's not with Indy or New England if he does move anywhere.

08-01-2007, 05:10 PM	#21
TiZZaH HaZZiT When did LJ take his diapers off? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 39 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Nalen	Listening to Sirius NFL last night and they said it IS about the money. If the GMen were to throw some cash at Strahan he would stop the retirement talk, but the Giants are not making any offers. This could just be speculation from the radio guys so who knows. I for one, would love to have him on our side, even if it is only for one year. Throw them an offer of a 4th or 5th rounder and see if they bite.

08-01-2007, 05:28 PM	#22
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,317	Basically what's going on is that the previous management/ownership regime promised to re-up his contract this off-season. A new crew is in now and they don't want to, believing that he only has a year or two left, so Strahan feels lied to (as I guess a decent number of the current guys were promoted from within) and pissed off. I'm sure it doesn't help that they just aren't that good of a team. The Giants are supposedly pursuing Simeon Rice pretty heavily and he just got a clear bill of health from Dr. James Andrews. Doesn't look good for Strahan staying in NY. Of course if he does leave I think he'll take the most money he can get regardless of where it is. He and his wife had a real messy divorce and it cost him tons of money. He's looking to get paid before his career comes to a close and he's left with very little of the millions he made as a superstar DE.

08-01-2007, 05:31 PM	#23
MechanicalBull Interesting Times Ahead Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,825	Here in NY on the radio Mara said the Giants will not renegotiate with him. I don't like the guy but if you could bring him in without costing an arm and a leg I wouldn't complain. The guy is a great player but he is not a leader(we already have a bunch of leaders so it wouldn't matter) and is always flappin his gums. My odds of Strahan going to Denver: Slim and None

08-01-2007, 06:04 PM	#25
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	for the right price sure