Kizla fluffs J.C. - The Orange Mane

freak6 · 07-11-2007, 06:06 PM

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_6336438

Unafraid of Elway's shadow
By The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 07/10/2007 07:02:38 AM MDT

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Watch a video of Brandon Stokley and Jay Cutler at mini-camp, including commentary from Mike Shanahan.
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The kid QB thinks big. Jay Cutler telephones Brett Favre for advice. He studies videotape of Tom Brady.

A winner only steals from the best.

But what really should make you think that Cutler could make a big name for himself in the NFL is the fact he is the first Broncos quarterback unafraid to be himself since John Elway retired.

In Cutler, Denver coach Mike Shanahan has finally found a QB with the combination of self-reliance and savvy to step out of Elway's shadow without getting blinded by the light.

Everyone with eyes can see Cutler possesses an arm that's strong enough to lift a Super Bowl trophy when and if the time arrives.

But what sets Cutler apart, what gives him a chance to write his own legend, is his fearlessness.

He is not nervous to work in the NFL town that made Elway famous.

Brian Griese and Jake Plummer were scared of Elway's shadow.

There's an easy, unforced swagger in the way Cutler has moved into the most scrutinized job in Colorado.

Unlike Griese or Plummer (painfully uptight predecessors stuck with the impossible task of making folks forget No. 7), Cutler is unafraid to poke fun at himself.

From the pee-wees to the pros, there are only two statistics that really matter for a quarterback or coach. Wins. And losses.

When asked Monday about his meager track record in the NFL, Cutler did not cringe or snap. He put on a sheepish grin and casually shrugged the shoulders burdened with the heavy responsibility inherent to the jobs of quarterback or coach.

"It's been like that for a long time. It's going to be like that in the future," Cutler said. "What is my record, 2-3 now? Or something? I think Mike's is a little bit better than mine."

Cutler got that right.

Counting the playoffs and two championships won in Denver, Shanahan's solid-gold record (131-74) as a pro coach is what gives him the currency to bet so big on Cutler.

The acquisitions of running back Travis Henry and defensive lineman Sam Adams seemed to be as wise as they were necessary for the Broncos.

But, any way you cut it, ultimate success or failure for Denver this season will come down to Cutler and how quickly the young quarterback can progress from the trials of on-the-job training that were evident during his previous five games as an NFL starter.

"He's undefeated this year," said Shanahan, comfortable enough to crack a joke at the expense of Cutler's inexperience. "So he's done a good job."

There are loyal Broncomaniacs who maintain shrines to Elway in the basement, yet protest that it's unfair to keep comparing Denver quarterbacks to the man, the Biff and the legend.

Sorry, nobody said life as a Denver QB was fair.

Until the Broncos win another Super Bowl, the first two words in any discussion of football in this dusty old cowtown are destined to be "John" and "Elway."

Maybe it was growing up in the afterglow of a famous quarterback father. For whatever reason, Griese seemed almost defiant in his mission to pass through Denver incognito - which might explain why so few people missed him after he was gone.

And Plummer, bless his ever-loving rebel soul, wasted too much energy fighting against the idea that a well-paid quarterback had to live up to anyone's expectations, yet allowed himself to be coated in so much vanilla by Shanahan until even the die-hard faithful who loved Jake the Snake had trouble recognizing him.

New Broncos receiver Brandon Stokley, who used to work with a pretty fair country meat-cutter named Peyton Manning back in Indiana, has seen something in the demeanor of Cutler that's as impressive as the kid QB's arm.

"He's not afraid to take chances," Stokley said of Cutler. "And I love that."

Of course, for every young NFL quarterback, there can be a steely thin, dangerously sharp line between fearless and reckless.

To dance on that knife's edge, Cutler had better be 100 percent unafraid.

I'm betting on the kid QB to not only survive but thrive.

orange 4 life · 07-12-2007, 11:24 AM

nothing new.

kizzass fluffed plummer and griese also, though he bashes them now.
with griese, he said that his father and unflappable nature would allow him to be elways successor.
with plummer, he said it was his confidence and leadership.

whatever. it doesnt matter what that dip**** thinks.

bottom line is cutler appears to have a little bit of plummer AND griese in him (edit: clearly i mean a little bit of their GOOD qualities).
what i mean is that the guy doesnt seem to get too up OR down, but he ALSO is a bit of a clown and seems to be quite confident.
now add elways arm strength (okay, no one compares to the man, but the kid is REALLY strong

) and we have a kid that should be primed for success.

i just hope everyone is patient with him. give him time to grow.

Master___Pain · 07-12-2007, 11:30 AM

That was no worse than the fluffing of Cutler by the majority of the posters here

bronclvr · 07-12-2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange 4 life

i just hope everyone is patient with him. give him time to grow.

I agree 100% with that statement-I wonder at times what will happen around here if the kid stumbles this Year-

BroncoBuff · 07-12-2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

New Broncos receiver Brandon Stokley, who used to work with a pretty fair country meat-cutter named Peyton Manning back in Indiana, has seen something in the demeanor of Cutler that's as impressive as the kid QB's arm.

"He's not afraid to take chances," Stokley said of Cutler. "And I love that."

Please dear lord ...

... no more Stokely quotes comparing him to Peyton!

BroncoBuff · 07-12-2007, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronclvr

I agree 100% with that statement-I wonder at times what will happen around here if the kid stumbles this Year-

Well, he could stumble and throw 20 picks ... and our other young, new quarterback D.J. Williams could fall for every misdirection they run at him and disappoint too. We could finish 8-8 or even 7-9.

But we WILL be better than the chefs and faders, and Jay and D.J. both WILL be one year better

freak6 · 07-12-2007, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange 4 life

i just hope everyone is patient with him. give him time to grow.

Great final point. I am the poster child for putting Cutler in the HOF before he's even taken a playoff snap. I have faith in the kid though, the numbers those last 4 games were top 4 in the NFL.

orange 4 life · 07-12-2007, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freak6

Great final point. I am the poster child for putting Cutler in the HOF before he's even taken a playoff snap. I have faith in the kid though, the numbers those last 4 games were top 4 in the NFL.

i find myself putting the young man up on a pedestal also, but its absolutely unfair to him.
while his numbers were good, we went 2-3 those final 5 games, and 2 were just awful losses.

he'll be better this year, but he'll likely make alot more "bonehead" (everyone else's word, not mine) throws this year than plummer made in 3 years.
he'll ALSO make more jaw dropping completions in one GAME with that cannon for an arm than plummer made in 3 years, so its gonna be ying and yang for awhile, and i just hope no one jumps on him for the inevitable mistakes, a couple of which might lead to losses.

he'll likely take alot more chances than plummer, and taking chances doesnt always pan out, but in the long haul, you NEED a guy with no fear. you NEED a guy that KNOWS he can make every throw there is.
cutler is that guy.....if we give him time to grow and become the player we all know he can be.

bronclvr · 07-12-2007, 12:58 PM

Word!

That One Guy · 07-12-2007, 01:02 PM

Come on fellas, Stokely is already comparing him to Manning. I think this "let him grow" crap can be thrown in the can in exchange for a "win NFL MVP" campaign.

bronco militia · 07-12-2007, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange 4 life

he'll be better this year, but he'll likely make alot more "bonehead" (everyone else's word, not mine) throws this year than plummer made in 3 years.
.

that's impossible

Smiling Assassin27 · 07-12-2007, 04:34 PM

by week 4, this pigeon chested tosser will be calling for patrick ramsey and shanny's firing. calling him a tool is an insult to tools.

07-11-2007, 06:06 PM	#1
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	Kizla fluffs J.C. http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_6336438 Unafraid of Elway's shadow By The Denver Post Article Last Updated: 07/10/2007 07:02:38 AM MDT Multimedia Watch a video of Brandon Stokley and Jay Cutler at mini-camp, including commentary from Mike Shanahan. View an audio slideshow of the Broncos mini-camp. Link to NFL.com for more information and highlights. The kid QB thinks big. Jay Cutler telephones Brett Favre for advice. He studies videotape of Tom Brady. A winner only steals from the best. But what really should make you think that Cutler could make a big name for himself in the NFL is the fact he is the first Broncos quarterback unafraid to be himself since John Elway retired. In Cutler, Denver coach Mike Shanahan has finally found a QB with the combination of self-reliance and savvy to step out of Elway's shadow without getting blinded by the light. Everyone with eyes can see Cutler possesses an arm that's strong enough to lift a Super Bowl trophy when and if the time arrives. But what sets Cutler apart, what gives him a chance to write his own legend, is his fearlessness. He is not nervous to work in the NFL town that made Elway famous. Brian Griese and Jake Plummer were scared of Elway's shadow. There's an easy, unforced swagger in the way Cutler has moved into the most scrutinized job in Colorado. Unlike Griese or Plummer (painfully uptight predecessors stuck with the impossible task of making folks forget No. 7), Cutler is unafraid to poke fun at himself. From the pee-wees to the pros, there are only two statistics that really matter for a quarterback or coach. Wins. And losses. When asked Monday about his meager track record in the NFL, Cutler did not cringe or snap. He put on a sheepish grin and casually shrugged the shoulders burdened with the heavy responsibility inherent to the jobs of quarterback or coach. "It's been like that for a long time. It's going to be like that in the future," Cutler said. "What is my record, 2-3 now? Or something? I think Mike's is a little bit better than mine." Cutler got that right. Counting the playoffs and two championships won in Denver, Shanahan's solid-gold record (131-74) as a pro coach is what gives him the currency to bet so big on Cutler. The acquisitions of running back Travis Henry and defensive lineman Sam Adams seemed to be as wise as they were necessary for the Broncos. But, any way you cut it, ultimate success or failure for Denver this season will come down to Cutler and how quickly the young quarterback can progress from the trials of on-the-job training that were evident during his previous five games as an NFL starter. "He's undefeated this year," said Shanahan, comfortable enough to crack a joke at the expense of Cutler's inexperience. "So he's done a good job." There are loyal Broncomaniacs who maintain shrines to Elway in the basement, yet protest that it's unfair to keep comparing Denver quarterbacks to the man, the Biff and the legend. Sorry, nobody said life as a Denver QB was fair. Until the Broncos win another Super Bowl, the first two words in any discussion of football in this dusty old cowtown are destined to be "John" and "Elway." Maybe it was growing up in the afterglow of a famous quarterback father. For whatever reason, Griese seemed almost defiant in his mission to pass through Denver incognito - which might explain why so few people missed him after he was gone. And Plummer, bless his ever-loving rebel soul, wasted too much energy fighting against the idea that a well-paid quarterback had to live up to anyone's expectations, yet allowed himself to be coated in so much vanilla by Shanahan until even the die-hard faithful who loved Jake the Snake had trouble recognizing him. New Broncos receiver Brandon Stokley, who used to work with a pretty fair country meat-cutter named Peyton Manning back in Indiana, has seen something in the demeanor of Cutler that's as impressive as the kid QB's arm. "He's not afraid to take chances," Stokley said of Cutler. "And I love that." Of course, for every young NFL quarterback, there can be a steely thin, dangerously sharp line between fearless and reckless. To dance on that knife's edge, Cutler had better be 100 percent unafraid. I'm betting on the kid QB to not only survive but thrive.

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07-12-2007, 11:24 AM	#2
orange 4 life Old School Orange Home team qb homer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Anywhere, CO. Posts: 8,642	nothing new. kizzass fluffed plummer and griese also, though he bashes them now. with griese, he said that his father and unflappable nature would allow him to be elways successor. with plummer, he said it was his confidence and leadership. whatever. it doesnt matter what that dip**** thinks. bottom line is cutler appears to have a little bit of plummer AND griese in him (edit: clearly i mean a little bit of their GOOD qualities). what i mean is that the guy doesnt seem to get too up OR down, but he ALSO is a bit of a clown and seems to be quite confident. now add elways arm strength (okay, no one compares to the man, but the kid is REALLY strong ) and we have a kid that should be primed for success. i just hope everyone is patient with him. give him time to grow.

07-12-2007, 11:30 AM	#3
Master___Pain Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Springs Posts: 4,605 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rock Hoover	That was no worse than the fluffing of Cutler by the majority of the posters here

07-12-2007, 12:58 PM	#9
bronclvr Ring of Famer She is faster than you! 8.39 @ 156 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,996	Word!

07-12-2007, 01:02 PM	#10
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Come on fellas, Stokely is already comparing him to Manning. I think this "let him grow" crap can be thrown in the can in exchange for a "win NFL MVP" campaign.

07-12-2007, 04:34 PM	#12
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,970 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	by week 4, this pigeon chested tosser will be calling for patrick ramsey and shanny's firing. calling him a tool is an insult to tools.