Would Gaithers surprise you?

[TheReverend]

Would it surprise you if Shannahan and Sunquist made a move to shore up OL depth and spent a 3rd (potentially a 2nd) round pick to acquire starting OT potential in Gaithers?

It makes sense to me, but I can't imagine we have any semblance of cap wiggle left after we sign our other rookies. Also, can you imagine the media circus if Shannahan drafts another "questionable" player.

[OrangeShadow]

it wouldnt suprise me by any stretch.

[Drek]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Would it surprise you if Shannahan and Sunquist made a move to shore up OL depth and spent a 3rd (potentially a 2nd) round pick to acquire starting OT potential in Gaithers?

It makes sense to me, but I can't imagine we have any semblance of cap wiggle left after we sign our other rookies. Also, can you imagine the media circus if Shannahan drafts another "questionable" player.

I'd be very surprised if they used a 2nd, and I'm not sure if we can use a third having sent it to the Vikings to get Thomas.

Now if he's there when our turn roles around in the 4th I could see it, but we don't have the pieces to make a move before then and I'd be surprised if someone else doesn't.

Recent supplemental draft picks haven't panned out real well though. Take the supposedly "stud" LB the Bengals took a few years back (Ahmad Brooks?). When he showed up to camp he was grossly overweight and rusty as hell on the field. Been a big disappointment and if I recall they gave up a 3rd for him.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Drek

I'd be very surprised if they used a 2nd, and I'm not sure if we can use a third having sent it to the Vikings to get Thomas.

Now if he's there when our turn roles around in the 4th I could see it, but we don't have the pieces to make a move before then and I'd be surprised if someone else doesn't.

Recent supplemental draft picks haven't panned out real well though. Take the supposedly "stud" LB the Bengals took a few years back (Ahmad Brooks?). When he showed up to camp he was grossly overweight and rusty as hell on the field. Been a big disappointment and if I recall they gave up a 3rd for him.

Great post. I actually think the bengals popped off a 2nd for Brooks (but I've got only recollection and no facts to back that up). But for a talented linebacker that is pencilled in as your starter in his sophomore season... is that really a steep price to pay?

Gaithers is much of the same. Talented but off the field issues... the front office hasnt exactly shyed away from that in recent history.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

From what I have seen of him, he has quite a bit of talent, he just doesn't use it conisistently. I don't think he woould fit well with the other offensive linemen who are generally perceived as over achievers.

[broncosteven]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Would it surprise you if Shannahan and Sunquist made a move to shore up OL depth and spent a 3rd (potentially a 2nd) round pick to acquire starting OT potential in Gaithers?

It makes sense to me, but I can't imagine we have any semblance of cap wiggle left after we sign our other rookies. Also, can you imagine the media circus if Shannahan drafts another "questionable" player.

YES I would be. I like our line depth as it is but you are right that the Broncos don't care about off field issues if they can land someone they like.

[Phantom]

If Lepsis stays healthy the O line is in good shape, plenty of youth and depth.

[55CrushEm]

Originally Posted by Phantom

If Lepsis stays healthy the O line is in good shape, plenty of youth and depth.

Well, Matt Lepsis isn't young....he's 33. And Nalen is 36.

Hamilton is 30.

The other 2 are young though.....Kuper is 24, and Pears is 25.

Hopefully Ryan Harris will come along well over the next couple years to take over the throne at LT when Lepsis is gone.

I'm still worried about who's going to take over for Nalen when he retires. It seems that the only 2 guys we have in the waiting that are centers are Mark Fenton (undrafted FA)....and Greg Eslinger, who seems too small.

[SoDak Bronco]

Chris Meyers will likely get the nod, I don't think denver will look at this guy. No immediate need, and why take the risk if he has character issues, we have enough of those on the d-line.

[Crushisback]

Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

I'm still worried about who's going to take over for Nalen when he retires. It seems that the only 2 guys we have in the waiting that are centers are Mark Fenton (undrafted FA)....and Greg Eslinger, who seems too small.

If it was next year I'd bet Hamilton moves in there. Center is his normal position.

[atomicbloke]

What off-field issues?

The only one I am aware of are Gaithers' bad grades that made him ineligible for the 2007 season.

Are there more issues?

[Requiem]

You can take it to the bank that the highest Gaither goes in the Supplemental Draft is the third round. He has a lot of talent, and would be a first-rounder if he came out through the normal process and had got to play this year - but since that's not the case, teams aren't going to give up a very high pick for them.

Brooks, was actually taken in the third round.

And no, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Broncos go after him. I tried to get an answer from Mike Klis regarding this situation, and if he knew whether or not the Broncos had interested, and the reply I got was, "You seem to know more than me about it." - So no help there.

I think he's worth a Day 2 selection, considering he's a pretty solid talent. If Denver is willing to invest three picks for Thomas, I can't see why one would hurt here for Gaither.

[Drek]

I should've also mentioend that if there's some way we could use a 3rd in the supplemental draft I'd be ok with using it on Gaither. I'm guessing it'd be a situation in which we lost our '08 3rd as well. I'd gladly pay a 3rd two years down the road in exchange for someone with Gaither's talent now.

Definately jump on him if he's there in the 4th. We have some good young line talent as it is, adding another like Gaither would let them all grow together, developing continuity and teamwork for the near future when it'll be all on their shoulders.

[TheReverend]

Thanks for clarifying the Brooks pick, Req.

Gaither's excites me and I expect someone to take a shot at him in the 3rd, maybe early second if a ****ty FO gets trigger happy (paging Carl Peterson). Of course, the supplemental draft players with any shred of talent usually get overhyped due to the lack of real news stories. Regardless, if he slips to a second day pick I'd be glad to see Sunquist unload some camp fodder/developmental-picks-to-play-practice-squad-before-being-cut-2-3-years-later in order to get him.

[ICON]

Originally Posted by Drek

I'd be very surprised if they used a 2nd, and I'm not sure if we can use a third having sent it to the Vikings to get Thomas.

Now if he's there when our turn roles around in the 4th I could see it, but we don't have the pieces to make a move before then and I'd be surprised if someone else doesn't.

Recent supplemental draft picks haven't panned out real well though. Take the supposedly "stud" LB the Bengals took a few years back (Ahmad Brooks?). When he showed up to camp he was grossly overweight and rusty as hell on the field. Been a big disappointment and if I recall they gave up a 3rd for him.

Chris Carter was A good supple. player, Jammal Williams is one of the best 3-4 NT's in the game Bernie "the Brown" Kosar was pretty damn good and Ahmad Brooks is the man manning the middle this for the Bengals.



Brooks has already been announced the starter at MLB, the Bengals cut Simmons, a long time Bengal, who had a pretty solid season last year at MLB and who was once a first round pick.Brooks is a monster and when he did work out for teams last year before the supple. Draft he ran in the low 4.6's at around 275-280 lbs. because he was still healing from his ankle injury. Can you imagine what he runs now at 6'3 255lbs. with a full year of being healthy and a full year of NFL training under his belt? I bet it's in the high 4.5's.


Gaither dominated guys like Mathias Kiwanuka, Manny Lawson, Kamerion Wimbley, and held his own against both Gaines Adams and Calais Campbell [when they lined up against him]. The only sack he's given up in NCAA play was to Adams. I'll take that any day.

I think this guy is going to be great. Even though we don't have a 3rd round pick, I wouldn't mind seeing the Broncos use a 2nd round pick on him in the Supplemental Draft if he enters. That's a hell of an offensive line for the future right there in Gaither,

He's a RT in the pro's because he's a great run-blocker. He also has injury issues due to the fact that an injured neck was one of the main contributors to him becoming the backup to Dane Randolph this season. I can see him becoming a really nice offensive tackle in this league but he's going to have to keep his weight down a little bit more .

[Requiem]

We'll have to wait until the fourth, I'd still consider a second a little too high right now. Can't give up a third, since we don't have one this year. Only can give up the pick in the round you select him. I'd really like to grab him, but he's still pretty raw. Has a ways to go, but is more than worth a second-day selection.

[CBF1]

He will not be wearing the Orange and Blue this season. Will not happen

[Ray Finkle]

He has been called lazy....pass.....

[mattob14]

I'd love to see Denver pick up Gaither in the 4th if he's still available. The only problem I see is a little overcrowding on the OL. Hamilton, Nalen, Kuper, Lepsis, Harris, and Holland have six spots locked up, with Myers or Eslinger most likely making the squand as well. Pears and Meadows should be battling for the RT spot, which Pears should win. Even if Meadows is cut, Gaither would make 9 OL and Lepsis would still be the only experienced tackle on the roster. I don't know if that's a situation anyone in the front office would be comfortable with, although the trio of Harris/Pears/Gaither would a strong group for the future.

[Requiem]

Oh, I don't think it'll happen either, but a boy can dream.

[DukeWoody]

I just finished watching NFL channel,and they did a small piece on the supplementary draft where they had Gaither listed at 6'9 and 350lbs...

[footstepsfrom#27]

It would shock me. Shanny loves his free agent munchkin linemen.

[Paladin]

Don't see oit happening. There are a couple of teams that would pick well before Denver wo would likely take a flyer with him with a third. Faiders for one.....