Javon Walker = getting paid

[Kaylore]

I was looking at the stats for Walker last year and noticed something interesting. Denver is 5-1 when Javon Walker scores a touchdown. They are 4-6 when he does not. We are 1-6 in games where he does not have at least 100 yards of offense.

This correlated more directly than rushing yards, which is usually the real sign of win loss especially for rushing teams. Whether we had over 100 yards rushing or not didn't really matter last year. There were games where we put up 125+ yards on one player on the ground and still lost and we won games where we were held to below that total for ground offense.

This tells me that one of the keys to winning games, at least last year, was making sure that Walker was making plays and being productive. When Walker is dominating or even just making plays consistently the Broncos win. When he is shut down, the Broncos lose.

If we can get Marshall, Hixon (of course), Graham, Rod, Henry and Scheffler to give Walker regular good matchups, he should continue to be very productive and win us a lot of games.

[cmhargrove]

In all the excitement about our other players, it will be very exciting to see Walker in the number 1 role from the start, with a season of the playbook under his belt, with Cutler as the starter, (and of course Hixon).

I hope that Walker and Henry are both pushing 1500 yards by the playoffs.

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

I was looking at the stats for Walker last year and noticed something interesting. Denver is 5-1 when Javon Walker scores a touchdown. They are 4-6 when he does not. We are 1-6 in games where he does not have at least 100 yards of offense.

This correlated more directly than rushing yards, which is usually the real sign of win loss especially for rushing teams. Whether we had over 100 yards rushing or not didn't really matter last year. There were games where we put up 125+ yards on one player on the ground and still lost and we won games where we were held to below that total for ground offense.

This tells me that one of the keys to winning games, at least last year, was making sure that Walker was making plays and being productive. When Walker is dominating or even just making plays consistently the Broncos win. When he is shut down, the Broncos lose.

If we can get Marshall, Hixon (of course), Graham, Rod, Henry and Scheffler to give Walker regular good matchups, he should continue to be very productive and win us a lot of games.

for those games that we had over 100 yards rushing and still lost, look at the passing numbers for that game......it wasn't just Walker getting the ball, it was the suckyness that is Jake Plummer

[telluride]

More fuel for my theory that is Javon goes down, we're hosed.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by bronco militia

for those games that we had over 100 yards rushing and still lost, look at the passing numbers for that game......it wasn't just Walker getting the ball, it was the suckyness that is Jake Plummer

Oh I know, but I was trying not to go there. I really just want to focus this thread on how feeding Javon Walker the ball helps us win games. There's no question that you have to talk about the Quarterback when discussing that, but there are other things. The steelers game he took over and pretty much won it all by himself. I mean he got a player benched. He also won the Patriots game. In terms of God-given talent, he's probably the most complete receiver in Broncos history.

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by telluride

More fuel for my theory that is Javon goes down, we're hosed.

I used to feel that way about Rod Smith when he had Qb's named Griese and Plummer.

[Requiem]

I've never bought much into stats like that, but it's interesting. Kaylore, what the **** do you do all day?

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Oh I know, but I was trying not to go there. I really just want to focus this thread on how feeding Javon Walker the ball helps us win games. There's no question that you have to talk about the Quarterback when discussing that, but there are other things. The steelers game he took over and pretty much won it all by himself. I mean he got a player benched. He also won the Patriots game. In terms of God-given talent, he's probably the most complete receiver in Broncos history.

WE'll see......he's still no Rod Smith

[Requiem]

On another note, me saying that Walker wouldn't be that much of an upgrade continues to look more ridiculous, even though I was thrilled we landed him, and stated in my draft preview a trade for Walker on draft day was likely. I'm glad we have him. I expect he'll have around 80 catches and 1,300 yards or so this year. That'd be hot.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Requiem

I've never bought much into stats like that, but it's interesting. Kaylore, what the **** do you do all day?

Right now I'm filling in for a guy at CB Richard Ellis and the office is dead half the day. I read and type on the internet. It's not too bad and pays well.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Right now I'm filling in for a guy at CB Richard Ellis and the office is dead half the day. I read and type on the internet. It's not to bad and pays well.

At least you have that going for you. I got hired, but K-Mart is about ready to go under, so they can't even schedule me hours, and it's too late into the summer vacation (like a month) to be looking for another job. I get to be lazy, get to party - and be the catcher for our men's league softball team who has and never will win a game this year.

It doesn't pay well, but it's a riot.

Anyways, what kind of season do you see Javon having?

[broncosteven]

You have to account for the fact that Walker had a stiff tossing the ball in his general direction last year and still had those kind of stats.

I got to think this year Cutler will spread out the ball a little more.

I always loved Javon as a receiver.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Requiem

At least you have that going for you. I got hired, but K-Mart is about ready to go under, so they can't even schedule me hours, and it's too late into the summer vacation (like a month) to be looking for another job. I get to be lazy, get to party - and be the catcher for our men's league softball team who has and never will win a game this year.

It doesn't pay well, but it's a riot.

Anyways, what kind of season do you see Javon having?

I think he'll have 112 catches for 1400 yards and 11 touchdowns.

[RkyMtnThunder]

hmmmm

Get the ball in one of your best player's hands as often as possible to increase the likelyhood of winning games.

I think that could work!



Seriously though - last season Walker was our only threat on offense. I think we have improved enough offensively so far this off season that we (hopefully) dont need to lean on Walker so much.

[400HZ]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

I was looking at the stats for Walker last year and noticed something interesting. Denver is 5-1 when Javon Walker scores a touchdown. They are 4-6 when he does not. We are 1-6 in games where he does not have at least 100 yards of offense.

This correlated more directly than rushing yards, which is usually the real sign of win loss especially for rushing teams. Whether we had over 100 yards rushing or not didn't really matter last year. There were games where we put up 125+ yards on one player on the ground and still lost and we won games where we were held to below that total for ground offense.

This tells me that one of the keys to winning games, at least last year, was making sure that Walker was making plays and being productive. When Walker is dominating or even just making plays consistently the Broncos win. When he is shut down, the Broncos lose.

If we can get Marshall, Hixon (of course), Graham, Rod, Henry and Scheffler to give Walker regular good matchups, he should continue to be very productive and win us a lot of games.

Here's another intesting stat: The Broncos were 9-7 in games where they scored at least 1 point more than their opponents.

Seriously: How does Javon Walker scoring a touchdown count for more than Mike Bell scoring a touchdown? A touchdown is a touchdown.

[Los Broncos]

Get him the ball more.

[Tredici]

Originally Posted by 400HZ

Here's another intesting stat: The Broncos were 9-7 in games where they scored at least 1 point more than their opponents.

Seriously: How does Javon Walker scoring a touchdown count for more than Mike Bell scoring a touchdown? A touchdown is a touchdown.

Perhaps the answer lay in sentence number three of Kaylore's post. Did you get that far?

[broncsyanks]

just wait until that running game gets started-- then you will see numbers

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by 400HZ

Here's another intesting stat: The Broncos were 9-7 in games where they scored at least 1 point more than their opponents.

Seriously: How does Javon Walker scoring a touchdown count for more than Mike Bell scoring a touchdown? A touchdown is a touchdown.

I think you need to go play in the kiddie pool as this is all clearly over your head.

[400HZ]

Originally Posted by Tredici

Perhaps the answer lay in sentence number three of Kaylore's post. Did you get that far?

Ya right, like I have time for that.

[Jens1893]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

I think he'll have 112 catches for 1400 yards and 11 touchdowns.

I think you are a little too optimistic. The overall offensive production will improve, but last season Javon basically was the only player who performed as expected on offense. This season we will (hopefully) have a contribution from the Tight End position from Day 1, a proven and clear cut #1 RB and also some receivers who are gonna get looks and balls thrown their way other than Javon. I will be very hapy if Javon can have another 1,000+ yard, 10+ TD season.

[400HZ]

Jeff Fisher was on TV talking about a similar concent in 2005. He realized that the Titans were like 3-0 when they rushed the ball 30 times or more.

That's flawed logic though. I bet the Broncos will be 5-1 in games where Brandon Marshall catches a touchdown and gets 100 yards too.

What should be said is that the Broncos do better when their offense is effective. Or the Titans win games when their running attack is potent. Like that.

[Requiem]

Kaylore, are you serious with that prediction? Wouldn't that be an NFL record for catches?

[Jens1893]

Originally Posted by Requiem

Kaylore, are you serious with that prediction? Wouldn't that be an NFL record for catches?

Marvin Harrison once had 143.

M Harrison 2002 143
H Moore 1995 123
C Carter 1994 122
C Carter 1995 122
J Rice 1995 122
I Bruce 1995 119
T Holt 2003 117
J Smith 1999 116
M Harrison 1999 115
R Smith 2001 113
S Sharpe 1993 112
J Rice 1994 112
H Ward 2002 112
J Smith 2001 112

[epicSocialism4tw]

Obvioulsy, there are other variables that you have to consider, Charger fan.

I would say that a game that involves at least two of our receivers (any of Walker, Marshall, Graham, Sheffler, Henry, Smith, Stokely, etc) having 1TD and 80+ yard games will virtually guarantee that the Broncos are in a good position to win. That means that both the running game and the passing game are in a situation that lends itself towards the successful execution of much of the playbook. I think that this is true as long as the offense isnt trying to play catch-up most of the time.