Bush Coming To Kansas!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stormontheplains]

GW is coming to Greensburg Kansas on Wednsday to visit the storm damage. I will be on the side of the road to catch a peak of my hero. I will upload pics when I get back from the trip. A bunch of us are going to show our support for the president.

[theAPAOps5]

Thats great. When I was in New Orleans after Katrina to help the airport reopen he came through twice.

PS: Be prepared for this to turn into political crap.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Thats great. When I was in New Orleans after Katrina to help the airport reopen he came through twice.

PS: Be prepared for this to turn into political crap.

Okay, I'll give it a shot.

Would this be the same Bush that has the Kansas National Guard and
over 50% of their equipment tied up over in Iraq. Equipment that is desperately
needed in Kansas for the clean-up efforts. Saw the governor of Kansas
on the news today, and boy is she pissed off about the whole thing.

[Stormontheplains]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Okay, I'll give it a shot.

Would this be the same Bush that has the Kansas National Guard and
over 50% of their equipment tied up over in Iraq. Equipment that is desperately
needed in Kansas for the clean-up efforts. Saw the governor of Kansas
on the news today, and boy is she pissed off about the whole thing.

No, that is not correct. There are enough Tractors, Front End Loaders, Skid Steers, Dump Trucks, to clean up 5 towns. The Governor threw a jab that wasn't necessary, and what you failed to see was her get throttled for that comment by the locals and press. If these were weak people who needed the government to save them the answer would be yes. But my brother, they will be taken care of by everyone here in the state. I have sent 3 trailers there so far, for living until they figure out what is going to happen.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by Stormontheplains

what you failed to see was her get throttled for that comment by the locals and press.

This is true. I did fail to see that. Do you have some articles by the local press?

[theAPAOps5]

See it never fails, mention Bush and the gates are opened.

By the way thats awesome sending the trailers. Part of what I did in New Orleans was check in and set up all sorts of travel trailers that were going to be homes to the Airport staff and families during rebuilding. Some of those things had some sweet stuff in them.

[Spider]

personally I wouldnt walk across the street to see bush or cheney

[atomicbloke]

It should be a day to remember for the hillbillies.

[Crushaholic]

Well, he's going to be in the state to visit the unfortunate tragedy known as Greensburg. I'm sure that he'll spend most of his time in the air surveying the damage and part of the time in conversations with survivors. It's a nice thought showing your support for Bush, but you might not get much of a glimpse of him..

[Blueflame]

It's nice that he can spare a few minutes for a photo-op five days or so after the disaster occurred.

[atomicbloke]

Originally Posted by atomicbloke

It should be a day to remember for the hillbillies.

This was purely a tongue-in-cheek remark.

If it came across as making fun of people struck by the tornado tragedy, I sincerely apologize.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

See it never fails, mention Bush and the gates are opened.

Gee, I wonder why that is?

Of course, whatever the reason, it can't possibly have anything to do with Bush or his record.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by Stormontheplains

GW is coming to Greensburg Kansas on Wednsday to visit the storm damage. I will be on the side of the road to catch a peak of my hero. I will upload pics when I get back from the trip. A bunch of us are going to show our support for the president.

Will you and your friends be required to sign loyalty oaths before being allowed anywhere near his photo op? Bet you are...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The Ecology of Impeachment

The American electorate is looking more and more like the polar bear stranded on a shrinking ice floe--still powerful but with democracy melting out from under our feet. Unlike the polar bear, however, we should be able to analyze our situation and take action. The first thing we have to do is accept that certain familiar features of our habitat, which we have depended on in the past, are just gone.

We now have more media outlets than ever before, but their mission seems to be to drown out any molecule of truth. And our inter-dependent voting and justice systems have been reduced to slivers of their former selves.

For example, as time has gone by, the true significance of the Supreme Court's selection of George W. Bush as president has become more and more painfully clear, in spite of efforts on the part of the media and across the political spectrum to obscure the bald truth: In Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court shamelessly sided with a gang of Republican congressional aides swinging baseball bats who originally shut down the vote count and threw the case into the courts.

Jamin Raskin argued in March, 2001, in an article titled Bandits in Black Robes, that Bush v. Gore is easily the worst Supreme Court decision in history--even worse than Dred Scott, because in the case of Scott, justices could truthfully argue that the unamended 1857 (pre-Civil War) Constitution did regard black people as less than human. It was at least consistent. Not so with Bush v. Gore. Raskin says:

In a slapdash job of constitutional interpretation, the conservatives ravaged four foundational relationships in our constitutional system. It usurped the role of the Florida Supreme Court in interpreting state law. It usurped the role of the American people by halting the counting of ballots in a presidential election and effectively choosing the president for them. It usurped Congress' powers to accept or reject the states' electoral college votes. And it reversed the proper distribution of powers in federal government by having Supreme Court justices appoint the president rather than vice versa.

It's important to remember that this was not a recount in the usual sense. Florida's punch machines produced a number of so-called over-votes and under-votes. These were valid votes, but physical inspection of the ballot was necessary--and feasible. Often the voter's intention was completely clear.

The media had already called the election in GWB's favor, which no doubt gave the Florida GOP legislature, under Jeb Bush, the courage and ass-coverage to declare that they would send electors committed to George W. Bush, no matter what the outcome of the actual vote count.

Agreeing with Jeb and going even further, the Supreme Court used the opinion to remind the American people that the electorate does not really have a constitutional right to vote. The Constitution only mentions electors; the popular vote is just a custom.

Supreme Court justices appointing the president in defiance of the popular vote--in a total repudiation of the right to a popular vote--that's about as activist as you can get. And we already have indications that Bush's appointees to the Court are continuing in the same direction.

Starting off his tenure with the breathtaking gall that would soon become familiar, one of Bush's first initiatives prescribed the remedy for his own theft of office: the Help America Vote Act (HAVA), which required every state in the union to buy electronic vote machines--from highly partisan Republican vendors.

In spite of the crudeness of these power grabs, most of which took place right out in the open, it is only now that we can begin to see how it all came together. In an important article by Steven Rosenfeld and Bob Fitrakis, Network Hosting Attorney Scandal E-Mails Also Hosted Ohio's 2004 Election Results, we not only get more evidence that the GOP hacked electronic voting machines in Ohio in 2004, but we see how this links up with the firing of US District Attorneys:

There is more than ample documentation to show that on Election Night 2004, Ohio's "official" Secretary of State website--which gave the world the presidential election results--was redirected from an Ohio government server to a group of servers that contain scores of Republican web sites, including the secret White House e-mail accounts that have emerged in the scandal surrounding Attorney General Alberto Gonzales's firing of eight federal prosecutors.

Did you get that? The servers the White House used to carry on illegal e-mail correspondence with GOP congressmembers about what they wanted from federal prosecutors--a wish list that included demands for prosecution of non-existent cases of voter identity theft and relief from the legitimate prosecution of Republicans--are the same servers that improperly hosted the 2004 Ohio election results.

Rosenfeld and Fitrakis go on to say:

Privatizing elections and allowing known partisans to run a key presidential vote count is troubling enough. But the reason Congress must investigate these high-tech ties is there is abundant evidence that Republicans could have used this computing network to delay announcing the winner of Ohio's 2004 election while tinkering with the results.

I hope with all my heart that Congress heeds Rosenfeld and Fitrakis's call for investigations into these servers.

It seems clear that as the electorate adapted and began to clean out partisan secretaries of state like Kenneth Blackwell, Karl Rove started maneuvering to put corrupt US district attorneys in place who would play a similar role in giving the GOP an illegal electoral edge.

It is very bitter to lose a tight election, particularly to right-wing authoritarians. But those of us who respect democracy tend to suck it up. We try, as the Honorable Justice Scalia suggested not too long ago, to "get over it." We work to find a better candidate, we register new voters, we march. We even accept the winners' right to select Supreme Court justices and appellate judges who will be around long after the victors are out of office.

But not when the "winners" never won. Not when the system is rigged. Not when the voting machines are sending data to the RNC to manipulate. Not when US attorneys are partisans.

Nor does the 2006 election prove that we've restored a meaningful connection between government and the will of the people. All it proves is that Democrats were able to overcome pervasive vote fraud with a sufficiently large national majority and a last-minute surge. That's not exactly democracy.

Furthermore, accepting any electoral victory as our only redress for eight years of illegal leadership only legitimizes BushCo's multiple, layered, ongoing crimes against the Constitution, humanity, and the planet we live on.

That's why it isn't enough for Democratic candidates simply to campaign for office; they have to lead. John Edwards has done that by refusing to debate at Fox-sponsored forums and by coming out against electronic touchscreen voting machines--the latter being of particular importance, given that congressional Dems still don't understand the critical distinction between a paper trail and a paper ballot.

Mike Gravel did it in a recent debate by telling the truth about Iraq.

But most of all, Dennis Kucinich is giving the people a voice by submitting articles of impeachment against Dick Cheney.

The push for impeachment acknowledges two simple truths: we can't wait for 2008, nor can we live with BushCo's legacy. That is to say, we must not only remove GWB, but we must remove all the devices and stratagems his administration has used to subvert the Constitution including: signing statements and the concept of the unitary executive; the abrogation of the Geneva conventions, the concept of enemy combatants, extraordinary rendition, and Guantanamo; pre-emptive military attacks; warrantless spying on citizens; the unlabeled exchange of government propaganda for news; and much more.

These illegal maneuvers should not be available to future presidents of any party. Just as SCOTUS explicitly said that their ruling in Bush v. Gore could not be construed as a precedent, so the entire Bush presidency must be stripped of its power to set precedent--and nothing would go further toward that goal than impeachment.

Impeachment would also send a powerful warning to the Roberts' Court that they, too, serve at the pleasure of the people.

Impeachment is the people's powerful roar.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/7305

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

Will you and your friends be required to sign loyalty oaths before being allowed anywhere near his photo op? Bet you are...

C'mon? Quite entertaining actually, please continue on...I'm up for a laugh or two...dman

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by defenseman

C'mon? Quite entertaining actually, please continue on...I'm up for a laugh or two...dman

Why is this FACT so entertaining to you. You and I both know he "hand picks" his audiences. Wouldn't want any "negative vibes" near the "failure" AKA Bush!

[Rohirrim]

There is a report that Cheney has linked that tornado to Bin Laden. He just sent Dubya out to investigate.

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

There is a report that Cheney has linked that tornado to Bin Laden. He just sent Dubya out to investigate.

I thought Cheney was the Tornado in human form, you know, no clear direction and ****s up everything!

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Why is this FACT so entertaining to you. You and I both know he "hand picks" his audiences. Wouldn't want any "negative vibes" near the "failure" AKA Bush!

And the dems don't? Sure they do, they all do..dman

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by defenseman

And the dems don't? Sure they do, they all do..dman

.....Proof is in the pudding, everything else is just conjecture! We know for a fact the repukes had "non kool aid drinkers" ejected from town hall meetings and appearances by his highness!
Wouldn't want the "dingleberry" to face uncomfortable questions or comments!

[Spider]

Originally Posted by defenseman

C'mon? Quite entertaining actually, please continue on...I'm up for a laugh or two...dman

, Bush was able to get People to sign loyalty oaths before ..........no **** chet

[Stormontheplains]

You guys are making me sick with your comments. Your lack of sincerity when lives have been lost, and those living with the pain of rebuilding their life. All of you support the terrorist more than the victim's because were a red state that supports bush. Just so you know that town has buried a soldier in the last year, so the war has impacted them. Instead of running your mouths your jokers out to take a couple days off from work, buy some work gloves, and come help with the clean up. I know you would learn alot from a hillbilly.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by defenseman

And the dems don't? Sure they do, they all do..dman

Name one ?

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Okay, I'll give it a shot.

Would this be the same Bush that has the Kansas National Guard and
over 50% of their equipment tied up over in Iraq. Equipment that is desperately
needed in Kansas for the clean-up efforts. Saw the governor of Kansas
on the news today, and boy is she pissed off about the whole thing.

Yep and later was called on her BS as 88% of the KS national guard is......wait for it...........in KS.

She needs to run home and wash the egg off her face before it drys.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Stormontheplains

You guys are making me sick with your comments. Your lack of sincerity when lives have been lost, and those living with the pain of rebuilding their life. All of you support the terrorist more than the victim's because were a red state that supports bush. Just so you know that town has buried a soldier in the last year, so the war has impacted them. Instead of running your mouths your jokers out to take a couple days off from work, buy some work gloves, and come help with the clean up. I know you would learn alot from a hillbilly.

strait shooting here , it isnt the disaster , it is Bush , last time I saw people react to presidents in this fashion was Nixon and Carter , A meteor could hit , during either ones presidency , and they could show up and people would have nothing but negative to say ......... Hell Nixon couldnt even go to the Lincoln monument , now is this peoples fault ? or the fault of the Dick head that screwed everyone and everything .........