I can't stand the Patriot nut-hugging any longer !! - The Orange Mane

55CrushEm · 05-01-2007, 12:10 PM

I'm going crazy here in Mass.

Everyone in my office is going on and on about how great Tom Brady is becuase he (gasp) restructured his contract to get Randy Moss in town.

"Isn't he just the best?"
"Man, there is not a better TEAM player in the league than Brady!"

I'm sick of it.

I tried explaining to a few intelligent people that contract restructurings are not at all uncommon.....and that it usually just means that the player took his salary upfront and relabeled it as "signing bonus"......and that Champ and Javon did restructures this year as well.

Highly paid players do this alot to help the cap situation of their teams......

But BRADY is special......

MechanicalBull · 05-01-2007, 12:14 PM

Hey I guess it could be worse. Id rather at least hear some football talk instead of being here in NY and its Yankee this and Yankee that all year long.

Los Broncos · 05-01-2007, 12:17 PM

Tom is a good QB, but they need to ease off of his nuts a little.

Willynowei · 05-01-2007, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

I'm going crazy here in Mass.

Everyone in my office is going on and on about how great Tom Brady is becuase he (gasp) restructured his contract to get Randy Moss in town.

"Isn't he just the best?"
"Man, there is not a better TEAM player in the league than Brady!"

I'm sick of it.

I tried explaining to a few intelligent people that contract restructurings are not at all uncommon.....and that it usually just means that the player took his salary upfront and relabeled it as "signing bonus"......and that Champ and Javon did restructures this year as well.

Highly paid players do this alot to help the cap situation of their teams......

But BRADY is special......

Sorry could you repeat that? my eyes are stuck on your avatar.

kamakazi_kal · 05-01-2007, 12:24 PM

i dont know if i hate manning or brady more...... but, with this thread im sure some of the brady fan club will show up and start shootin off.

kal: "Man I can't stand brady's mug"

pat fan: "You are jealous, man brady is the greatest to ever play the game. I was just at a autograph session and he is just as cool in real life as he is on the field"

kal: "

h, hey man I think you have a pube stuck in you teeth"

Paladin · 05-01-2007, 12:27 PM

Do you think he inhales?

Circle Orange · 05-01-2007, 12:37 PM

What I don't get is why so many people keep calling them a dynasty. It's not like they're still winning super bowls, and every year it goes like this:
They won three out of the last four.
They won three out of the last five.
They won three out of the last six.
and so forth and so on.

You'd think no organization ever won super bowls before. Besides, they were the least impressive so called 'dynasty' you ever saw. Yet we get hammered about how they're a model organization. Whatever, everyone has their 'time' and then it moves on to another team. Seems like these sports heads are the ones who can't 'move on.'

55CrushEm · 05-01-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Circle Orange

What I don't get is why so many people keep calling them a dynasty. It's not like they're still winning super bowls, and every year it goes like this:
They won three out of the last four.
They won three out of the last five.
They won three out of the last six.
and so forth and so on.

You'd think no organization ever won super bowls before. Besides, they were the least impressive so called 'dynasty' you ever saw. Yet we get hammered about how they're a model organization. Whatever, everyone has their 'time' and then it moves on to another team. Seems like these sports heads are the ones who can't 'move on.'

Exactly......SIX teams have won back-to-back Superbowls.....but from the way the media talks...you'd think that New England was the only one.

Circle Orange · 05-01-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

Exactly......SIX teams have won back-to-back Superbowls.....but from the way the media talks...you'd think that New England was the only one.

that's the funny thing...they DIDN'T win back to back...there was a year 'skip' inbetween, so they couldn't sustain it either! The men in orange were the last...

55CrushEm · 05-01-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Circle Orange

that's the funny thing...they DIDN'T win back to back...there was a year 'skip' inbetween, so they couldn't sustain it either! The men in orange were the last...

Yeah they did win back to back.....in 2003 (vs. Carolina) and in 2004 (vs. Philly).....they also won in 2001.

PatsWin2002 · 05-01-2007, 12:48 PM

Brady is a special player. And you live in New England...what did you expect?

You're making it sound like the media here is saying Broncos players aren't special.....and it's some kind of personal effront to you.

MechanicalBull · 05-01-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

Exactly......SIX teams have won back-to-back Superbowls.....but from the way the media talks...you'd think that New England was the only one.

I do agree with that statement and it wasn't like 30 yrs ago when the last team(Denver) won back to back championships. Just in recent history from the Superbowl in 1997 to 2007 three teams(GB, Den, NE) have gone to back to back superbowls and two of them have won back to back.

55CrushEm · 05-01-2007, 12:52 PM

Actually SEVEN teams.....Back to back champs are ......

Green Bay (SB 1,2...1966, 1967)
Miami (SB 7,8...1972, 1973)
Pittsburgh(2 times) (SB 9,10...1974,1975 & SB 13,14...1978,1979)
San Francisco (SB 23,24...1988,1989)
Dallas (SB 27,28...1992,1993)
Denver (SB 32,33...1997,1998)
New England (SB 38,39...2003, 2004)

My confusion was that only 6 COACHES have won back-to-back.....because the San Fran repeat was Walsh, then Seifert.....

BroncoInferno · 05-01-2007, 12:53 PM

I'm not sure what was so epic about NEs offseason. Thomas was obviously a good signing, but what was so great about the rest of the moves? Stallworth had all of 36 catches last season and has been hampered by injuries his entire career, Kelly Washington has talent but also has struggled with injuries and has done little of note in his career, Kyle Brady is almost eligible for social security, Moss is a classic cancer...I mean, what was so epic about this offseason? One very good signing, and the rest are injury prone, old, cancerous, or some combination of the three.

55CrushEm · 05-01-2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

Brady is a special player. And you live in New England...what did you expect?

You're making it sound like the media here is saying Broncos players aren't special.....and it's some kind of personal effront to you.

No....what I'm saying is that the media and people in my office are making it sound as if Brady is special (even MORE so).....BECAUSE he did this restructure......my point was that this action does NOT make him special.....

55CrushEm · 05-01-2007, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

I'm not sure what was so epic about NEs offseason. Thomas was obviously a good signing, but what was so great about the rest of the moves? Stallworth had all of 36 catches last season and has been hampered by injuries his entire career, Kelly Washington has talent but also has struggled with injuries and has done little of note in his career, Kyle Brady is almost eligible for social security, Moss is a classic cancer...I mean, what was so epic about this offseason? One very good signing, and the rest are injury prone, old, cancerous, or some combination of the three.

My thoughts exactly.....but this is classic east coast media bias.

If you look at all transactions.....it's easy to argue that DENVER could have had the most productive offseason of ANY team.....but you don't get all of the hoopla over it because after all.....they think that Denver is just some podunk midwest town in the hills.....

bronco militia · 05-01-2007, 12:58 PM

move and/or turn off espn

Popcorn Sutton · 05-01-2007, 01:00 PM

Rod Smith
Champ Bailey

Los Broncos · 05-01-2007, 03:28 PM

Does anyone think NE is the team to beat this year?

Barry Ramey · 05-01-2007, 03:32 PM

Funny, some of these same people are slamming the Broncos for drafting "character concerns" yet praising the Pats for drafting Meriweather and trading for Moss.

Atwater His Ass · 05-01-2007, 03:41 PM

One of the main reasons I don't watch ESPN anymore is because of the Brady/Manning knob slob fest.

I couldn't imagine the pain of being a Bronco fan living on the east coast.

ZONA · 05-01-2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

I'm not sure what was so epic about NEs offseason. Thomas was obviously a good signing, but what was so great about the rest of the moves? Stallworth had all of 36 catches last season and has been hampered by injuries his entire career, Kelly Washington has talent but also has struggled with injuries and has done little of note in his career, Kyle Brady is almost eligible for social security, Moss is a classic cancer...I mean, what was so epic about this offseason? One very good signing, and the rest are injury prone, old, cancerous, or some combination of the three.

I hear ya - I have been saying the same thing on other threads. Seems like there are a lot of dudes here at the mane that are nut hugging too much on that Pats signing of Moss. It's like the past 4 years of his career don't count anymore and they think he's gonna be brilliant and he and Brady are gonna be best friends, and hang out together and everybody is gonna be a big happy family over in NE. Gimme a break.

pdvd23 · 05-01-2007, 04:24 PM

I hate this Patriots love affair. if they are so good and always making the best moves how is it that the rat king always finds a way to b**** slap them every year.

Garcia Bronco · 05-01-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynchmob72

Does anyone think NE is the team to beat this year?

Only when we play them

HorseHead · 05-01-2007, 04:38 PM

Foxborough(AP):Updating earlier reports first leaked by the Boston Globe. Tom Brady took a dump today. It was the most beautiful dump ever created by a human being. It was a dump that only a 3 time Super Bowl winning could have created. It was a most glorius example of how a dump should be created. Patriots Coach Bill Belicheck confirmed the dump, saying he too witnessed the dump. Belicheck soon left the Gillette Stadioum lavratory to go bang some guy's wife.

05-01-2007, 12:10 PM	#1
55CrushEm Dynamic Duo Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of Boston, MA Posts: 5,592 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quanterus Smith	I can't stand the Patriot nut-hugging any longer !! I'm going crazy here in Mass. Everyone in my office is going on and on about how great Tom Brady is becuase he (gasp) restructured his contract to get Randy Moss in town. "Isn't he just the best?" "Man, there is not a better TEAM player in the league than Brady!" I'm sick of it. I tried explaining to a few intelligent people that contract restructurings are not at all uncommon.....and that it usually just means that the player took his salary upfront and relabeled it as "signing bonus"......and that Champ and Javon did restructures this year as well. Highly paid players do this alot to help the cap situation of their teams...... But BRADY is special......

05-01-2007, 12:24 PM	#5
kamakazi_kal I have a Teb0ner. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,165 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mayhem Miller	i dont know if i hate manning or brady more...... but, with this thread im sure some of the brady fan club will show up and start shootin off. kal: "Man I can't stand brady's mug" pat fan: "You are jealous, man brady is the greatest to ever play the game. I was just at a autograph session and he is just as cool in real life as he is on the field" kal: "h, hey man I think you have a pube stuck in you teeth"

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05-01-2007, 12:14 PM	#2
MechanicalBull Interesting Times Ahead Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,825	Hey I guess it could be worse. Id rather at least hear some football talk instead of being here in NY and its Yankee this and Yankee that all year long.

05-01-2007, 12:17 PM	#3
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Tom is a good QB, but they need to ease off of his nuts a little.

05-01-2007, 12:27 PM	#6
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	Do you think he inhales?

05-01-2007, 12:37 PM	#7
Circle Orange SPOT ON. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Styxx, D.C. Posts: 3,956	What I don't get is why so many people keep calling them a dynasty. It's not like they're still winning super bowls, and every year it goes like this: They won three out of the last four. They won three out of the last five. They won three out of the last six. and so forth and so on. You'd think no organization ever won super bowls before. Besides, they were the least impressive so called 'dynasty' you ever saw. Yet we get hammered about how they're a model organization. Whatever, everyone has their 'time' and then it moves on to another team. Seems like these sports heads are the ones who can't 'move on.'

05-01-2007, 12:48 PM	#11
PatsWin2002 Giggity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South of Boston Posts: 6,270	Brady is a special player. And you live in New England...what did you expect? You're making it sound like the media here is saying Broncos players aren't special.....and it's some kind of personal effront to you.

05-01-2007, 12:52 PM	#13
55CrushEm Dynamic Duo Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of Boston, MA Posts: 5,592 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quanterus Smith	Actually SEVEN teams.....Back to back champs are ...... Green Bay (SB 1,2...1966, 1967) Miami (SB 7,8...1972, 1973) Pittsburgh(2 times) (SB 9,10...1974,1975 & SB 13,14...1978,1979) San Francisco (SB 23,24...1988,1989) Dallas (SB 27,28...1992,1993) Denver (SB 32,33...1997,1998) New England (SB 38,39...2003, 2004) My confusion was that only 6 COACHES have won back-to-back.....because the San Fran repeat was Walsh, then Seifert.....

05-01-2007, 12:53 PM	#14
BroncoInferno Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 13,003	I'm not sure what was so epic about NEs offseason. Thomas was obviously a good signing, but what was so great about the rest of the moves? Stallworth had all of 36 catches last season and has been hampered by injuries his entire career, Kelly Washington has talent but also has struggled with injuries and has done little of note in his career, Kyle Brady is almost eligible for social security, Moss is a classic cancer...I mean, what was so epic about this offseason? One very good signing, and the rest are injury prone, old, cancerous, or some combination of the three.

05-01-2007, 12:58 PM	#17
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	move and/or turn off espn

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Popcorn Sutton Ring of Famer Don't mess with Popcorn Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Who cares Posts: 3,757 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jacob Tamme	Rod Smith Champ Bailey

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Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Does anyone think NE is the team to beat this year?

05-01-2007, 03:32 PM	#20
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	Funny, some of these same people are slamming the Broncos for drafting "character concerns" yet praising the Pats for drafting Meriweather and trading for Moss.

05-01-2007, 03:41 PM	#21
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,364 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	One of the main reasons I don't watch ESPN anymore is because of the Brady/Manning knob slob fest. I couldn't imagine the pain of being a Bronco fan living on the east coast.

05-01-2007, 04:24 PM	#23
pdvd23 The champ is here! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 103	I hate this Patriots love affair. if they are so good and always making the best moves how is it that the rat king always finds a way to b**** slap them every year.

05-01-2007, 04:38 PM	#25
HorseHead Ring of Famer Stay thirsty my friends.. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,212 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bay Bay	Foxborough(AP):Updating earlier reports first leaked by the Boston Globe. Tom Brady took a dump today. It was the most beautiful dump ever created by a human being. It was a dump that only a 3 time Super Bowl winning could have created. It was a most glorius example of how a dump should be created. Patriots Coach Bill Belicheck confirmed the dump, saying he too witnessed the dump. Belicheck soon left the Gillette Stadioum lavratory to go bang some guy's wife.