It's official! Joe Gibbs is senile - The Orange Mane

Atlas · 04-25-2007, 09:55 PM

This article is friggin hilarious. These guys don't have a clue.

Gibbs doubts any draftee could start immediately for his 5-11 team
By JOSEPH WHITE
AP Sports Writer
ASHBURN, Va. (AP) — It takes a lot of audacity for a coach of a 5-11 team to say what Joe Gibbs said Tuesday.

The Hall of Fame coach claimed the Washington Redskins are so stacked that it would be hard for any player selected in this weekend's NFL draft to contend immediately for a starting job.

"You'd love to have a guy who can make an immediate impact," Gibbs said. "But to be quite truthful, you look at our football team, where could a player step in here right now and say: 'I'm taking over'? Where is that? That makes us feel good. I don't feel panicked that we have to take any one thing. It's hard to say that somebody would just step into any position right now."

So Calvin Johnson or LaRon Landry — they'd be riding the pine if they came to Washington? What about a player the Redskins could really use, a defensive lineman such as Jamaal Anderson, Gaines Adams, Amobi Okoye or Alan Branch? Didn't this team make only two modest additions, London Fletcher and Fred Smoot, during the recent free agency period in an attempt to improve the worst defense in the NFC?

Still, Gibbs maintained the Redskins, should they hang on to the No. 6 overall pick, will aim for a player, regardless of position, who has the long-term chance to make Pro Bowls "even though it may be crowded where he initially comes in."

With that kind of philosophy, there's no telling what the Redskins will do.
But that's their M.O. The Redskins of Gibbs and owner Dan Snyder are aggressive and unpredictable. Their usual credo: overspend for the big package and live with the consequences. Snyder has become so redundant that no one asked him a question at last year's predraft press briefing, even though it's one of the rare times he appears in a news conference setting. This year, he was asked if he has considered making himself even more irrelevant — by hiring a general manager.

"No," Snyder said. "I think that everyone was disappointed. It was a rough season on us. A lot of things took place that we think we're making a lot of progress to put us in the right direction, but they didn't stem from our structure or one particular thing. It just ended up being a tough season."
So the same front office structure is in place that led last year to Gibbs' worst season in 15 years as a head coach and left the Redskins this year without picks in the second, third and fourth rounds — the result of overzealous trades that landed undistinguished 2006 performers Rocky McIntosh, Brandon Lloyd and T.J. Duckett. After such a year, there was a groundswell of calls for Washington to fill its GM vacuum and hire a strong personality who could say no to Snyder and Gibbs. But the coach quickly quashed the notion less than 48 hours after the season was over.

The Redskins could use an impact defensive lineman and are thin at several positions. Their approach should seem straightforward, trading down to get more picks — but not so far down that they miss out on a stud defensive lineman. If they can't trade down, take one of the top linemen available: Anderson (Arkansas), Adams (Clemson), Okoye (Louisville) or Branch (Michigan).

But life is never that simple with Snyder, Gibbs and the Redskins. At one point they were talking to the Chicago Bears about trading draft picks to acquire unhappy linebacker Lance Briggs. Denver cornerback Dre' Bly's name emerged in trade talks. There's even some scuttlebutt the Redskins might make another of their signature moves and vault into the top two so they can take receiver Johnson (Georgia Tech) at the expense of more future picks.
Snyder, Gibbs and vice president for football operations Vinny Cerrato did nothing to quash such speculation. Snyder gave a glowing review of Johnson, and Gibbs said: "We've talked about moving up, we've talked about moving back, and we've talked about staying right where we are."

When asked if he was comfortable with his defensive line, Gibbs cited 2006 low-round draft picks Anthony Montgomery and Cedric Golston. Both showed some potential last year as rookies, but it's hard to imagine either holding a spot ahead of a blue-chipper like Okoye.

The Redskins' braintrust was clear about one thing Tuesday: The team will continue to be aggressive when going after players, whatever the outcome.
"The philosophy's always been the same," Cerrato said. "Identify what you want, and then go get it."

Clockwork Orange · 04-25-2007, 09:57 PM

Reminds me of Isiah Thomas recently calling his Knicks team, "the best 33-49 team ever assembled."

Atwater His Ass · 04-25-2007, 10:02 PM

best 5-11 team EVER

MechanicalBull · 04-25-2007, 10:03 PM

Definitley Randle El or Brandon Llyod would start over Calvin Johnson of course. No doubt about it.

Pendejo · 04-25-2007, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Reminds me of Isiah Thomas recently calling his Knicks team, "the best 33-49 team ever assembled."

Can you think of a better 33-49 team?

Hercules Rockefeller · 04-26-2007, 08:29 AM

Guess we can't blame Skins fans for some of their idiotic statements about how great the team is if their coach is making similar comments.

-Slap- · 04-26-2007, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Guess we can't blame Skins fans for some of their idiotic statements about how great the team is if their coach is making similar comments.

Their fans aren't required to jerk off a petulant multi-millionaire to keep their jobs.

Popcorn Sutton · 04-26-2007, 08:44 AM

Aren't those PFT guys Skins fans?

Hogan11 · 04-26-2007, 10:33 AM

Watch it Atlas...You can never say anything bad about Joe Gibbs or you'll have cartoon man in here saying you don't know anything about football at all.

jmz313 · 04-26-2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlas

"The philosophy's always been the same," Cerrato said. "Identify what you want, and then go get it."

Thier "philosophy" is their problem. They should start Identifying what they NEED and then go get it. I'm glad they'll continue to stink.

Clockwork Orange · 05-02-2007, 01:35 PM

Further proof.

Redskins | Gibbs is comfortable with defensive line
Tue, 1 May 2007 19:15:35 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs is comfortable with the team's defensive line. Gibbs said the team did not feel any sense of urgency to add defensive lineman during the draft, and hopes better talent in the secondary will help improve the team's sack totals. "When you look at the overall structure of the defense, what we felt hurt us last year with the pass rush, a lot of it was the coverage. That was the problem for us. With the guys we added at corner [in free agency] and now what we added at safety, hopefully what we can do is play much tighter coverage and much better coverage. It's going to force [quarterbacks] to hold the ball," Gibbs said.

Remember, the Redskins were dead last in the NFL in sacks last year with 19. For as much as we all complained about the Broncos D-line, the Redskins D-line made them look like The Fearsome Foursome by comparison.

Bladerunner · 05-02-2007, 01:48 PM

meh...time will tell...

the PFT guy Florio is a Steelers Fan as far as I can tell

Arkie · 05-02-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendejo

Can you think of a better 33-49 team?

I think the 91 Cavs were a tad better.

Dukes · 05-02-2007, 02:41 PM

Dan Snyder runs Washington like a Fantasy Team. What a joke.

Grover · 05-02-2007, 02:45 PM

Gotta love it. If he's happy with all his guys that produced a losing record,
then the blame goes to the coaching staff

?

What's he saying? I suck?

Killericon · 05-02-2007, 02:59 PM

Laron Landry's going to have a tough time against...Troy Vincent?

Cool Breeze · 05-02-2007, 04:03 PM

"Identify what you want, and then go get it."

They must identify with being losers - cause they're very good at it

MechanicalBull · 05-02-2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killericon

Laron Landry's going to have a tough time against...Troy Vincent?

Is Vincent still on the team? I thought he retired or something along those lines.

elsid13 · 05-02-2007, 05:15 PM

Vincent was cut, the other safety is Prioleau

Crushaholic · 05-02-2007, 05:22 PM

Gibbs must be having flashbacks to the Dexter Manley days...

Taco John · 05-02-2007, 05:30 PM

I am personally an admirer of Joe Gibbs, particularly what he did in his previous stint with the Redskins. But this doesn't make any sense. I have to believe that he's trying to motivate Landry to get into the Redskins training program ASAP.

elsid13 · 05-02-2007, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

I am personally an admirer of Joe Gibbs, particularly what he did in his previous stint with the Redskins. But this doesn't make any sense. I have to believe that he's trying to motivate Landry to get into the Redskins training program ASAP.

'

Keep dreaming. The second Gibbs era has been and is a disaster.

Gcver2ver3 · 05-02-2007, 05:37 PM

No one in the draft is worthy of starting on his team?

Sounds like somebody needs to fire his scouting department........

CoopDawg · 05-02-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcver2ver3

No one in the draft is worthy of starting on his team?

Sounds like somebody needs to fire his scouting department........

Everyone knows that the best way to build a winning franchise is by overpaying for average players. I mean who needs a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round draft pick for the next ten years?

Circle Orange · 05-02-2007, 10:15 PM

Another year of Vinnie "wildeye" Cerrato jokes, and more snipes at Joe "I'm just a lovable coot" Gibbs. Not to mention Dan "I'm rich so I do what I want" Snyder.

Whoopie cushions, seltzer water and helicopter hats will sell at Fed Ex for Suckers, starting at $49.99 a set.

04-25-2007, 09:55 PM	#1
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	It's official! Joe Gibbs is senile This article is friggin hilarious. These guys don't have a clue. Gibbs doubts any draftee could start immediately for his 5-11 team By JOSEPH WHITE AP Sports Writer ASHBURN, Va. (AP) — It takes a lot of audacity for a coach of a 5-11 team to say what Joe Gibbs said Tuesday. The Hall of Fame coach claimed the Washington Redskins are so stacked that it would be hard for any player selected in this weekend's NFL draft to contend immediately for a starting job. "You'd love to have a guy who can make an immediate impact," Gibbs said. "But to be quite truthful, you look at our football team, where could a player step in here right now and say: 'I'm taking over'? Where is that? That makes us feel good. I don't feel panicked that we have to take any one thing. It's hard to say that somebody would just step into any position right now." So Calvin Johnson or LaRon Landry — they'd be riding the pine if they came to Washington? What about a player the Redskins could really use, a defensive lineman such as Jamaal Anderson, Gaines Adams, Amobi Okoye or Alan Branch? Didn't this team make only two modest additions, London Fletcher and Fred Smoot, during the recent free agency period in an attempt to improve the worst defense in the NFC? Still, Gibbs maintained the Redskins, should they hang on to the No. 6 overall pick, will aim for a player, regardless of position, who has the long-term chance to make Pro Bowls "even though it may be crowded where he initially comes in." With that kind of philosophy, there's no telling what the Redskins will do. But that's their M.O. The Redskins of Gibbs and owner Dan Snyder are aggressive and unpredictable. Their usual credo: overspend for the big package and live with the consequences. Snyder has become so redundant that no one asked him a question at last year's predraft press briefing, even though it's one of the rare times he appears in a news conference setting. This year, he was asked if he has considered making himself even more irrelevant — by hiring a general manager. "No," Snyder said. "I think that everyone was disappointed. It was a rough season on us. A lot of things took place that we think we're making a lot of progress to put us in the right direction, but they didn't stem from our structure or one particular thing. It just ended up being a tough season." So the same front office structure is in place that led last year to Gibbs' worst season in 15 years as a head coach and left the Redskins this year without picks in the second, third and fourth rounds — the result of overzealous trades that landed undistinguished 2006 performers Rocky McIntosh, Brandon Lloyd and T.J. Duckett. After such a year, there was a groundswell of calls for Washington to fill its GM vacuum and hire a strong personality who could say no to Snyder and Gibbs. But the coach quickly quashed the notion less than 48 hours after the season was over. The Redskins could use an impact defensive lineman and are thin at several positions. Their approach should seem straightforward, trading down to get more picks — but not so far down that they miss out on a stud defensive lineman. If they can't trade down, take one of the top linemen available: Anderson (Arkansas), Adams (Clemson), Okoye (Louisville) or Branch (Michigan). But life is never that simple with Snyder, Gibbs and the Redskins. At one point they were talking to the Chicago Bears about trading draft picks to acquire unhappy linebacker Lance Briggs. Denver cornerback Dre' Bly's name emerged in trade talks. There's even some scuttlebutt the Redskins might make another of their signature moves and vault into the top two so they can take receiver Johnson (Georgia Tech) at the expense of more future picks. Snyder, Gibbs and vice president for football operations Vinny Cerrato did nothing to quash such speculation. Snyder gave a glowing review of Johnson, and Gibbs said: "We've talked about moving up, we've talked about moving back, and we've talked about staying right where we are." When asked if he was comfortable with his defensive line, Gibbs cited 2006 low-round draft picks Anthony Montgomery and Cedric Golston. Both showed some potential last year as rookies, but it's hard to imagine either holding a spot ahead of a blue-chipper like Okoye. The Redskins' braintrust was clear about one thing Tuesday: The team will continue to be aggressive when going after players, whatever the outcome. "The philosophy's always been the same," Cerrato said. "Identify what you want, and then go get it."

05-02-2007, 02:45 PM	#15
Grover Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 91	Gotta love it. If he's happy with all his guys that produced a losing record, then the blame goes to the coaching staff? What's he saying? I suck?

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04-25-2007, 09:57 PM	#2
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Reminds me of Isiah Thomas recently calling his Knicks team, "the best 33-49 team ever assembled."

04-25-2007, 10:02 PM	#3
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,361 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	best 5-11 team EVER

04-25-2007, 10:03 PM	#4
MechanicalBull Interesting Times Ahead Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,825	Definitley Randle El or Brandon Llyod would start over Calvin Johnson of course. No doubt about it.

04-26-2007, 08:29 AM	#6
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Guess we can't blame Skins fans for some of their idiotic statements about how great the team is if their coach is making similar comments.

04-26-2007, 08:44 AM	#8
Popcorn Sutton Ring of Famer Don't mess with Popcorn Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Who cares Posts: 3,757 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jacob Tamme	Aren't those PFT guys Skins fans?

04-26-2007, 10:33 AM	#9
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	Watch it Atlas...You can never say anything bad about Joe Gibbs or you'll have cartoon man in here saying you don't know anything about football at all.

05-02-2007, 01:35 PM	#11
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Further proof. Redskins \| Gibbs is comfortable with defensive line Tue, 1 May 2007 19:15:35 -0700 Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs is comfortable with the team's defensive line. Gibbs said the team did not feel any sense of urgency to add defensive lineman during the draft, and hopes better talent in the secondary will help improve the team's sack totals. "When you look at the overall structure of the defense, what we felt hurt us last year with the pass rush, a lot of it was the coverage. That was the problem for us. With the guys we added at corner [in free agency] and now what we added at safety, hopefully what we can do is play much tighter coverage and much better coverage. It's going to force [quarterbacks] to hold the ball," Gibbs said. Remember, the Redskins were dead last in the NFL in sacks last year with 19. For as much as we all complained about the Broncos D-line, the Redskins D-line made them look like The Fearsome Foursome by comparison.

05-02-2007, 01:48 PM	#12
Bladerunner Ring of Famer ...Two weeks from everywhere! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,125 Adopt-a-Bronco: Willis McGahee	meh...time will tell... the PFT guy Florio is a Steelers Fan as far as I can tell

05-02-2007, 02:41 PM	#14
Dukes Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,317	Dan Snyder runs Washington like a Fantasy Team. What a joke.

05-02-2007, 02:59 PM	#16
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	Laron Landry's going to have a tough time against...Troy Vincent?

05-02-2007, 04:03 PM	#17
Cool Breeze Ring of Famer Broncos Rock! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south of town Posts: 1,221	"Identify what you want, and then go get it." They must identify with being losers - cause they're very good at it

05-02-2007, 05:15 PM	#19
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,087	Vincent was cut, the other safety is Prioleau

05-02-2007, 05:22 PM	#20
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	Gibbs must be having flashbacks to the Dexter Manley days...

05-02-2007, 05:30 PM	#21
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,704 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I am personally an admirer of Joe Gibbs, particularly what he did in his previous stint with the Redskins. But this doesn't make any sense. I have to believe that he's trying to motivate Landry to get into the Redskins training program ASAP.

05-02-2007, 05:37 PM	#23
Gcver2ver3 Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,629 Adopt-a-Bronco: not Lance Ball	No one in the draft is worthy of starting on his team? Sounds like somebody needs to fire his scouting department........

05-02-2007, 10:15 PM	#25
Circle Orange SPOT ON. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Styxx, D.C. Posts: 3,956	Another year of Vinnie "wildeye" Cerrato jokes, and more snipes at Joe "I'm just a lovable coot" Gibbs. Not to mention Dan "I'm rich so I do what I want" Snyder. Whoopie cushions, seltzer water and helicopter hats will sell at Fed Ex for Suckers, starting at $49.99 a set.