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For pattytoo; Bush Timeline of Lies for His Iraqi Grudge Match
Complete with all relevant links. Of course, I'm sure he'll recoil in denial for one reason or another.
------------------------------------------------------------- January 27, 1998 Ahmed Chalabi hosts in his London apartment a liaison of the UN weapons inspectors working in Iraq. The liaison, Scott Ritter, explains the limits of the inspectors' Iraq intelligence. "I should have asked him what he could give me," Ritter... Tags: Chalabi, FALSE INTEL, WMD November, 1999 Iraqi defector "Curveball" enters Munich seeking political asylum. A convicted sex offender and low-level engineer later shown to be a fabricator, he will become one of the most important informants on Saddam Hussein's suspected weapons of mass destruction and the... Tags: Curveball, FALSE INTEL, German Intelligence January, 2000 to September, 2001 Curveball is debriefed by German intelligence. His handlers will later tell the the Los Angeles Times that his information was "often vague, mostly secondhand and impossible to confirm." One senior official adds, "This was not substantial evidence.... We made clear... Tags: Curveball, FALSE INTEL, German Intelligence, WMD April 9, 2001 Mohammad Atta allegedly meets with senior Iraqi intelligence officials at the Iraqi embassy in Prague. The 9/11 Report (Section 7) will later debunk this claim: "The FBI has gathered evidence indicating that Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 4... Tags: Atta, Cheney, DOJ/FBI, FALSE INTEL, TRUE INTEL April 10, 2001 A report containing research provided by a CIA analyst known only as Joe reaches top Bush administration officials. It claims that aluminum tubes being sought by Iraq are meant for uranium centrifuges. The assessment is immediately challenged by the Energy... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, CIA, DOE, FALSE INTEL, TRUE INTEL, WMD September, 2001 Iraqi defector Curveball, granted asylum in Germany, ceases cooperating with German intelligence officials. The CIA assures the Germans that they have other sources that corroborate Curveball's claims that Iraq has at least seven mobile factories brewing biological poisons. The reality... Tags: Chalabi, CIA, Curveball, FALSE INTEL, German Intelligence September 11, 2001 A note from an aide who was with the Secretary of Defense at the National Military Command Center shows that just five hours after the attacks Rumsfeld says, "Best info fast. Judge whether good enough to hit S.H. at same... Tags: Al Qaeda, FALSE INTEL, Rumsfeld, Saddam, Terror Attack September 12, 2001 According to Richard Clarke's book, "Against All Enemies," Bush collars Clarke and says, "I know you have a lot to do and all, but I want you, as soon as you can, to go back over everything, everything. See if... Tags: Bush, Doubters, FALSE INTEL, Saddam September 19, 2001 President Bush tells CIA chief George Tenet, "I want to know about links between Saddam and al Qaeda. The Vice President knows some things that might be helpful." Vice President Cheney tells Tenet about a report that one of the... Tags: Al Qaeda, Atta, Bush, Cheney, CIA, FALSE INTEL October, 2001 Shortly after the 9/11 attacks, the CIA receives a report from Italian intelligence describing a public visit by an Iraqi diplomat to Niger in 1999 and suggesting that the diplomat's covert purpose was to procure yellowcake uranium. The American intelligence... Tags: FALSE INTEL October 1, 2001 On the cover of its first post-9/11 issue, the Weekly Standard runs the word WANTED under pictures of Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.... Tags: Bush, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Neocons October 29, 2001 The Weekly Standard runs an article entitled "Why Iraq?" It alleges that Mohammed Atta met with Iraqi intelligence officials in Europe and that Iraq is linked to the anthrax attacks in America (the latter because one expert thinks it is... Tags: FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Neocons, Saddam, WMD November 8, 2001 The New York Times and Frontline report that an Iraqi defector, an army general, claims that the Iraqi military trained Arab fighters to hijack airplanes. Mother Jones later exposes the Iraqi general as bogus and linked to Ahmed Chalabi.... Tags: FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR November 11, 2001 Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, senior Al Qaeda official in charge of the network's training camp in Khalden, Afghanistan, is captured in Pakistan. Newsweek will call him "America's first big trophy in the war on terror."... Tags: Al-Libi, DOD, FALSE INTEL, TORTURE, WMD December 9, 2001 Vice President Cheney, appearing on Meet the Press, claims it has "been pretty well confirmed that [Mohammed Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several... Tags: Al Qaeda, Atta, Cheney, CIA, DOJ/FBI, FALSE INTEL December 20, 2001 New York Times reporter Judith Miller writes a front-page story for the paper titled "AN IRAQI DEFECTOR TELLS OF WORK ON AT LEAST 20 HIDDEN WEAPONS SITES." The source is a man delivered to Miller by Ahmed Chalabi. The man... Tags: Chalabi, CIA, FALSE INTEL, Judy Miller, WMD |
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04-18-2007, 09:05 PM
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Early January, 2002
Captured terrorist Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi is transferred to CIA custody after a battle royale with the FBI and a personal plea from CIA director George Tenet to the President. The FBI, with experience in collecting evidence for trials, advocates treating... Tags: Al-Libi, Bush, CIA, DOJ/FBI, FALSE INTEL, TORTURE, WMD February, 2002 A report from the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) informs top officials that captured Al Qaeda operative al-Libi is likely a fabricator. Periodically after this point, high-level members of the Bush Administration, including the President, will cite al-Libi's information in public... Tags: Al Qaeda, Al-Libi, Bush, DOD, FALSE INTEL, Powell, TRUE INTEL, WMD February 8, 2002 Bush, citing the highly suspect testimony of captured Al Qaeda operative al-Libi, says in a radio address, "Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training."... Tags: Al-Libi, Bush, FALSE INTEL, WMD March 24, 2002 Appearing on CNN's Late Edition, Cheney says of Saddam, "This is a man of great evil, as the president said. And he is actively pursuing nuclear weapons at this time."... Tags: Cheney, FALSE INTEL, Saddam, WMD April 9, 2002 Bush: "The other day we hauled in a guy named Abu Zubaydah. He's one of the top operatives plotting and planning death and destruction on the United States." Members of the Administration call Zubaydah a "chief operator" and a "member... Tags: Al Qaeda, Bush, CIA, FALSE INTEL, TORTURE, Zubaydah April 29, 2002 Weekly Standard: "Saddam has been moving ahead into a new era, a new age of horrors where terrorists don't commandeer jumbo jets and fly them into our skyscrapers. They plant nuclear bombs in our cities."... Tags: FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Neocons, Saddam May, 2002 The most important corroborator of Curveball's story, a former major in the Iraqi intelligence service, is deemed a liar by the CIA and DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency). A fabricator notice is posted in US intelligence databases.... Tags: CIA, Curveball, DOD, FALSE INTEL, TRUE INTEL May 18, 2002 Details of the President's daily briefing of August 6, 2001, are revealed, including its title: "Bin Laden determined to strike in US." The same day, another pre-9/11 memo is discovered revealing that an FBI agent in Arizona had urged his... Tags: 9/11 Commission, Bush, CIA, DOJ/FBI, FALSE INTEL, TRUE INTEL May 21, 2002 Defense Secretary Rumsfeld tells a Senate subcommittee that there are al Qaeda terrorists living in the United States. According to Ron Suskind's 2006 book, "The One Percent Doctrine," this is a reference to the "Lackawanna Six," a group of six... Tags: FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Rumsfeld, Terror Prosecutions Mid June, 2002 Cheney and Libby begin visits to the CIA to have direct exchanges with analysts, creating an environment in which analysts often feel pressured to make intelligence and assessments match what the White House wants. "The analysts at the CIA were... Tags: Cheney, CIA, FALSE INTEL August 26, 2002 At a speech in Nashville, Vice President Cheney says, "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies,... Tags: Cheney, FALSE INTEL, Saddam, WMD |
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September 2002
U.S. Army General James "Spider" Marks is named the top intelligence officer for the coalition forces planning to invade Iraq. He begins looking at the intelligence on WMD. He finds the information in disarray and top officials disinterested. Intelligence analysts... Tags: DOD, False Intel, Rumsfeld, WMD September, 2002 Some 30 Americans are sent as CIA moles to Iraq, reports James Risen in his 2006 book "State of War." They all have relatives in Iraq who are close to Iraq's weapons program, and are supposed to come back with... Tags: CIA, FALSE INTEL, TRUE INTEL, WMD September, 2002 Tyler Drumheller, the head of CIA spying in Europe, calls an official in German intelligence seeking access to Curveball. They meet for lunch. According to Drumheller, the German officer tells him that Curveball had suffered a mental breakdown. "They won't... Tags: CIA, Curveball, FALSE INTEL, German Intelligence, TRUE INTEL, WMD September 7, 2002 In a news conference with Tony Blair, President Bush claims that an IAEA report says Iraq is six months from developing a nuclear weapon. Because there is no new report from the IAEA saying this, most news agencies interpret the... Tags: Bush, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, IAEA, WMD September 8, 2002 Judith Miller and Michael Gordon, citing unnamed administration sources, write on the front page of the New York Times, "Iraq has sought to buy thousands of specially designed aluminum tubes, which American officials believe were intended as components of centrifuges... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, Cheney, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Judy Miller September 8, 2002 Later the same day, the administration goes on the offensive, pushing the aluminum-tubes-as-nuclear-threat story in multiple TV appearances. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice appears on CNN, saying the aluminum tubes "are only really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs.... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, Cheney, DOE, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Rice September 8, 2002 Vice President Cheney also says on Meet the Press: "Mohamed Atta, who was the lead hijacker, did apparently travel to Prague on a number of occasions. And on at least one occasion, we have reporting that places him in Prague... Tags: Al Qaeda, Atta, Cheney, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR September 12, 2002 Bush tells the UN General Assembly that Iraq is a "grave and gathering danger," and that "Iraq has made several attempts to buy high-strength aluminum tubes used to enrich uranium for a nuclear weapon. Should Iraq acquire fissile material, it... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, Bush, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, WMD September 12, 2002 The White House issues a report on Iraq intelligence entitled "A Decade of Deception and Defiance." It cites information from Adnan Ihsan Saeed al-Haideri, the Judith Miller source who failed a CIA polygraph test. The information remains on the White... Tags: FALSE INTEL, Judy Miller, WMD September 14, 2002 Dick Cheney tells Rush Limbaugh, "What's happening, of course, is we're getting additional information that, in fact, [Saddam] is reconstituting his biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programs and that's what really precipitates the concern now."... Tags: Cheney, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, WMD September 18, 2002 Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress, "Some have argued that the nuclear threat from Iraq is not imminent, that Saddam Hussein is at least five to seven years away from having nuclear weapons. I would not be so certain—we should be just... Tags: FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Rumsfeld, WMD September 19, 2002 Rumsfeld tells Congress: "[Saddam has] amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of biological weapons, including Anthrax, botulism, toxins, and possibly Smallpox. He's amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons, including VX, Sarin and mustard gas. His regime has an active program to... Tags: FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Rumsfeld, WMD September 20, 2002 Vice President Cheney: "We now have irrefutable evidence that [Saddam] has once again set up and reconstituted his program to take uranium, to enrich it to sufficiently high grade, so that it will function as the base material as a... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, Cheney, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Oil, Saddam, WMD September 24, 2002 Downing Street publishes a 55-page dossier on Iraq's weapons capabilities. It states without qualification that Iraq can launch a chemical or biological attack within 45 minutes. It also says Saddam has sought to acquire "significant quantities" of uranium from Africa.... Tags: British Intelligence, FALSE INTEL, Niger Uranium, Sexed-Up Dossier, WMD |
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September 25, 2002
President Bush tells journalists, "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror."... Tags: Al Qaeda, CIA, FALSE INTEL, Rice September 26, 2002 President Bush says in a Rose Garden speech, "the Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons." A Defense Intelligence Agency report distributed in the White House around the time of the speech says there is "no reliable information on whether... Tags: Bush, DOD, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, TRUE INTEL, WMD September 27, 2002 Donald Rumsfeld calls the link between Iraq and al Qaeda "accurate and not debatable."... Tags: Al Qaeda, FALSE INTEL, Rumsfeld September 28, 2002 Bush addresses the nation: "The danger to our country is grave and it is growing. The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make more and, according to the British government, could launch a biological... Tags: Al Qaeda, Bush, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Sexed-Up Dossier, WMD October, 2002 At the request of Congress, a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) is produced. It is supposed to represent the best the intelligence community can offer, and contains the claims that will eventually be justifications for war. Many turn out to be... Tags: Al Qaeda, Aluminum Tubes, CIA, Curveball, DOE, FALSE INTEL, Mobile Weapons Labs, State, TRUE INTEL, WMD October 5, 2002 George Tenet reads a draft of a speech George Bush is set to deliver in Cincinnati on October 7. It includes the claim that Saddam has "been caught attempting to purchase" uranium in Niger. The CIA tells Stephen Hadley and... Tags: Bush, CIA, FALSE INTEL, Niger Uranium, TRUE INTEL October 6, 2002 Seeing that the Niger uranium claim, despite CIA objections, has not been taken out of the draft of George Bush's upcoming Cincinnati speech, George Tenet calls Stephen Hadley and expresses concern. As a follow-up, the CIA sends a memo to... Tags: CIA, FALSE INTEL, Niger Uranium, Rice, TRUE INTEL October 8, 2002 Knight Ridder reporters Warren P. Strobel, Jonathan S. Landay and John Walcott write: "A growing number of military officers, intelligence professionals and diplomats in [Bush's] own government privately have deep misgivings about the administration's double-time march toward war. "These officials... Tags: Al Qaeda, Bush, FALSE INTEL, Saddam, TRUE INTEL, WMD October 9, 2002 In response to Bush's October 7 speech in which the President made his case for war against Iraq, anonymous officials tell the Guardian that Bush "relied on a slanted and sometimes entirely false reading of the available US intelligence" and... Tags: Bush, FALSE INTEL, TRUE INTEL October 23, 2002 Roughly one year after Rumsfeld and some of his senior advisers set up their own Iraq intelligence shop, Pentagon officials acknowledge its existence in the press.... Tags: DOD, FALSE INTEL December 7, 2002 Iraq submits a 12,200-page declaration to the UN purporting to document all its unconventional arms.... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, FALSE INTEL, Niger Uranium, UN, WMD December 19, 2002 The US discounts the Iraqi weapons declaration because it fails to account for various weapons that a UN inspection team said it "could have produced," and because it does not mention the tubes purchased for a uranium centrifuge or the... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, FALSE INTEL, Niger Uranium, Powell, State, WMD December 21, 2002 The CIA's leadership goes to the White House to present the evidence for WMD in Iraq. Bush is underwhelmed, telling Tenet, "Nice try, but that isn't gonna sell Joe Public… This is the best we've got?" Tenet responds, "It's a... Tags: Bush, CIA, FALSE INTEL, WMD |
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January, 2003
The CIA finally balks at being assigned over and over to confirm what it viewed as phony intelligence, according to a later report in The Washington Post. In an angry dispute, CIA Deputy Director John McLaughlin tells Cheney's aide I.... Tags: Cheney, CIA, FALSE INTEL January 28, 2003 President Bush, in his State of the Union address, says the infamous l6 words: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." Various intelligence agencies know this to be false. The CIA... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, Bush, Curveball, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Mobile Weapons Labs, Niger Uranium, Weapons Inspections, WMD January 29, 2003 A day after the President’s State of the Union address, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld backs him up. “[Saddam’s] regime has the design for a nuclear weapon; it was working on several different methods of enriching uranium, and recently was discovered... Tags: Al Qaeda, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, Niger Uranium, Rumsfeld, WMD January 29, 2003 Then-United State ambassador to the UN John Negroponte, asked about IAEA chief Mohammed ElBaradei’s skepticism that the aluminum tubes bound for Iraq were to be used in a centrifuge, responds, “If your question to me is, ‘Are we convinced that... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, FALSE INTEL, IAEA, UN, WMD January 29, 2003 In a report entitled “Iraqi Support for Terrorism,” the CIA revisits the claim that Mohammad Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence official in Prague. “Some information asserts that Atta met with IIS chief…al-Ani, but the most reliable reporting to date... Tags: Al Qaeda, Atta, CIA, FALSE INTEL, TRUE INTEL March 8, 2003 Joseph Wilson appears on CNN and is asked to comment on ElBaradei's appearance at the U.N. the day before, in which ElBaradei called the Niger uranium document forgeries. Wilson says it's an embarrassment that the U.S. intelligence community couldn't come... Tags: Doubters, FALSE INTEL, IAEA, Niger Uranium, Plamegate, WMD March 9, 2003 On CBS's Face the Nation, Condoleezza Rice says, "We know from a detainee that—the head of training for al-Qaeda—that they sought help in developing chemical and biological weapons because they weren't doing very well on their own. They sought it... Tags: Al-Libi, FALSE INTEL, Rice, TORTURE, WMD |
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Cheney appears on Meet the Press. He says, "My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." On the fact that the IAEA's ElBaradei doubts Saddam Hussein has a nuclear program: "I think Mr. ElBaradei frankly is wrong.... Tags: Cheney, FALSE INTEL, FEAR FACTOR, IAEA, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, WMD March 18, 2003 A Washington Post article runs, inside the paper on page A–13, under the headline, "Bush Clings To Dubious Allegations About Iraq." It reads, in part: "As the Bush administration prepares to attack Iraq this week, it is doing so on... Tags: Bush, FALSE INTEL, TRUE INTEL March 30, 2003 Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld deflects criticism that he hasn't deployed enough troops. Of Iraq's purported WMD he says: "We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."... Tags: FALSE INTEL, Rumsfeld, WMD April 6, 2003 U.S. forces take Salman Pak military base, where Iraqis supposedly trained hijackers and kept WMD. Troops turn up no evidence of either.... Tags: Al Qaeda, FALSE INTEL, WMD April 7, 2003 Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, aka Baghdad Bob, declares: "The infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad. Be assured, Baghdad is safe, protected. Iraqis are heroes." Baghdad Bob will become an internet celebrity.... Tags: FALSE INTEL April 10, 2003 In a televised address, U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair assures the Iraqi people, "Saddam gave us no choice [but] to act."... Tags: Blair, FALSE INTEL, Saddam April 19, 2003 A trailer is seized at a Kurdish checkpoint; Bush will later claim it's a mobile weapons lab.... Tags: FALSE INTEL, Mobile Weapons Labs, WMD May 6, 2003 George Bush touts the bio-lab trailer found at a Kurdish checkpoint: "I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program. I will leave the details... to the experts."... Tags: Bush, FALSE INTEL, Weapons Inspections, WMD May 9, 2003 "The truth is that, for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy, we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on, which was weapons of mass destruction."... Tags: FALSE INTEL, Neocons, WMD May 28, 2003 The CIA reports publicly that a seized Iraqi trailer is a bioweapons lab. The claim is based heavily on Iraqi defector Curveball's "assessment" of photos relayed to Germany. Only one of 15 intelligence analysts buys the conclusion. A few months... Tags: CIA, Curveball, FALSE INTEL, German Intelligence, Mobile Weapons Labs, WMD May 29, 2003 George W. Bush says, "We found the weapons of mass destruction...You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, 'Iraq has got mobile labs to build biological weapons'...we've so far discovered two."... Tags: Bush, FALSE INTEL, Mobile Weapons Labs, Powell, WMD May 30, 2003 Blair denies that WMD intelligence was distorted or exaggerated.... Tags: Blair, FALSE INTEL, Sexed-Up Dossier, WMD June 5, 2003 The Washington Post reports, "Former and current intelligence officials said they felt a continual drumbeat, not only from Cheney and Libby, but also from Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz, Feith, and less so from CIA Director George J. Tenet,... Tags: Cheney, CIA, DOD, FALSE INTEL, Neocons, WMD June 9, 2003 In a retrospective of pre-war intelligence, Newsweek reports that the aluminum tube claims were doubted early on within the intelligence community: "At the CIA, Tenet seems to have latched on to the tubes as a kind of smoking gun. He... Tags: Aluminum Tubes, CIA, DOE, FALSE INTEL, State, TRUE INTEL, WMD |
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You're going to have to point out the specific Bush lies to me if you want me to comment. I don't feel like searching for a needle in a haystack today.
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 I love it when Bush apologists use Clinton as a reason for Bush lying the country to war. A little education for you on the role Chalabi played in Bush lying the country to war... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Entries from Lie By Lie tagged with 'Chalabi' April 9, 1992 A military court in Jordan convicts Ahmed Chalabi in absentia for embezzling money from a Jordanian bank he mismanaged into collapse. He is sentenced to 22 years in prison.... Tags: Chalabi, Saddam January 27, 1998 Ahmed Chalabi hosts in his London apartment a liaison of the UN weapons inspectors working in Iraq. The liaison, Scott Ritter, explains the limits of the inspectors' Iraq intelligence. "I should have asked him what he could give me," Ritter... Tags: Chalabi, FALSE INTEL, WMD October 31, 1998 President Clinton signs the Iraq Liberation Act, drafted by Trent Lott and others&150;with an assist by Ahmed Chalabi&150;and passed by Congress almost unanimously. The act makes it the policy of the United States "to support efforts to remove the regime... Tags: Boondoggle, Chalabi, Saddam Late 1998 General Anthony Zinni, commander of US combat forces in the Middle East, is given a copy of Chalabi's plan to topple Saddam. "It got me pretty angry," he will later tell Jane Mayer of The New Yorker. "They were saying... Tags: Chalabi, Saddam, TRUE INTEL November 6, 2000 Congress designates $25 million for "programs benefiting the Iraqi people," mandating that at least $12 million of the funding be administered by Ahmed Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress.... Tags: Boondoggle, Chalabi September, 2001 Iraqi defector Curveball, granted asylum in Germany, ceases cooperating with German intelligence officials. The CIA assures the Germans that they have other sources that corroborate Curveball's claims that Iraq has at least seven mobile factories brewing biological poisons. The reality... Tags: Chalabi, CIA, Curveball, FALSE INTEL, German Intelligence September 18, 2001 Ahmed Chalabi is a guest speaker at a two-day meeting at the Pentagon of the Defense Policy Board, an influential body packed with high-level Defense officials and opinion makers and chaired by Richard Perle, according to an article in Vanity... Tags: Chalabi, DOD, Neocons December 20, 2001 New York Times reporter Judith Miller writes a front-page story for the paper titled "AN IRAQI DEFECTOR TELLS OF WORK ON AT LEAST 20 HIDDEN WEAPONS SITES." The source is a man delivered to Miller by Ahmed Chalabi. The man... Tags: Chalabi, CIA, FALSE INTEL, Judy Miller, WMD March, 2002 "Chalabi's defector reports [are] now flowing from the Pentagon directly to the Vice-President's office, and then on to the President, with little prior evaluation by intelligence professionals," according to an October 2003 report by Seymour Hersh in The New Yorker.... Tags: Bush, Chalabi, Cheney, DOD, State February 25, 2003 Rumsfeld demands that two of Jay Garner’s most qualified team members be let go. One is Tom Warrick, who has led the State Department’s work on regime change issues and has attended a conference of Iraqi opposition leaders, many of... Tags: Chalabi, Cheney, Neocons, Quagmire, Reconstruction Authorities, Rumsfeld, State February 25, 2003 Rumsfeld demands that two of Jay Garner’s most qualified team members be let go. One is Tom Warrick, who has led the State Department’s work on regime change issues and has attended a conference of Iraqi opposition leaders, many of... Tags: Chalabi, Cheney, Neocons, Quagmire, Reconstruction Authorities, Rumsfeld, State April 6, 2003 The Pentagon flies Ahmad Chalabi and 700 followers to southern Iraq. Chalabi is quickly installed in Baghdad's ritzy Hunting Club. An aide warns Gen. Garner that Chalabi's men are acting like "a warlord group."Garner eventually holds a press conference and... Tags: Chalabi, DOD, Neocons, Reconstruction Authorities |
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 There they are in front of your face and you pretend you don't see them...........................classic! I didn't really expect you to admit your boy is a liar since you have invested so much of your life and personal time in him and his cartel trying to explain the worst administration in modern history as botched intelligence. Here's a few notable facts for you regarding your botched intelligence and/or hero from the links above. ---------------------------------------------------------- The year 2000 US agents in Germany never did a background check on Curveball, nor did they debrief him themselves until a year after the invasion. Nonetheless, President Bush and other senior US officials will cite his claims repeatedly in the run-up to the war. In a presidential debate with Vice President Al Gore, George W. Bush says, "The Vice President believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders." He added that the US military was already "overextended in too many places," and ought to be used to "prevent war from happening in the first place." In the same campaign, VP candidate Cheney says the US stopped short of toppling Saddam Hussein, in 1991, so as to avoid being "an imperialist power, willy-nilly moving into capitals in that part of the world, taking down governments." In a subsequent debate, Bush outlines his views on US power: "If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us. If we're a humble nation, but strong, they'll welcome us." Supreme Court decides Gore v. Bush in Bush's favor. The year 2001 Ken Lay is named to the Bush Energy Department transition team. Jack Abramoff is appointed to the transition team for the Department of the Interior. Abramoff's administrative assistant, Susan Ralston, is hired as an advisor to Karl Rove. President Bush appoints Joe Allbaugh, a campaign aide from Texas, as head of FEMA. Allbaugh has no previous experience in disaster management. "From the very beginning, there was a conviction that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go." Saddam's removal is the first item of Bush's inaugural national security meeting. Then-Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill later tells journalist Ron Suskind, "It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying, 'Go find me a way to do this.'" Bush also says the emphasis on Iraq will accompany a de-emphasis on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Secretary of State Colin Powell says US disengagement would give Ariel Sharon free rein and bring further suffering upon the Palestinians. According to Suskind's later book, "The One Percent Doctrine," Bush replies, "Sometimes a show of force by one side can really clarify things." Last edited by Bronco_Beerslug; 04-20-2007 at 07:57 PM.. |
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04-20-2007, 07:57 PM
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So let me get your logic straight Beerslug: if Bush said something innaccurate it's automatically a "lie"?
So every time you've said something innaccurate in your life it was also a "lie"?  Last edited by The Lone Bolt; 04-20-2007 at 07:59 PM.. |
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Do yourself a favor and read through the complete timeline links I posted (It will take hours). ---------------------------------------------------------- 2001 continued.... A United States submarine strikes a Japanese fishing boat off the coast of Hawaii, killing nine crewmembers, including four high-school students. Reports later show that civilians were on board the submarine, with two actually at the controls at the time of the accident. Speculation abounds that the civilians were Republican political donors affiliated with the Texas oil industry. Exxon vice president James Rouse meets with Dick Cheney's task force on energy policy. It was the first meeting in which, according to a White House document later discovered by the Washington Post, oil executives "gave detailed energy policy recommendations" to the White House. US and British jets bomb targets outside the Iraqi no-fly zone, near Baghdad. Bush says the strikes are intended "to send a clear signal to Saddam." Colin Powell, on a visit to Egypt, says that Saddam Hussein "has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors." L. Paul "Jerry" Bremer, former chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism and later head of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, comments presciently at a conference, "The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major incident and then suddenly say, `Oh, my God, shouldn't we be organized to deal with this?' A Pentagon document dated March 5, 2001 and titled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts" includes a map of areas for potential exploration. It is brought to light by Ron Suskind in his book "The Price of Loyalty." "It talks about contractors around the world from, you know, 30-40 countries," Suskind will tell CBS. "And which ones have what intentions on oil in Iraq." Chairman of Conoco Archie Dunham meets with Cheney's energy task force. Energy task force staffers meet with BP regional president Bob Malone, BP chief economist Peter Davies, and two BP employees. Mohammad Atta allegedly meets with senior Iraqi intelligence officials at the Iraqi embassy in Prague. The 9/11 Report (Section 7) will later debunk this claim: "The FBI has gathered evidence indicating that Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 4 (as evidenced by a bank surveillance camera photo), and in Coral Springs, Florida, on April 11, where he leased an apartment. On April 6, 9, 10, and 11, Atta's cellular telephone was used numerous times to call various lodging establishments in Florida from cell sites within Florida. No evidence has been found that Atta was in the Czech Republic in April 2001." Dick Cheney will nevertheless repeatedly invoke the meeting as evidence of a link between Al Qaeda and Saddam. A report containing research provided by a CIA analyst known only as Joe reaches top Bush administration officials. It claims that aluminum tubes being sought by Iraq are meant for uranium centrifuges. The assessment is immediately challenged by the Energy Department, which builds centrifuges and runs the government's nuclear weapons programs. The New York Times in 2004 will report, "The next day, Energy Department officials ticked off a long list of reasons why the tubes did not appear well suited for centrifuges. Simply put, the analysis concluded that the tubes were the wrong size - too narrow, too heavy, too long - to be of much practical use in a centrifuge." Conoco official Alan Huffman and officials from the US Oil and Gas Association meet with Cheney's energy task force. Huffman will later confirm the meeting, saying, "We met in the Executive Office Building, if I remember correctly." Royal Dutch/Shell Group chairman Sir Mark Moody-Stuart and Shell Oil chairman Steven Miller meet with task force staffers. According to Richard Clarke's "Against All Enemies," Paul Wolfowitz challenges Clarke at a meeting: "You give bin Laden too much credit. He could not do all these things like the 1993 attack in New York, not without a state sponsor. Just because FBI and CIA have failed to find the linkages doesn't mean that they don't exist." Last edited by Bronco_Beerslug; 04-20-2007 at 08:47 PM.. |
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The first members of the "Lackawanna Six," young Yemeni men raised in Lackawanna, NY, leave for Afghanistan. A few weeks later, the others will follow. In an Al Qaeda training camp, they have a brief encounter with Osama bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri. One of the members, increasingly uneasy, fakes a leg injury to get out. The others soon follow. The Energy Department proposes an alternative explanation for the aluminum tubes that CIA analyst "Joe" claims are for nuclear purposes. According to a later New York Times account, "It turned out, [the Department of Energy] reported, that Iraq had for years used high-strength aluminum tubes to make combustion chambers for slim rockets fired from launcher pods. Back in 1996, inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency had even examined some of those tubes, also made of 7075-T6 aluminum, at a military complex, the Nasser metal fabrication plant in Baghdad, where the Iraqis acknowledged making rockets. According to the international agency, the rocket tubes, some 66,000 of them, were 900 millimeters in length, with a diameter of 81 millimeters and walls 3.3 millimeters thick. The tubes now sought by Iraq had precisely the same dimensions - a perfect match." On or around this date, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice is briefed by CIA director George Tenet and counterterrorism chief J. Cofer Black about terror threats. Bob Woodward, in his book "State of Denial," reports that Tenet and Black decided they had to request a dramatic, "out-of-cycle" meeting with Rice to convey their anxiety over the chance of an attack against American interests, possibly within the United States. It was, according to Woodward, the "starkest warning they had given the White House" on bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Rice, in Woodward's account, was "polite," but Tenet and Black "felt the brush-off." When Woodward's book came out in October 2006, Rice denied that the meeting--which the State Dept. confirmed took place--was exceptional, and disputed Woodward's characterization. "What I am quite certain of is that I would remember if I was told, as this account apparently says, that there was about to be an attack in the United States," she said. [A]nd the idea that I would somehow have ignored that I find incomprehensible." Presidential Daily Briefing handed to Bush: "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US." FBI information, it said, "indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York." Ron Suskind's book "The One Percent Doctrine" will report that a CIA officer flew to Bush's ranch to call the President's attention to the document. After the briefing, Bush said, "All right. You've covered your ass, now." A team of scientists at the Energy Department revisits the question of the aluminum tubes after US intelligence intercepts a shipment. They raise significant doubts in a "Technical Intelligence Note." The New York Times later summarizes: "First, in size and material, the tubes were very different from those Iraq had used in its centrifuge prototypes before the first Gulf War. Those models used tubes that were nearly twice as wide and made of exotic materials that performed far better than aluminum .. Their walls were three times too thick for 'favorable use' in a centrifuge .. They were also anodized, meaning they had a special coating to protect them from weather. Anodized tubes, the team pointed out, are 'not consistent' with a uranium centrifuge because the coating can produce bad reactions with uranium gas. In other words, [if the Iraqis intended the tubes for use in building centrifuges, it meant they had] chosen to forsake years of promising centrifuge work and instead start from scratch, with inferior material built to less-than-optimal dimensions." Iraqi defector Curveball, granted asylum in Germany, ceases cooperating with German intelligence officials. The CIA assures the Germans that they have other sources that corroborate Curveball's claims - that Iraq has at least seven mobile factories brewing biological poisons. The reality is that they have three, and all three will be proven to be frauds. Two have connections to Ahmed Chalabi. In a lengthy speech to Pentagon workers, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld says that there is an "adversary that poses a threat, a serious threat, to the security of the United States of America." Rumsfeld says it is an enemy "more subtle and more implacable" than the former Soviet Union, and is "closer to home" than "the last decrepit dictators of the world." He is speaking of Pentagon bureaucracy. The National Security Agency intercepts a message (translated Sept. 12): "The match is about to begin" and "Tomorrow is the zero hour." Three years later it will be revealed that the FBI still hasn't translated 120,000 hours of potentially valuable terrorism-related recordings. Al Qaeda attacks the United States. Almost 3,000 people die in two attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City, one attack on the Pentagon in Washington D.C., and on an airliner that crashes in rural Pennsylvania. Dick Cheney issues a shoot-down order that is too late to be of any use, claiming that he did so after speaking via phone with the President. The 9/11 Commission will be unable to find evidence of the call. A note from an aide who was with the Secretary of Defense at the National Military Command Center shows that just five hours after the attacks Rumsfeld says, "Best info fast. Judge whether good enough to hit S.H. at same time. Not only UBL Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not." A member of the "Lackawanna Six" - a group of young Yemeni men raised in New York State who met with bin Laden at an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan in May 2001 - calls a local FBI agent to offer his assistance. According to Richard Clarke's book, "Against All Enemies," Bush collars Clarke and says, "I know you have a lot to do and all, but I want you, as soon as you can, to go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way." Clarke responds, "But, Mr. President, Al Qaeda did this." Bush tells him, "I know, I know, but -- see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred...." The United States greatly expands the practice of "extraordinary rendition" whereby individuals suspected of having information are sent to countries known to torture prisoners. MR. RUSSERT [Meet the Press]: Do we have any evidence linking Saddam Hussein or Iraqis to [9/11]? VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. Six days after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush signs a document outlining the war on terror. In a minor note, the document directs the Pentagon to begin planning military options for an invasion of Iraq. He also signs a "sweeping finding that gave the CIA broad authorization to disrupt terrorist activity, including permission to kill, capture and detain members of al Qaeda anywhere in the world," according to a later account in the Washington Post. In a move a federal judge will later call "conscience-shocking," EPA chief Christine Todd Whitman announces that the thousands of pounds of hazardous materials released into the air after the World Trade Center collapse pose no health risk to residents of the area around Ground Zero. It is the third time since the attacks that the EPA has issued such a sentiment. Subsequent news reports and lawsuits will show that Whitman acted at the behest of the White House, and that relevant studies had not been completed. Tens of thousands of people suffer "debilitating health problems" related to the attacks, according to Newsweek. |
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all this time and effort for a Cheeps troll that isn't even going to read it anyway. |
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I'm making the point that Beerslug hasn't conclusively proven that Bush "lied". Can either your or BBS present just one example of Bush saying something that he knew at the time was untrue with conclusive evidence to that effect? I see nothing here but circumstantial evidence and that is the objective truth that you are in denial of. Until then you have a theory, not a fact. And if you want to debate the difference between theory and fact I'd be happy to oblige. |
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I'm not gonna debate Bush's intelligence or lack of it. I'm not gonna debate responsibility or anything. It's his and it's a massive cluster****. If I had my way Bush would be gone and nobody would ever speak of him ever again.
But I have to agree. I haven't read through it all and don't plan to but going off of what was put forth in the posts... Just because it's a colossal disaster, it's his responsibility, and he needs to man up to it, doesn't mean he was lying. I find it incredibly hard to believe that Bush and the crew isn't full of **** more often than not but what I'm seeing put forth here doesn't read like lies to me. It's definately him reaching for an excuse and any sorry ass reason to start it all. I don't read it as lies so much as irresponsible recklessness and clouded judgement made worse by arrogance. |
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