Dream draft day? How do we fill our holes, now?

[p7superfly]

1st: Reggie Nelson ... Our future safety. We might have to trade up to nab him.

2nd: Trade it to the Bears for Lance Briggs ... throw in whatever else. The pick from the Skins next year? A third next year? We should have a TON of cap room then, and if we can get him on a first year semi-cheap deal, we could afford him.

3rd: Trade it to the Panthers for Kris Jenkins.
3rd B: Walter Thomas - The mammoth DT with 'character issues' ... Jenkins, Warren, Thomas, and re-sign Michael Myers on the cheap. Is this too high for him, though? If he's not there, best DE.

6th: Crosby if he lasts. If not, grab best available DE.

6thB: Ryne Robinson - Speed weapon.

7th: Casey Studdard - Our O-Lineman of the future.
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Weak on DE, but I think it gets us our "Impact Players" that we're seeking. Fills our need for a S to replace Ferguson/ Lynch. It also gets us the DT's we need. Biggest thing, it also gets us that 3rd linebacker that we need.

[ColoradoBuff]

Key word is....DREAM draft!!! Very, very slight chance any of this happens.

[mattob14]

The trade for Jenkins would be great, and Nelson would be OK in the first, but I don't really like the rest. We don't need another WLB, with DJ already playing out of position. Briggs isn't the MLB or SLB we need. Thomas is way too high in round 3. People are falling in love with his size, but he played in only two games last year in JC ball. If he falls to the 6th, grab him. Otherwise, don't bother. No way Crosby is there in the 6th, Studdard and Robinson are OK picks.

[iforgotmypassword]

if that happens ill eat my underwear

[SoCalBronco]

There's a better chance of Denver trading up to get Bob's mom than Mason Crosby lasting to one of our picks in the 6th round.

[youcandoit1687]

No need to have three starting WLBs. Reggie Nelson wouldn't be able to provide any help in the box which is way more important than his CF skills. Kris Jenkins and Walter Thomas would be nice additions. Crosby won't be there. Ryne Robinson would be okay but just about the same as Domenik Hixon. NO MORE OGs, it's one of our deepest positions now. Heck, it might be our deepest.

[Clockwork Orange]

Dream day one without trades:

1. The talk of his falling down draft boards turns out to be true and the Broncos run to the podium to have their selection of Jamaal Anderson, DE Arkansas announced.

2. The Broncos are thinking of going BPA and not necessarily with a need, yet they're shocked to see that DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler, DT LSU is both the BPA and fills a need in round 2.

3a. Once again not being able to believe their good fortune, the Broncos snag Eric Weddle, S Utah to groom for a year before John Lynch hangs 'em up.

3b. Finally giving some love to the offensive side, the Broncos select James Marten, OT Boston College to be the next nasty bastard on the Broncos O-line.

This happens and I won't even care who the day two selections are.

[U GOT JACKED UP]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Dream day one without trades:

1. The talk of his falling down draft boards turns out to be true and the Broncos run to the podium to have their selection of Jamaal Anderson, DE Arkansas announced.

2. The Broncos are thinking of going BPA and not necessarily with a need, yet they're shocked to see that DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler, DT LSU is both the BPA and fills a need in round 2.

3a. Once again not being able to believe their good fortune, the Broncos snag Eric Weddle, S Utah to groom for a year before John Lynch hangs 'em up.

3b. Finally giving some love to the offensive side, the Broncos select James Marten, OT Boston College to be the next nasty bastard on the Broncos O-line.

This happens and I won't even care who the day two selections are.

that draft would be awesome

[youcandoit1687]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Dream day one without trades:

1. The talk of his falling down draft boards turns out to be true and the Broncos run to the podium to have their selection of Jamaal Anderson, DE Arkansas announced.

2. The Broncos are thinking of going BPA and not necessarily with a need, yet they're shocked to see that DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler, DT LSU is both the BPA and fills a need in round 2.

3a. Once again not being able to believe their good fortune, the Broncos snag Eric Weddle, S Utah to groom for a year before John Lynch hangs 'em up.

3b. Finally giving some love to the offensive side, the Broncos select James Marten, OT Boston College to be the next nasty bastard on the Broncos O-line.

This happens and I won't even care who the day two selections are.

I think you meant Tank Tyler DT NCST. The problem with him is that he's only 6-2, too small for Jim Bates. That's why I think if we go DT, it will either be Alan Branch(6 6), Justin Harrell(6 5), Ray McDonald(6-4 but skinny), Ryan McBean(6 6 but skinny), Kareem Brown(6 4), Paul Soliai(6 4), Louis Leonard(6 5), or Walter Thomas(6 5). Bates loves the big bodies, as evidenced by Big Daddy, Kris Jenkins, and hopefully Gerard Warren.

Eric Weddle is being overrated by some because of his versatility in college. I'd prefer a true safety like Wendling or even the project, Michael Johnson, who has the physicals to be great if he could have a coach or mentor like John Lynch work with him. Lynch would be a perfect mentor for him, similar body types really.

I haven't seen Jamaal Anderson falling but he would be a great pick up there. He's not the best in run support but is a better all around player than Jarvis Moss.

At this point, I'm not sure we can go OT on the first day and if we do it should be sacrificing a safety. DE, DT, and LB are all first day NEEDS in my opinion. Safety and OT are secondary needs that could be sacrificed to move up.

[Clockwork Orange]

I did mean NC State, not LSU. My fault.

I don't see LB as a first day need, personally. It's the position that can much more easily stopgapped for the time being. Not to mention that LB's seem to hit the UFA market fairly regularly.

I like versatility in a DB. The Broncos sure needed it last year when they were reduced to using Karl Paymah at safety due to injuries. I'd be happy with a blue collar guy who can play mutiple positions like Weddle.

I'm not saying that my scenario is the perfect one, but it's one that I'd be absolutely thrilled with.

[Rascal]

Originally Posted by youcandoit1687

I think you meant Tank Tyler DT NCST. The problem with him is that he's only 6-2, too small for Jim Bates. That's why I think if we go DT, it will either be Alan Branch(6 6), Justin Harrell(6 5), Ray McDonald(6-4 but skinny), Ryan McBean(6 6 but skinny), Kareem Brown(6 4), Paul Soliai(6 4), Louis Leonard(6 5), or Walter Thomas(6 5). Bates loves the big bodies, as evidenced by Big Daddy, Kris Jenkins, and hopefully Gerard Warren.

Eric Weddle is being overrated by some because of his versatility in college. I'd prefer a true safety like Wendling or even the project, Michael Johnson, who has the physicals to be great if he could have a coach or mentor like John Lynch work with him. Lynch would be a perfect mentor for him, similar body types really.

I haven't seen Jamaal Anderson falling but he would be a great pick up there. He's not the best in run support but is a better all around player than Jarvis Moss.

At this point, I'm not sure we can go OT on the first day and if we do it should be sacrificing a safety. DE, DT, and LB are all first day NEEDS in my opinion. Safety and OT are secondary needs that could be sacrificed to move up.

No he isn't. In fact most of the DT's that have started for Bates have been 6'2".

[Rascal]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Dream day one without trades:

1. The talk of his falling down draft boards turns out to be true and the Broncos run to the podium to have their selection of Jamaal Anderson, DE Arkansas announced.

2. The Broncos are thinking of going BPA and not necessarily with a need, yet they're shocked to see that DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler, DT LSU is both the BPA and fills a need in round 2.

3a. Once again not being able to believe their good fortune, the Broncos snag Eric Weddle, S Utah to groom for a year before John Lynch hangs 'em up.

3b. Finally giving some love to the offensive side, the Broncos select James Marten, OT Boston College to be the next nasty bastard on the Broncos O-line.

This happens and I won't even care who the day two selections are.

I'd prefer if we got Harris at LB in the second round, and the Paul Soliali in the third. But I'd be happy with either draft really.

[plummershelper]

Originally Posted by p7superfly

1st: Reggie Nelson ... Our future safety. We might have to trade up to nab him.

2nd: Trade it to the Bears for Lance Briggs ... throw in whatever else. The pick from the Skins next year? A third next year? We should have a TON of cap room then, and if we can get him on a first year semi-cheap deal, we could afford him.

3rd: Trade it to the Panthers for Kris Jenkins.
3rd B: Walter Thomas - The mammoth DT with 'character issues' ... Jenkins, Warren, Thomas, and re-sign Michael Myers on the cheap. Is this too high for him, though? If he's not there, best DE.

6th: Crosby if he lasts. If not, grab best available DE.

6thB: Ryne Robinson - Speed weapon.

7th: Casey Studdard - Our O-Lineman of the future.
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Weak on DE, but I think it gets us our "Impact Players" that we're seeking. Fills our need for a S to replace Ferguson/ Lynch. It also gets us the DT's we need. Biggest thing, it also gets us that 3rd linebacker that we need.

No way we get Briggs for a 2nd. They refused the 6th for 31 and Briggs, no way they settle for our 2nd. Also, 3rd is too early for Thomas.

[youcandoit1687]

Originally Posted by Rascal

No he isn't. In fact most of the DT's that have started for Bates have been 6'2".

Really, it was my impression that Bates wanted huge bodies in the middle, hence the Big Daddy trade and Branch speculation. Big Bodies in the middle to take up three and a half blockers and tall, speed guys like Jason Taylor, Aaron Kampman, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, or Jarvis Moss to rush the ends, with smaller, faster LBs like Zach Thomas to make the tackles.

[Rascal]

He likes his DE's to be tall, but not his DT's necessarily.

[youcandoit1687]

Originally Posted by Rascal

He likes his DE's to be tall, but not his DT's necessarily.

Okay, but if a DT is short and big, he's probably a good bit slower so why not get one that can carry more weight on his frame. Tank Tyler would be a nice pickup at 56 though, he is powerful.

[Drek]

Originally Posted by youcandoit1687

Okay, but if a DT is short and big, he's probably a good bit slower so why not get one that can carry more weight on his frame. Tank Tyler would be a nice pickup at 56 though, he is powerful.

All Bates really cares about is if they have the size and power to play two gap. You can't quibble over if a guy is 6'2" or 6'5" when you're shopping for 325+ pounders who have the strength to hold their ground against two NFL level OLs.

Tyler would be a great fit for Bates' scheme, so would Soliai. Walter Thomas could be, but would need tons of coaching. Brandon Mebane or Justin Harrell would both be interesting as well, neither really fits the mold perfectly but they do bring penetration skills Bates might be eager to make use of as a new wrinkle in his schemes. Branch obviously is the dream scenario, he's got the size and power to two gap without question, and the upside to be a real penetrating pass rush tackle if he ever actually gets serious and dedicates himself to football. I think landing here, with our veteran coaches and defensive roster with veterans who hold young guys accountable would really help him out. Especially playing next to Warren, who had his career on the brink due to lack of effort and is now doing everything he can to turn it around.

[phibacka31]

While I can't say how unbeliably happy I would be to see us draft Branch, I am leary of him. I don't like turds. Who knows though. I do know that Shanny knows best, even if that means ill be throwing my TV out the window.