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Old 04-04-2007, 10:25 PM   #1
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Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel, a free agent limited by the franchise tag, wants to be traded.

"This is to let everybody know that I'm not happy anymore and things are not going well," Samuel told Schefter. "At first I thought it was going well, but it's not. We have a difference of opinion in my value. They think I'm worth one price and the other teams think I'm worth a lot more. If a long-term deal can’t be done at fair numbers for me and New England, then I want to be traded."

Samuel says that he is prepared to sit out the season, if need be. "If it's best for me and my family," Samuel said, "I will do that. Absolutely."

Sure. Look, none of these franchise players is going to miss a paycheck. So look for Samuel to sign his tender on the eve of the start of the regular season, and collect game checks worth more than $458,000 each. That's almost as much as he made for the entire season in 2006.

The problem is that the Pats have shelled out plenty of money for multiple free agents in the past month, and Samuel has been paying close attention.

"I've been patient, haven't said anything bad, haven't said anything negative," Samuel said. "But my patience has run out. Business is business. They handled their business their way and I'm handling my business my way. I hope not, I really hope not, but it's looking more and more like it could be time to move on." (Or move out.)


This was pulled off PFT. I wonder how messy this will get?
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Who's Samuel's agent? I bet it's that Drew freakin guy.
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Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel, a free agent limited by the franchise tag, wants to be traded.

"This is to let everybody know that I'm not happy anymore and things are not going well," Samuel told Schefter. "At first I thought it was going well, but it's not. We have a difference of opinion in my value. They think I'm worth one price and the other teams think I'm worth a lot more. If a long-term deal can’t be done at fair numbers for me and New England, then I want to be traded."

Samuel says that he is prepared to sit out the season, if need be. "If it's best for me and my family," Samuel said, "I will do that. Absolutely."

Sure. Look, none of these franchise players is going to miss a paycheck. So look for Samuel to sign his tender on the eve of the start of the regular season, and collect game checks worth more than $458,000 each. That's almost as much as he made for the entire season in 2006.

The problem is that the Pats have shelled out plenty of money for multiple free agents in the past month, and Samuel has been paying close attention.

"I've been patient, haven't said anything bad, haven't said anything negative," Samuel said. "But my patience has run out. Business is business. They handled their business their way and I'm handling my business my way. I hope not, I really hope not, but it's looking more and more like it could be time to move on." (Or move out.)


This was pulled off PFT. I wonder how messy this will get?
This is what the Patriots get for diverting from their original formula. Paying someone else from another team a really high amount backfired on them when it comes to their own players.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:35 PM   #4
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There WILL be a report that the Redskins are interested in trading for Samuel before the weekend. Bet on it.
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Good for him. He should do whatever he thinks it takes to get the best deal for himself.
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Good for him. He should do whatever he thinks it takes to get the best deal for himself.
He's got to feed his family
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Samuel says that he is prepared to sit out the season, if need be. "If it's best for me and my family," Samuel said, "I will do that. Absolutely."

Sure. Look, none of these franchise players is going to miss a paycheck. So look for Samuel to sign his tender on the eve of the start of the regular season, and collect game checks worth more than $458,000 each. That's almost as much as he made for the entire season in 2006.
Poor guy.

In these hard times, who can get by on a mere half-million a week.

I really feel sorry for him.
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I know players can sit first 10 weeks, then show and get credit for the year. I doubt that Samual would do this though. He will need the money even though he feels it's not enough. Getting nothing is alot less.
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I know players can sit first 10 weeks, then show and get credit for the year. I doubt that Samual would do this though. He will need the money even though he feels it's not enough. Getting nothing is alot less.
The 10 week thing isnt an issue here, because its not like he has 1 year left on his contract and he is trying to get to free agency. He doesnt have a contract.
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Typical.....the players' union agrees to stuff like this and then the players b!tch when it happens to them. Ugh.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:53 PM   #11
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The 10 week thing isnt an issue here, because its not like he has 1 year left on his contract and he is trying to get to free agency. He doesnt have a contract.
You're wrong it does matter. If you get credit for year and they want to franchise you again the tag number goes up. If you use the tag on a player the 3rd time it goes to what they call qb money. It's no longer top 5 at your position and instead top 5 at any position. So if Samual sat out he would want to get credit for the year by showing up week 10. If Samual didn't get credit for the year then he would gain nothing by sitting out.
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This seems to come up every year for the Pats.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:23 PM   #13
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Typical.....the players' union agrees to stuff like this and then the players b!tch when it happens to them. Ugh.
In fairness, the players union agrees on it as a concession to the owners... You're not going to find a single player who likes the franchise tag rules.
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It's hard for me to cry for Samuel and Briggs with that much coin. Take out an insurance policy if your worried about injury then. 4.3 million in 10 games is alot of coin IMO.
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This could put a serious hurt on the Patsies. Cheers!
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Good for him. He should do whatever he thinks it takes to get the best deal for himself.
I agree 100%.
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:15 AM   #17
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I bet you do ( unless of course it's the Broncos) Hey how does Asante expect to live on a one year 7.7 million salary ? Unlike Branch at least this is happening before the draft. Calling Daniel Snyder
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Denver should trade for him he would be a great nickle back for the Broncos.
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I bet you do ( unless of course it's the Broncos) Hey how does Asante expect to live on a one year 7.7 million salary ? Unlike Branch at least this is happening before the draft. Calling Daniel Snyder
Most teams don't go through this every year with their better players. It appears the Pats have a history of not paying top value for their players not named Tom Brady. It works for the Pats so no one is blaming them, but is this type of situation going to become a yearly event for New England?
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I really have ahard time feeling sorry for Samuel and Briggs also, freakin' crybabies. You can spout all you want about "Gettin' mine" but in all honesty I can hardly bear it as a fan.

That one year of work would be like you or me working at our regular job for 40 years making about 200,000 per year. All for one year of work. Gotta feed them babies....

I think his real problem comes from Seeing Adalius Thomas get paid. The Pats finally paid for someone besides Brady. Samuel cashes in this year, and probably next. But history shows the Pats will probably let him go. As if they needed better draft picks with 2 already in the first round.
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Most teams don't go through this every year with their better players. It appears the Pats have a history of not paying top value for their players not named Tom Brady. It works for the Pats so no one is blaming them, but is this type of situation going to become a yearly event for New England?
It happened to Brady too. But he agreed to take less money so that they could keep talent around him. Instead they just don't pony up the cash for anyone. Brady isn't getting paid what he is worth.
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With the Niners and Clements deal this offseason... I wonder what Asante Samuel is asking for behind closed doors? 7.8 million is a ton of jack for us lamen but Samuel has his eyes on that 15 to 20 plus in guaranteed money.
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There WILL be a report that the Redskins are interested in trading for Samuel before the weekend. Bet on it.
Good Call!! Didn't even take till the weekend. Snyder is getting a bit predictable these last... few years.



As Per PFTOSTED 12:57 p.m. EDT, April 6, 2007

'SKINS TO MAKE A PLAY FOR SAMUEL?

Dan Snyder of the Washington Redskins can't help himself. Every offseason, he is compelled to make a big splash, in some way.

He didn't do it in free agency this year, for a change. So with a top-ten pick burning a hole in his draft board and Bears linebacker Lance Briggs (whom the 'Skins don't really need) not available via a flip-flip of first round picks, Snyder apparently will sniff around Pats cornerback Asante Samuel (whom the 'Skins don't really need).

Ryan O'Halloran of the Washington Times reports that the Redskins are expected to call the Patriots regarding Samuel, a free agent who has been slapped with the franchise tag.

The Redskins currently have cornerbacks Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot, and David Macklin under contract. Even if they trade or cut Springs, they don't need Samuel.

But Snyder can't help himself. He collects big-name players like Florio Jr. hoards McFarlane NFL figures, without regard to the manner in which his collection will interact on the field or in the locker room.

In hindsight, then, the decision of Samuel to recently go public with his dissatisfaction might have been a stroke of genius. With the Bears telling the Redskins that a flip-flop of first-round picks won't happen, the 'Skins need to find someone else to take the sixth overall pick off of their hands. And Samuel's comments apparently have caught Snyder's ear.

So for the No. 28 pick and Samuel, the Pats possibly could have the No. 6 overall pick. Heck, maybe they can also get the 'Skins to throw in Springs.

The question, then, is whether the Pats even want the No. 6 pick. If they do, the next question is whether the Patriots would try to package the No. 6 selection with the No. 24 pick (which they got from the Seahawks for Deion Branch) in an effort to move up to get once-in-a-generation receiver Calvin Johnson.
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I think I'll sh1T if the Patriots end up with 3 total 1st round picks.....
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