Offensive rankings Pre-draft - The Orange Mane

NW Bolt Fan · 04-01-2007, 03:26 PM

Obviously opinions will vary. But here's mine:

OFFENSE: Schemes aren't the same, so some positions, like FB, H-back, TE are tough to rank

QB= Rivers, Cutler, Huard, Walters
RB= LT, LJ, Henry, Jordan
RB2= Turner, Rhodes, Bell, Bennett
WR= Walker, Moss, Jackson, Kennison
WR2= Porter, Marshall, E. Parker, S. Parker
WR3= Curry, Stokley, Floyd, Hall
TE= Gates, Gonzalez, Scheffler, Anderson (recieving then blocking)
TE2= Graham, Manumaleuna, Dunn, Williams (blocking then recieiving)
FB= Neal, K. Wilson (H-back), Griffin, K. Johnson
LT= McNeil, Lepsis, Sims, McIntosh
LG= Dielman, Waters, Hamilton, Hulsey?
C= Nalen, Hardwick, Groves, Wiegman
RG= Shields, Goff, Carlisle, Boothe
RT= Pears, Gallery, Welbourne, Olivea,

I started doing the defense but with the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3, too many positions don't line up.

Blast away.

Hercules Rockefeller · 04-01-2007, 03:29 PM

You missed Lepsis at LT and at this point, Denver's RG spot should be left open.

chaz · 04-01-2007, 03:31 PM

lepsis is our LT, pears is at RT...dont think rod smith will be playing 3WR?? and why is carlisle at RG instead of Kuper?

NW Bolt Fan · 04-01-2007, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

You missed Lepsis at LT and at this point, Denver's RG spot should be left open.

Whoops. That I did. I fixed it, and stuck Pears at RT...

2KBack · 04-01-2007, 03:37 PM

I'd say not half bad coming from a rival fan.

Dukes · 04-01-2007, 03:37 PM

Is Jordan going to be able to keep the starting spot over Rhodes? I don't think so but it's a toss up at this point

WoodMan · 04-01-2007, 03:41 PM

Shields will likely retire. and maybe Weigmann too. Chefs are *****d.

NW Bolt Fan · 04-01-2007, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukes

Is Jordan going to be able to keep the starting spot over Rhodes? I don't think so but it's a toss up at this point

I heard/read somewhere that they're going to go with Jordan as the feature back, but that Rhodes will be getting plenty of supplemental carries. Seems like it'll work similar to Reggie Bush & Lendale White when Kiffin had them both at SC.

watermock · 04-01-2007, 04:43 PM

If Sapp is healthy, he will supplant Johnson at FB. I doubt he sees more than yoman's work at tailback.

Kaylore · 04-01-2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2KBack

I'd say not half bad coming from a rival fan.

No, pretty good. I thought Shields retired, though. I also think Scheffler is going to out perform Gonzo this year. I also think Kuper will emerge as a standout at guard.

elsid13 · 04-01-2007, 04:54 PM

not bad. I do think that Hamilton is the best LG in the AFCWEST, I don't think he get the press he should and is one of the better technician in the league. But overall it about right

RhymesayersDU · 04-01-2007, 05:05 PM

The interesting thing IMO is the WR positions here.

Moss has a ton of physical tools, but would you take a disinterested Moss with a terrible QB (or a rookie QB if they take Russell and start him) over Vincent Jackson with a good QB in Rivers?

Same goes for Porter. Great WR, but upset with the franchise and doesn't have an adequate QB.

If it's based off purely physical tools, then I agree with the WR rankings... But if it factors in the system, QB, and other variables, it could make for an interesting discussion. I mean, Moss has been a shell of what he was in Minnesota.

BlaK-Argentina · 04-01-2007, 06:05 PM

Pretty good! This kind of thread makes for a BIT more interesting offseason. More people should come up with stuff like this.

I agree with most of that except for Stokely over Smith. I think Rod will be the number 3, even number 2 if he is healthy and Marshall stumbles.

I hope by the end of next year we can say Cutler is better than Rivers.

kmartin575 · 04-01-2007, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NW Bolt Fan

Obviously opinions will vary. But here's mine:

OFFENSE: Schemes aren't the same, so some positions, like FB, H-back, TE are tough to rank

QB= Rivers, Cutler, Huard, Walters
RB= LT, LJ, Henry, Jordan
RB2= Turner, Rhodes, Bell, Bennett
WR= Walker, Moss, Jackson, Kennison
WR2= Porter, Marshall, E. Parker, S. Parker
WR3= Curry, Stokley, Floyd, Hall
TE= Gates, Gonzalez, Scheffler, Anderson (recieving then blocking)
TE2= Graham, Manumaleuna, Dunn, Williams (blocking then recieiving)
FB= Neal, K. Wilson (H-back), Griffin, K. Johnson
LT= McNeil, Lepsis, Sims, McIntosh
LG= Dielman, Waters, Hamilton, Hulsey?
C= Nalen, Hardwick, Groves, Wiegman
RG= Shields, Goff, Carlisle, Boothe
RT= Pears, Gallery, Welbourne, Olivea,

I started doing the defense but with the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3, too many positions don't line up.

Blast away.

QB: Rivers, Cutler, Croyle, whoever Oakland lines up at QB
RB: LT, LJ, Travis Henry, Lamont Jordan
RB2: Michael Turner, Dominic Rhodes, Michael Bennett, Mike Bell
FB: Lorenzo Neal, Justin Griffith, Kris Wilson, Kyle Johnson
TE: Gates, Gonzalez, Scheffler, Oakland's TE
WR: Walker, Moss, Kennison, Jackson
WR2: Porter, Eric Parker, Brandon Marshall, Samie Parker
LT: McNeill, Lepsis, McIntosh, Gallery/Sims
LG: Waters, Dielman, Hamilton, Oakland's LG
C: Hardwick, Nalen, Wiegmann, Grove
RG: Shields, Goff, Carlisle, Boothe
RT: Olivea, Terry, Meadows, Oakland's RT

kmartin575 · 04-01-2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

No, pretty good. I thought Shields retired, though. I also think Scheffler is going to out perform Gonzo this year. I also think Kuper will emerge as a standout at guard.

Wow you are a homer.

kmartin575 · 04-01-2007, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elsid13

not bad. I do think that Hamilton is the best LG in the AFCWEST, I don't think he get the press he should and is one of the better technician in the league. But overall it about right

Better than pro bowler Brian Waters and up and coming guard Dielman? I don't think so.

400HZ · 04-01-2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmartin575

Wow you are a homer.

Did Shields retire yet?

400HZ · 04-01-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NW Bolt Fan

Obviously opinions will vary. But here's mine:

OFFENSE: Schemes aren't the same, so some positions, like FB, H-back, TE are tough to rank

QB= Rivers, Cutler, Huard, Walters
RB= LT, LJ, Henry, Jordan
RB2= Turner, Rhodes, Bell, Bennett
WR= Walker, Moss, Jackson, Kennison
WR2= Porter, Marshall, E. Parker, S. Parker
WR3= Curry, Stokley, Floyd, Hall
TE= Gates, Gonzalez, Scheffler, Anderson (recieving then blocking)
TE2= Graham, Manumaleuna, Dunn, Williams (blocking then recieiving)
FB= Neal, K. Wilson (H-back), Griffin, K. Johnson
LT= McNeil, Lepsis, Sims, McIntosh
LG= Dielman, Waters, Hamilton, Hulsey?
C= Nalen, Hardwick, Groves, Wiegman
RG= Shields, Goff, Carlisle, Boothe
RT= Pears, Gallery, Welbourne, Olivea,

I started doing the defense but with the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3, too many positions don't line up.

Blast away.

I'd put Huard over Cutler at this point. The WR thing is a mess because most of those guys either don't want to play or haven't proven anything yet. McIntosh ahead of Sims. Hardwick ahead of Nalen. Definetely Wiegman over Groves. Gallery shouldn't be ahead of anybody.

kmartin575 · 04-01-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 400HZ

Did Shields retire yet?

Not yet. I think he will retire but there has not been an announcement yet. If he does retire it would definitely shake up the rankings at right guard.

elsid13 · 04-01-2007, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmartin575

Better than pro bowler Brian Waters and up and coming guard Dielman? I don't think so.

It pretty obvious you're not much a thinker, so post like this don't impress me or anyone else much. Ran back to Crap planet and leave us alone.

400HZ · 04-01-2007, 08:03 PM

My all AFC West 4-3 D would be

LE Merriman
LT Sapp
RT Jamal Williams
RE Allen
WLB DJ Williams
MLB Wilson
SLB Oakland guy I think
CB Bailey
CB Asmougha
FS Lynch
SS don't know maybe. Young KC guy maybe.

400HZ · 04-01-2007, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elsid13

It pretty obvious you're not much a thinker, so post like this don't impress me or anyone else much. Ran back to Crap planet and leave us alone.

Waters and Dielman are clearly better than Hamilton.

kmartin575 · 04-01-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elsid13

It pretty obvious you're not much a thinker, so post like this don't impress me or anyone else much. Ran back to Crap planet and leave us alone.

I don't post on Chiefs planet.

SureShot · 04-01-2007, 09:25 PM

You should start. You will like it. Maybe Boob can show you around.

Kaylore · 04-01-2007, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmartin575

Wow you are a homer.

Gonzo is playing on a Herm-style run-every-first-and-second-down team that will probably have to keep him in to block on passing downs because the line sucks so bad. Scheffler is younger and following his production from the games he started, could very easily out-produce Gonzo with weak-armed, no-line Huard or Brodie Frayle at the helm.

Chris Kuper is a stud. You don't know anything about him at all, so really you're (predictably) full of crap and tracking your poo-stain into this thread.

04-01-2007, 03:26 PM	#1
NW Bolt Fan Ring of Famer San Diego, AFC WEST CHAMPS Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,165	Offensive rankings Pre-draft Obviously opinions will vary. But here's mine: OFFENSE: Schemes aren't the same, so some positions, like FB, H-back, TE are tough to rank QB= Rivers, Cutler, Huard, Walters RB= LT, LJ, Henry, Jordan RB2= Turner, Rhodes, Bell, Bennett WR= Walker, Moss, Jackson, Kennison WR2= Porter, Marshall, E. Parker, S. Parker WR3= Curry, Stokley, Floyd, Hall TE= Gates, Gonzalez, Scheffler, Anderson (recieving then blocking) TE2= Graham, Manumaleuna, Dunn, Williams (blocking then recieiving) FB= Neal, K. Wilson (H-back), Griffin, K. Johnson LT= McNeil, Lepsis, Sims, McIntosh LG= Dielman, Waters, Hamilton, Hulsey? C= Nalen, Hardwick, Groves, Wiegman RG= Shields, Goff, Carlisle, Boothe RT= Pears, Gallery, Welbourne, Olivea, I started doing the defense but with the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3, too many positions don't line up. Blast away. Last edited by NW Bolt Fan; 04-01-2007 at 03:31 PM..

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

04-01-2007, 03:29 PM	#2
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	You missed Lepsis at LT and at this point, Denver's RG spot should be left open.

04-01-2007, 03:31 PM	#3
chaz highly touted recruit Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,455 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Bruton	lepsis is our LT, pears is at RT...dont think rod smith will be playing 3WR?? and why is carlisle at RG instead of Kuper?

04-01-2007, 03:37 PM	#5
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	I'd say not half bad coming from a rival fan.

04-01-2007, 03:37 PM	#6
Dukes Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,317	Is Jordan going to be able to keep the starting spot over Rhodes? I don't think so but it's a toss up at this point

04-01-2007, 03:41 PM	#7
WoodMan Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gulf Coast of Mississippi Posts: 1,327	Shields will likely retire. and maybe Weigmann too. Chefs are *****d.

04-01-2007, 04:43 PM	#9
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	If Sapp is healthy, he will supplant Johnson at FB. I doubt he sees more than yoman's work at tailback.

04-01-2007, 04:54 PM	#11
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,097	not bad. I do think that Hamilton is the best LG in the AFCWEST, I don't think he get the press he should and is one of the better technician in the league. But overall it about right

04-01-2007, 05:05 PM	#12
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,815 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	The interesting thing IMO is the WR positions here. Moss has a ton of physical tools, but would you take a disinterested Moss with a terrible QB (or a rookie QB if they take Russell and start him) over Vincent Jackson with a good QB in Rivers? Same goes for Porter. Great WR, but upset with the franchise and doesn't have an adequate QB. If it's based off purely physical tools, then I agree with the WR rankings... But if it factors in the system, QB, and other variables, it could make for an interesting discussion. I mean, Moss has been a shell of what he was in Minnesota.

04-01-2007, 06:05 PM	#13
BlaK-Argentina Pampita says... ... support your team! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina. Posts: 5,174 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Pretty good! This kind of thread makes for a BIT more interesting offseason. More people should come up with stuff like this. I agree with most of that except for Stokely over Smith. I think Rod will be the number 3, even number 2 if he is healthy and Marshall stumbles. I hope by the end of next year we can say Cutler is better than Rivers.

04-01-2007, 08:03 PM	#21
400HZ Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,345 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ed Hochuli	My all AFC West 4-3 D would be LE Merriman LT Sapp RT Jamal Williams RE Allen WLB DJ Williams MLB Wilson SLB Oakland guy I think CB Bailey CB Asmougha FS Lynch SS don't know maybe. Young KC guy maybe.

04-01-2007, 09:25 PM	#24
SureShot Te-believer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paradise Divide Posts: 5,996 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Russell	You should start. You will like it. Maybe Boob can show you around.