DARIUS WATTS sighting ... - The Orange Mane

BroncoBuff · 03-24-2007, 04:46 AM

I didn't know the Giants had picked him up last season.

Actually, though nobody around here is talking much about it, our #3 WR spot looks truly horrifying:

Rod Smith will be coming off his first serious injury at 37 ... and without any off-season conditioning ...
David Kircus caught only nine passes all year- and I think 6 of them were in the first three games ...
Brandon Stokely is coming off an injury and perhaps on the downside ...
Brian Clark is completely unproven and looks a bit too wide-eyed to me so far ...
Quincy Morgan seems intriguing, but why did the Steelers let him go mid-season?
Domanik Hixon spent his rookie year on IR.

I never thought I'd be pining for the days of the David Terell/Darius Watts/Todd Devoe trio ....

baja · 03-24-2007, 04:51 AM

Maybe he will be part of the trade for Al.

Blueflame · 03-24-2007, 04:55 AM

A valid argument could be made that Brandon Marshall looks pretty good at #3, Buff...

(last I heard, he hadn't yet beaten Rod for the #2 slot... )

BroncoBuff · 03-24-2007, 04:55 AM

Exactly, Blue - Shanahan always said he was "impossible" to cover....

I think the #3 WR spot for the Broncos might be cursed. Not 'cursed' as in Browns first-round drfat picks, but cursed somehow.

And another thing: Next to anthonypacino and maybe Ratboy, I'm as big a Brandon Marshall fan as there is around here ... I think he'll be better than Javon in a year or two. But the fact is, he is completely unproven in this league. This roster actually has a total of ONE - count them - ONE - experienced, healthy, productive wide receiver. And, tragic as it is, that one WR might be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

When you look close, our WR picture is a complete mess.

Blueflame · 03-24-2007, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Exactly, Blue - Shanahan always said he was "impossible" to cover....

I think the #3 WR spot for the Broncos might be cursed. Not 'cursed' as in Browns first-round drfat picks, but cursed somehow.

And another thing: Next to anthonypacino and maybe Ratboy, I'm as big a Brandon Marshall fan as there is around here ... I think he'll be better than Javon in a year or two. But the fact is, he is completely unproven in this league. This roster actually has a total of ONE - count them - ONE - experienced, healthy, productive wide receiver. And, tragic as it is, that one WR might be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

When you look close, our WR picture is a complete mess.

Honestly.... it's my opinion that they'll be fine once they're through training camp and a preseason game or two. But then, I'm an optimist.

chrisp · 03-24-2007, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

though nobody around here is talking much about it, our #3 WR spot looks truly horrifying:

I think you're getting a little hysterical here...

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Rod Smith will be coming off his first serious injury at 37 ... and without any off-season conditioning ...

I'll admit that is a concern - but if anyone can keep going and contribute this season it's Rod, so its not like he's defnitely done.

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David Kircus caught only nine passes all year- and I think 6 of them were in the first three games ...

Don't forget that under jake the snake even Javon only occasionally got a look-in. The passing game sputtered untill Cutler took over.

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Brandon Stokely is coming off an injury and perhaps on the downside...

He should be fine - we wouldn't have signed him if he didn't check out medically

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Brian Clark is completely unproven and looks a bit too wide-eyed to me so far ...

Well most of your #3's in the league are unproven - that's why they're #3's! When they become 'proven' they go on to be #1's & #2's!

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Quincy Morgan seems intriguing, but why did the Steelers let him go mid-season?

They let him go becuase they felt they had other people who could fill in at the same spots, no big deal or dark secret with him, he just lost out in the shuffle. He's done well for us so far and is going to have a legitimate shot at a roster spot.

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Domanik Hixon spent his rookie year on IR.

...and he should be healthy now. Admittedly he may be more of a kick-returner but he is young with plenty of speed.

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I never thought I'd be pining for the days of the David Terell/Darius Watts/Todd Devoe trio ....

Well if you are then you have lost your mind, sir - none of the guys you mention were any better than any of the guys we have now:

David Terrel: Major first-round bust who did nothing for us in two seasons - or anybody else for that matter

Darius Watts: Dropped everything thrown his way. Outstanding route running and YAC ability but he just couldn't catch the damn ball. Just becuase he's hanging by his fingertips to another team's roster doesn't mean he's got over that

Todd Devoe: unless I'm mistaken, this guy did actually catch a few balls and even make a play or two for us, yet he was still beaten out fair and square in camp last offseason by some of the guys who you are now saying aren't worth a damn...

Remember, none of these guys have to get 1000 yards, and with the number of 2 TE sets we will run I would be truly surprised if our #3 got as much action as other teams will - you should really think fo Sheffler as our #3 WR even though he's a TE......

And if Stokely is fully recovered as he should be, then this discussion is over. The only way we are fretting about the #3 slot is if NEITHER Rod OR Brandon are healthy....and chances are at least one of them will be by the time the season kicks off....

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-24-2007, 05:12 AM

Dominik Hixon is going to suprise some people.

BroncoBuff · 03-24-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisp

with the number of 2 TE sets we will run I would be truly surprised if our #3 got as much action as other teams will - you should really think fo Sheffler as our #3 WR even though he's a TE......

Those are excellent points, thanks, I feel a little better. And after all, all Graham talked about was wanting to get more balls thrown his way, so Shanny probably made soime assurances in that regard to get him signed up ... and you're right, Scheffler can really fly and he has great hands.

Don't look for many trips or 4-wideout sets, though.

watermock · 03-24-2007, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Exactly, Blue - Shanahan always said he was "impossible" to cover....

I think the #3 WR spot for the Broncos might be cursed. Not 'cursed' as in Browns first-round drfat picks, but cursed somehow.

And another thing: Next to anthonypacino and maybe Ratboy, I'm as big a Brandon Marshall fan as there is around here ... I think he'll be better than Javon in a year or two. But the fact is, he is completely unproven in this league. This roster actually has a total of ONE - count them - ONE - experienced, healthy, productive wide receiver. And, tragic as it is, that one WR might be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

When you look close, our WR picture is a complete mess.

It's hard to say about Hixon, but The Marshall will be a star IMO. If we get to #2, I would want Calvin.

watermock · 03-24-2007, 05:27 AM

Buff

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And another thing: Next to anthonypacino and maybe Ratboy, I'm as big a Brandon Marshall fan as there is around here ... I think he'll be better than Javon in a year or two. But the fact is, he is completely unproven in this league. This roster actually has a total of ONE - count them - ONE - experienced, healthy, productive wide receiver. And, tragic as it is, that one WR might be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

I doubt anyone ever gets over a friend dying in your arms completely. If the No Fun League prevents the Broncos from wearing black bands I will go postal. Dedicate the season to them and get a ring. The altercation at the club is still unclear...if Javon was involved it will quadruple his angst.

TheDave · 03-24-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by baja fan

Maybe he will be part of the trade for Al.

You have got to let this go....

Sir Mawn · 03-24-2007, 11:46 AM

I can live with Walker, Marshall, Smith, Kircus and Stockley, especially with Graham and Scheffler in the inside and Travis carrying the rock.

Broncojef · 03-24-2007, 12:20 PM

I think our WR core looks alot better than I can remember in some time now. Kircus, Smith and Stokely...nah we're fine.

BlaK-Argentina · 03-24-2007, 01:36 PM

WR is really the position I'm less worried about. Javon is a top 10 WR, and he's still young. Marshall, I have NO DOUBT that he'll be a very, very, very good WR. Rod, for the first time I'm a bit worried about him, but I bet he plays and does a great job, as usual. Stokely should be healthy and even if he has lost a step, he should be a pretty good number 3, and a great slot guy. Kircus has shown some flashes and I'd be cool with him as the number 3, so I think he can do some good things. Morgan can contribute as a WR if he has too, but his place in Special Teams is what will give him a roster spot.
Hixon and Clark... well, I have no idea what will happen with them, but if we go with: Walker, Marshall, Smith, Stokely, Kircus, Morgan... well... I think that's pretty good.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 03-24-2007, 02:29 PM

WR is still a soft spot in the roster. With the addition of Stokley I doubt the Broncs draft on on the first day unless someone they really like falls in their lap, but I do expect them to take on on the second day to keep on the practice squad. Hixon could be the PS guy, but I am guessing he makes the roster.

Rascal · 03-24-2007, 02:41 PM

Sad when Watts will pass a physical but Al Wilson cannot.

Kaylore · 03-24-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Actually, though nobody around here is talking much about it, our #3 WR spot looks truly horrifying:

Some of you guys are totally off base on this.

These guys will be our number three receivers:

We needn't worry, my friends.

BroncoBuff · 03-24-2007, 07:31 PM

Yeah ... Scheffler can fly, has great hands, and chemistry with Cutler.

And we all know Graham wants to CATCH MORE BALLS. That's all he talked about on his 'mini-tour' of the west coast and here. So I'm guesing Shanny made some assurances there.

I like the TEs, Khan - no doubt. But I keep remembering that Javon is the ONLY healthy, experienced WR we have ... and last I heard, it sounds like he's suffering from PTSD.

SureShot · 03-24-2007, 07:43 PM

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and last I heard, it sounds like he's suffering from PTSD.

I guess I haven't heard that. Please tell me why you think that.

BroncoBuff · 03-24-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SureShot7

I guess I haven't heard that. Please tell me why you think that.

Based upon missing the funeral, and countless stories about his difficult moments. The severity of a PTSD diagnosis has widely varying levels. I might be overstated with that term, but word is he had/is having serious coping problems.

Rascal · 03-24-2007, 08:45 PM

You have no basis to state that crap, and I doubt you have any experience in it.

Have you ever had some one die in your arms? I have, and what has been reported reguarding Javon is not PTSD because I know.

Merlin · 03-24-2007, 08:49 PM

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Don't forget that under jake the snake even Javon only occasionally got a look-in. The passing game sputtered untill Cutler took over.

It is idiotic comments like this that can ruin a decent post. Not only does it make you lose credibility, but one has to wonder if all you have to say is to repeat the common mantra.

Many players improved under Cutler but for ONE, and that would be Javon. His passes per game went down, his TDs per game went down, his yds per catch went down...finally he went from a potential pro-bowl season to a good season. Was it because Cutler was inferior? No, the game plan and QB changed so his game was affected. I'm sure he will put up great numbers with JC next season, but there was no need to fictionalize the pass to either get a hit on Plummer and/or to justify your argument (i.e. you didn't need your Javon comment tor prove your point).

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03-24-2007, 04:46 AM	#1
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	DARIUS WATTS sighting ... I didn't know the Giants had picked him up last season. Actually, though nobody around here is talking much about it, our #3 WR spot looks truly horrifying: Rod Smith will be coming off his first serious injury at 37 ... and without any off-season conditioning ... David Kircus caught only nine passes all year- and I think 6 of them were in the first three games ... Brandon Stokely is coming off an injury and perhaps on the downside ... Brian Clark is completely unproven and looks a bit too wide-eyed to me so far ... Quincy Morgan seems intriguing, but why did the Steelers let him go mid-season? Domanik Hixon spent his rookie year on IR. I never thought I'd be pining for the days of the David Terell/Darius Watts/Todd Devoe trio ....

03-24-2007, 04:51 AM	#2
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Maybe he will be part of the trade for Al.

03-24-2007, 04:55 AM	#3
Blueflame Miss Congeniality Welcome to Peyton's Place Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in my cups... lol Posts: 33,038 Adopt-a-Bronco: Randy Gradishar	A valid argument could be made that Brandon Marshall looks pretty good at #3, Buff... (last I heard, he hadn't yet beaten Rod for the #2 slot... )

03-24-2007, 05:12 AM	#7
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Dominik Hixon is going to suprise some people.

03-24-2007, 11:46 AM	#12
Sir Mawn Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mexico City Posts: 1,926	I can live with Walker, Marshall, Smith, Kircus and Stockley, especially with Graham and Scheffler in the inside and Travis carrying the rock.

03-24-2007, 12:20 PM	#13
Broncojef Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Great White North Posts: 3,020	I think our WR core looks alot better than I can remember in some time now. Kircus, Smith and Stokely...nah we're fine.

03-24-2007, 01:36 PM	#14
BlaK-Argentina Pampita says... ... support your team! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina. Posts: 5,174 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	WR is really the position I'm less worried about. Javon is a top 10 WR, and he's still young. Marshall, I have NO DOUBT that he'll be a very, very, very good WR. Rod, for the first time I'm a bit worried about him, but I bet he plays and does a great job, as usual. Stokely should be healthy and even if he has lost a step, he should be a pretty good number 3, and a great slot guy. Kircus has shown some flashes and I'd be cool with him as the number 3, so I think he can do some good things. Morgan can contribute as a WR if he has too, but his place in Special Teams is what will give him a roster spot. Hixon and Clark... well, I have no idea what will happen with them, but if we go with: Walker, Marshall, Smith, Stokely, Kircus, Morgan... well... I think that's pretty good.

03-24-2007, 02:29 PM	#15
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	WR is still a soft spot in the roster. With the addition of Stokley I doubt the Broncs draft on on the first day unless someone they really like falls in their lap, but I do expect them to take on on the second day to keep on the practice squad. Hixon could be the PS guy, but I am guessing he makes the roster.

03-24-2007, 02:41 PM	#16
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Sad when Watts will pass a physical but Al Wilson cannot.

03-24-2007, 07:31 PM	#18
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Yeah ... Scheffler can fly, has great hands, and chemistry with Cutler. And we all know Graham wants to CATCH MORE BALLS. That's all he talked about on his 'mini-tour' of the west coast and here. So I'm guesing Shanny made some assurances there. I like the TEs, Khan - no doubt. But I keep remembering that Javon is the ONLY healthy, experienced WR we have ... and last I heard, it sounds like he's suffering from PTSD.

03-24-2007, 08:45 PM	#21
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	You have no basis to state that crap, and I doubt you have any experience in it. Have you ever had some one die in your arms? I have, and what has been reported reguarding Javon is not PTSD because I know.