Marshall Faulk blasts Jay Cutler

[ukbroncosfan]

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Marshall Faulk took Jay Cutler to the wood shed for his ability to check down and hit the short receiver and staring down his target.

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Lombardi: Is it safe to say you like more of a vertical attack? Get the ball downfield?

Cutler: Yeah. I think with the people we have around us, Javon (Walker) and Rod (Smith) and Brandon Marshall. I think we have some guys who can attack downfield and make some big plays for us. I think we were trying to hit underneath (last season) and I kind of wanted to stretch it out. I think you need a good combination of everything.

This comment worries me. Rex Grossman comes to mind.

[Broncosfreak_56]

He made typical rookie errors. He is a smart kid and will only learn from his mistakes and get better.

[ukbroncosfan]

Originally Posted by Broncosfreak_56

He made typical rookie errors. He is a smart kid and will only learn from his mistakes and get better.

Are they typical rookie errors or gunslinger mentality mistakes?

[Odysseus]

Marshall Faulk isn't saying anything that half the league already knows. He's right and the really talented defensive backs are going to make him pay. He should take this warning and run with it instead of locking up like Jake used to do.

Jay Cutler is exactly like Jake Plummer except for he has all the throws, stronger arm, better accuracy, taller, thicker, smarter, younger, less experienced, and probably has a better left handed pass. Every interception he throws is because that is what Jake taught him how to do. Jay never threw a single interception in his career until he hooked up with Jake Plummer.

My biggest knocks on Cutler is he doesn't know how to look off the safety, never takes the easy open man, and he doesn't have real confidence in his receivers...yet. A lot of this stuff is rookie stuff. He's got a lot of time to fix this stuff NOW during the off season if he wants.

All that reading in college. I hope he learns how to read a defense.

[CoBear23]

Originally Posted by ukbroncosfan

http://www.nfl.com/

Click Video

NFL Total Access looks at the state of the Broncos

Marshall Faulk took Jay Cutler to the wood shed for his ability to check down and hit the short receiver and staring down his target.

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/local_...075153616.html

Lombardi: Is it safe to say you like more of a vertical attack? Get the ball downfield?

Cutler: Yeah. I think with the people we have around us, Javon (Walker) and Rod (Smith) and Brandon Marshall. I think we have some guys who can attack downfield and make some big plays for us. I think we were trying to hit underneath (last season) and I kind of wanted to stretch it out. I think you need a good combination of everything.

This comment worries me. Rex Grossman comes to mind.

Cutler did make several mistakes and Faulk called him out on them, Faulk said he needs to improve, he does. If your an NFL player being critqued is part of the job and I would bet that Cutler's own self-assessment is much harsher than Faulk's.

[fontaine]

Originally Posted by quiettiger

Marshall Faulk isn't saying anything that half the league already knows. He's right and the really talented defensive backs are going to make him pay. He should take this warning and run with it instead of locking up like Jake used to do.

Jay Cutler is exactly like Jake Plummer except for he has all the throws, stronger arm, better accuracy, taller, thicker, smarter, younger, less experienced, and probably has a better left handed pass. Every interception he throws is because that is what Jake taught him how to do. Jay never threw a single interception in his career until he hooked up with Jake Plummer.
My biggest knocks on Cutler is he doesn't know how to look off the safety, doesn't take the easy open man, and he doesn't have real confidence in his receivers yet. A lot of this stuff is rookie stuff. He's got a lot of time to fix this stuff if he wants. All that reading in college. I hope he learns how to read a defense.

Good post. Cutler showed off his arm strength and his ability to force passes in tight spaces last year. For a rookie he played very well.

The real test is, like you said quiettiger, if he can adjust to the pro-game where checkdowns, going through progressions is far more important than just having a strong arm where he can rifle passes in there.

It was telling that Shanahan worked this kid off the shotgun a lot last season so he could easily read defenses. On one hand it shows that Cutler is relying on pre-snap reads and trying to work out different defenses, on the other hand it's interesting he had to get in the shotgun to do it easier.

Time will tell if this kid is progressing and it's going to be his ability to make pre-snap reads, go through his progressions that will dictate whether he can be a franchise type QB instead of just another three/four year fix.

[MechanicalBull]

I don't disagree with what Faulk said at all. Cutler isn't going to come in and be all world right off the start. He made some mistakes last year and hopefully he is working on correcting them.

[theAPAOps5]

He ripped him for being a typical rookie QB. We will probably see some more of this at least early in the season. Guess what so did Cut That Meat, Elway, Brett Farve and every good QB. The good ones watch tape and learn. Lets hope Cutler is one of the good ones like we think.

[-Slap-]

At least Jay Cutler isn't great on Astroturf and barely mediocre on grass.

Like Marshall Faulk.

[Dedhed]

Originally Posted by quiettiger

My biggest knocks on Cutler is he doesn't know how to look off the safety,

I guess you missed the game where they show the end zone view of Cutler, and you can see him looking right at the safety until right before he pulls the trigger. The one where Simms says "Oh, great job looking off the safety. Cutler's looking over the middle and waits until the last second to look and throw the backside in cut".

[Garcia Bronco]

I have have seen him hold the safety with his gaze.

[WABronco]

That's all he freakin' did in the first few games...

[ukbroncosfan]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

At least Jay Cutler isn't great on Astroturf and barely mediocre on grass.

Like Marshall Faulk.

It's refreshing to hear an objective opinion. The Denver fans and media are hyping up Cutler like Tony Romo in Dallas.

If Cutler managed the game the Broncos would have made the playoffs. Jimmy Johnson was on the radio and said he wants a QB who does not make the big mistake. Cutler made the big mistake against Seattle and the 49ers and it cost us the playoffs. Not to mention the pick 6 against Arizona in preseason and he was lucky not to have a pick 6 against the Bengals. I thought he never made the same mistake twice?

[-Slap-]

Originally Posted by ukbroncosfan

It's refreshing to hear an objective opinion. The Denver fans and media are hyping up Cutler like Tony Romo in Dallas.

If Cutler managed the game the Broncos would have made the playoffs. Jimmy Johnson was on the radio and said he wants a QB who does not make the big mistake. Cutler made the big mistake against Seattle and the 49ers and it cost us the playoffs. Not to mention the pick 6 against Arizona in preseason and he was lucky not to have a pick 6 against the Bengals. I thought he never made the same mistake twice?

Its also too bad Javon Walker dropped the ball that would have won the San Francisco game in regulation. I guess Cutler should have caught the ball for him, too.

[Ratboy]

Take it with a grain of salt.

[Willynowei]

If marshall faulk broke down film of Ben Rothlesberger on the Steelers superbowl run, you would see as many bad throws as Jay Cutler could ever throw. But when you have an arm like Rothlesberger's, and a bunch of defenses that kept choking *COUGH DENVER*, you can definitely get by with the rocket arm. (Man, we must've dropped 5 ints that game).

Anyways, Cutler forced a lot of throws last year, faulk was right to pick them out, but the funny thing is, he also made a lot of big plays that should've been picks, simply due to arm strength.

As long as the kid works hard though, every last problem will disappear in a year or two.

[Ratboy]

Why hasn't he talked Uncle Rico and Leinart? Cutler played much better then both of them.

IMO Shanahan was experiementing on what he can/cannot do. Jay knows what he can do and we're FINALLY building an offense around the QB. We're going to be elite on offense for years to come.

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by Dedhed

I guess you missed the game where they show the end zone view of Cutler, and you can see him looking right at the safety until right before he pulls the trigger. The one where Simms says "Oh, great job looking off the safety. Cutler's looking over the middle and waits until the last second to look and throw the backside in cut".

When I first saw Cutler I thought he was a lot better than he was. Exactly what part of gazing at the safety tricks the safety? Shouldn't he check down as well? Seeing the whole field doesn't mean staring at one guy. I'd play poker with him. He'll hesitate. He's got a couple of tells that let you know exactly where he's going. If a team gets a pass rush on him he'll give up some information.

The fun part of all this is Cutler is smart. There is a lot of time for him to improve, makes changes and get after this thing. Anyone angry with Faulk needs to pull their homer hat up, take their fingers out of their ears and stop singing la, la, la, la...because it's all true.

[alkemical]

Oh, i thought this was going to be a big deal.

So what, he was a rook played in 5 games.

I liked how Vince Young won games, and Matt was pretty decent too.


What i see with cutler is he's going to get himself in a jam from time to time with his arm. I'll take a 40yd into now and then, it's better than a tom rouen shanked punt.

[watermock]

[QUOTE=quiettiger;1521849]Marshall Faulk isn't saying anything that half the league already knows. He's right and the really talented defensive backs are going to make him pay. He should take this warning and run with it instead of locking up like Jake used to do.

Jay Cutler is exactly like Jake Plummer except for he has all the throws, stronger arm, better accuracy, taller, thicker, smarter, younger, less experienced, and probably has a better left handed pass. Every interception he throws is because that is what Jake taught him how to do. Jay never threw a single interception in his career until he hooked up with Jake Plummer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEAHf0NZHs&NR.yet. A lot of this stuff is rookie stuff. He's got a lot of time to fix this stuff NOW during the off season if he wants.

All that reading in college. I hope he learns how to read a defense.

He had an 88 rating, Jake around 70. Next.

[theAPAOps5]

Originally Posted by ukbroncosfan

It's refreshing to hear an objective opinion. The Denver fans and media are hyping up Cutler like Tony Romo in Dallas.

If Cutler managed the game the Broncos would have made the playoffs. Jimmy Johnson was on the radio and said he wants a QB who does not make the big mistake. Cutler made the big mistake against Seattle and the 49ers and it cost us the playoffs. Not to mention the pick 6 against Arizona in preseason and he was lucky not to have a pick 6 against the Bengals. I thought he never made the same mistake twice?

You sir are an idiot. The dude played with a concussion for most the game. The Snake came in and lofted up an INT. Guess that was managing the game too. Didn't want to say it but 100 post rule.

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by Ratboy

Why hasn't he talked Uncle Rico and Leinart? Cutler played much better then both of them.

IMO Shanahan was experiementing on what he can/cannot do. Jay knows what he can do and we're FINALLY building an offense around the QB. We're going to be elite on offense for years to come.

Shanahan is like a kid in candy store. He is going to experiment with this kid for several years because there is no telling where a smart QB with a cannon can do in our offense. This is going to be the first year in awhile Shanahan get to take the gloves off.

[Requiem]

Don't see anything wrong with Marshall giving advice and constructive criticism on Jay.

[orinjkrush]

i just hope Cutler improves to about middlling of the NFL QB pack this year, his first full year. that should be acceptable. anything above that is gravy.

[sirhcyennek81]

Originally Posted by ukbroncosfan

It's refreshing to hear an objective opinion. The Denver fans and media are hyping up Cutler like Tony Romo in Dallas.

If Cutler managed the game the Broncos would have made the playoffs. Jimmy Johnson was on the radio and said he wants a QB who does not make the big mistake. Cutler made the big mistake against Seattle and the 49ers and it cost us the playoffs. Not to mention the pick 6 against Arizona in preseason and he was lucky not to have a pick 6 against the Bengals. I thought he never made the same mistake twice?

He managed the games vs Seattle, SD and San Fran until we had to force things, and he put up a show. Our defense faded down the stretch and was not able to stop the friggin 49ers of all teams to run the ball down the defense's throat. Hardly Jay's fault.