'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby - The Orange Mane

Ratboy · 03-20-2007, 03:05 PM

Tiny, fluffy and adorable, Knut the baby polar bear became an animal superstar after he was abandoned by his mother.

He rapidly became the symbol of Berlin Zoo, whose staff bottle-fed him and handed out cuddles in between

When Knut was born last December his mother ignored him, zoo officials intervened and chose to raise him themselves

At three months old, however, the playful 19lb bundle of fur is at the centre of an impassioned debate over whether he should live or die.

Animal rights activists argue that he should be given a lethal injection rather than brought up suffering the humiliation of being treated as a domestic pet.

Activists argue that it is inappropriate for a predator, known for its fierceness and ability to fend for itself in the wild, to be snuggled

"The zoo must kill the bear," said spokesman Frank Albrecht. "Feeding by hand is not species-appropriate but a gross violation of animal protection laws."

When Knut was born in December, his mother ignored him and his brother, who died. Zoo officials intervened, choosing to raise the cub themselves.

But Albrecht and other activists fret that it is inappropriate for a predator, known for its fierceness and ability to fend for itself in the wild, to be snuggled, bottle-fed and made into a commodity by zookeepers.

They argue that current treatment of the cub is inhumane and could cause him future difficulties interacting with fellow polar bears. "They cannot domesticate a wild animal," added Ruediger Schmiedel, head of the Foundation for Bears.

The charity cites a similar case of a baby sloth which was put to sleep after being abandoned by its mother last December in the Leipzig city zoo.

But Berlin Zoo holds different opinions. Its chief vet Andre Schuele says the activists' criticisms would make him angry if he could take them seriously. "Polar bears live alone in the wild. I see no logical reason why this bear should be killed."

Schuele also argued that given the increased rarity of wild polar bears, it makes sense to keep them alive in captivity so that they can be bred. "Polar bears are under threat of extinction, and if we feed the bear with a bottle, it has a good chance of growing up and perhaps becoming attractive as a stud for other zoos," he said.

Knut, who recently made the official A-list when he was pictured by celebrity photographer Annie Leibovitz for an environmental protection campaign, is scheduled to make his public debut at the zoo in the next few days.

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NaptownChief · 03-20-2007, 03:07 PM

I read this earlier and it is best summed up by this comment that someone posted:

So, a healthy bear in excellent shape should be terminated because animal 'lovers' do not approve of his alternative lifestyle? Admittedly, these animals are naturally wild and therefore quite a handful in captivity but these critics think he might be 'humiliated', jeez, talk about a clear case of anthropomorphisation.

Why don't they do their own species a favour instead and either grow a brain or euthanase themselves? They're really quite humiliating.

- Rm, Sydney, Australia

Drek · 03-20-2007, 03:10 PM

What the hell?

Abandoned polar bear cubs are raised like this all over the northern hemisphere. Its not in an attempt to domesticate them, real soon Knut here is going to start eating meat, at that point he's no longer people safe. Every Zoo in the world knows that and raises them accordingly.

Retarded animal rights activists. "Domesticating" a polar bear with snuggling? Yeah, sure.

TexanBob · 03-20-2007, 03:12 PM

Imagine if the bear grew up to be gay...

watermock · 03-20-2007, 03:13 PM

I guess this means I have to kill kitty or send it to Africa.

Rohirrim · 03-20-2007, 03:15 PM

He'd make a nice hat.

-Slap- · 03-20-2007, 03:16 PM

He reminds me of Bronco when he was a puppy.

watermock · 03-20-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drek

What the hell?

Abandoned polar bear cubs are raised like this all over the northern hemisphere. Its not in an attempt to domesticate them, real soon Knut here is going to start eating meat, at that point he's no longer people safe. Every Zoo in the world knows that and raises them accordingly.

Retarded animal rights activists. "Domesticating" a polar bear with snuggling? Yeah, sure.

Don't you find it ironic a animal rights group would call for the killing of an endagnered anemal?

Dudeskey · 03-20-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

Don't you find it ironic a animal rights group would call for the killing of an endagnered anemal?

oooh yeah... Yet another reason most animal rights groups should know when to to speak out and when to shut the hell up... leave the zoo alone & let them do their job, they saved an animal's life for god sakes...

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-20-2007, 03:31 PM

Let the cub go free but put the animal rights wackos in the zoo instead.

BKK · 03-20-2007, 03:32 PM

Frank Albrecht needs a little baby seal treatment.

epicSocialism4tw · 03-20-2007, 03:36 PM

I wonder what these wacko's think of the Plains Indians.

NaptownChief · 03-20-2007, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

Don't you find it ironic a animal rights group would call for the killing of an endagnered anemal?

The reality is the exact same group would be screaming bloody murder if they had decided to kill the animal for the exact same reason they are adovcating...Pathetic groups like this are just desparate souls looking for attention and often have zero principles.

It is kind of like the liberal wacko's that support abortion but throw a huge fit over animal rights and trees. I couldn't care less which side a person is on but on the basic concepts and principles I find it impossible for a person to support killing fetus' yet take an extreme stance on the poor treatment of animals and trees. People can make good arguments on either side of those issues but I find it nearly impossible for a functioning brain to be able to be ultra sensitive to animals and tree vegatation but have zero problem with knocking off babies.

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-20-2007, 03:48 PM

Polar bears that never learn how to hunt will die in their own environment. Better to put him in a zoo so one day he can kill a zookeeper and then we can kill him.

epicSocialism4tw · 03-20-2007, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Polar bears that never learn how to hunt will die in their own environment. Better to put him in a zoo so one day he can kill a zookeeper and then we can kill him.

Aww...such a sad story.

So, why dont we just kill him now so that he never has a chance to make it alive anywhere? That would be much more convenient.

Master___Pain · 03-20-2007, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Polar bears that never learn how to hunt will die in their own environment. Better to put him in a zoo so one day he can kill a zookeeper and then we can kill him.

Yeah, 'cause that's an all too common occurrence.

Barry Ramey · 03-20-2007, 03:57 PM

I'm for protecting animals, but these people just always seem to go too far. How is a dead animal better than one being cared for? Idiots.

g00fyfoot · 03-20-2007, 03:57 PM

"There would be more point in giving the animal activists the lethal injection."

Whoah! What an unpredictable response! Must've been up all night composing that one!

The way the article is written, there can only be one response, right? Whoever wrote it (and all the ones I've seen on the subject) are obvioulsy skewed. I wonder what these "activists" real message is, because I doubt it's being represented here. I have a hard time believing that "animal activists" around the world are calling for the death of a baby polar bear. More than likely, the media honed in on a couple of fools with an unlikely opinion, and decided to make a sensational story of it. They are representative of nothing and nobody.

NaptownChief · 03-20-2007, 03:59 PM

We are all going to die someday so why don't we just start knocking everyone off right now and get it over with?

Garcia Bronco · 03-20-2007, 04:00 PM

PETA likes to kill animals(dogs and cats) and dump them behind Asian eating places. They are a blight on the animal world and should be shut down.

Rohirrim · 03-20-2007, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

We are all going to die someday so why don't we just start knocking everyone off right now and get it over with?

Let's start with Chief fans.

Dudeskey · 03-20-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

PETA likes to kill animals(dogs and cats) and dump them behind Asian eating places. They are a blight on the animal world and should be shut down.

PETA is a joke... They need to shut up and let us eat meat...

Garcia Bronco · 03-20-2007, 04:03 PM

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial.cfm

In the early hours of June 15, 2005, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) were arrested in Ahoskie, North Carolina, and charged with 31 felony counts of cruelty to animals. A Grand Jury later indicted each defendant on 21 counts of Animal Cruelty and 3 counts of Obtaining Property By False Pretenses. PETA employees Andrew Cook and Adria Hinkle are expected to face a trial in Hertford County (NC) Superior Court on November 13, 2006. A few days after the arrests, local authorities told Greenville, North Carolina's WNCT-TV News that they had found more than 70 additional dead animals that may be connected to PETA.

Rohirrim · 03-20-2007, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urinal_Cake

PETA is a joke... They need to shut up and let us eat meat...

People Eating Tasty Animals

Garcia Bronco · 03-20-2007, 04:05 PM

03-20-2007, 03:05 PM	#1
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,289	'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby Tiny, fluffy and adorable, Knut the baby polar bear became an animal superstar after he was abandoned by his mother. He rapidly became the symbol of Berlin Zoo, whose staff bottle-fed him and handed out cuddles in between When Knut was born last December his mother ignored him, zoo officials intervened and chose to raise him themselves At three months old, however, the playful 19lb bundle of fur is at the centre of an impassioned debate over whether he should live or die. Animal rights activists argue that he should be given a lethal injection rather than brought up suffering the humiliation of being treated as a domestic pet. Activists argue that it is inappropriate for a predator, known for its fierceness and ability to fend for itself in the wild, to be snuggled "The zoo must kill the bear," said spokesman Frank Albrecht. "Feeding by hand is not species-appropriate but a gross violation of animal protection laws." When Knut was born in December, his mother ignored him and his brother, who died. Zoo officials intervened, choosing to raise the cub themselves. But Albrecht and other activists fret that it is inappropriate for a predator, known for its fierceness and ability to fend for itself in the wild, to be snuggled, bottle-fed and made into a commodity by zookeepers. They argue that current treatment of the cub is inhumane and could cause him future difficulties interacting with fellow polar bears. "They cannot domesticate a wild animal," added Ruediger Schmiedel, head of the Foundation for Bears. The charity cites a similar case of a baby sloth which was put to sleep after being abandoned by its mother last December in the Leipzig city zoo. But Berlin Zoo holds different opinions. Its chief vet Andre Schuele says the activists' criticisms would make him angry if he could take them seriously. "Polar bears live alone in the wild. I see no logical reason why this bear should be killed." Schuele also argued that given the increased rarity of wild polar bears, it makes sense to keep them alive in captivity so that they can be bred. "Polar bears are under threat of extinction, and if we feed the bear with a bottle, it has a good chance of growing up and perhaps becoming attractive as a stud for other zoos," he said. Knut, who recently made the official A-list when he was pictured by celebrity photographer Annie Leibovitz for an environmental protection campaign, is scheduled to make his public debut at the zoo in the next few days. Link Here

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03-20-2007, 03:07 PM	#2
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	I read this earlier and it is best summed up by this comment that someone posted: So, a healthy bear in excellent shape should be terminated because animal 'lovers' do not approve of his alternative lifestyle? Admittedly, these animals are naturally wild and therefore quite a handful in captivity but these critics think he might be 'humiliated', jeez, talk about a clear case of anthropomorphisation. Why don't they do their own species a favour instead and either grow a brain or euthanase themselves? They're really quite humiliating. - Rm, Sydney, Australia

03-20-2007, 03:10 PM	#3
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,359	What the hell? Abandoned polar bear cubs are raised like this all over the northern hemisphere. Its not in an attempt to domesticate them, real soon Knut here is going to start eating meat, at that point he's no longer people safe. Every Zoo in the world knows that and raises them accordingly. Retarded animal rights activists. "Domesticating" a polar bear with snuggling? Yeah, sure.

03-20-2007, 03:12 PM	#4
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	Imagine if the bear grew up to be gay...

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watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I guess this means I have to kill kitty or send it to Africa.

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footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,126 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Let the cub go free but put the animal rights wackos in the zoo instead.

03-20-2007, 03:32 PM	#11
BKK Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 98	Frank Albrecht needs a little baby seal treatment.

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03-20-2007, 03:48 PM	#14
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Polar bears that never learn how to hunt will die in their own environment. Better to put him in a zoo so one day he can kill a zookeeper and then we can kill him.

03-20-2007, 03:57 PM	#17
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	I'm for protecting animals, but these people just always seem to go too far. How is a dead animal better than one being cared for? Idiots.

03-20-2007, 03:57 PM	#18
g00fyfoot Seasoned Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5280' Posts: 357	"There would be more point in giving the animal activists the lethal injection." Whoah! What an unpredictable response! Must've been up all night composing that one! The way the article is written, there can only be one response, right? Whoever wrote it (and all the ones I've seen on the subject) are obvioulsy skewed. I wonder what these "activists" real message is, because I doubt it's being represented here. I have a hard time believing that "animal activists" around the world are calling for the death of a baby polar bear. More than likely, the media honed in on a couple of fools with an unlikely opinion, and decided to make a sensational story of it. They are representative of nothing and nobody.

03-20-2007, 03:59 PM	#19
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	We are all going to die someday so why don't we just start knocking everyone off right now and get it over with?

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Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	PETA likes to kill animals(dogs and cats) and dump them behind Asian eating places. They are a blight on the animal world and should be shut down.

03-20-2007, 04:03 PM	#23
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial.cfm In the early hours of June 15, 2005, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) were arrested in Ahoskie, North Carolina, and charged with 31 felony counts of cruelty to animals. A Grand Jury later indicted each defendant on 21 counts of Animal Cruelty and 3 counts of Obtaining Property By False Pretenses. PETA employees Andrew Cook and Adria Hinkle are expected to face a trial in Hertford County (NC) Superior Court on November 13, 2006. A few days after the arrests, local authorities told Greenville, North Carolina's WNCT-TV News that they had found more than 70 additional dead animals that may be connected to PETA.

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